Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: ANN: ODF 1.2 Candidate OASIS Standard Enters 60-Day Public Review, prerequisite for balloting as OASIS Standard

2011-06-26 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2011-06-25 16:35, Robert Derman a écrit : This could eventually destroy ODF as a viable world standard if at some point some software company or organization comes up with a popular program (example Microsoft) that embeds fonts so that anyone editing the document, viewing it, or printing it

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: ANN: ODF 1.2 Candidate OASIS Standard Enters 60-Day Public Review, prerequisite for balloting as OASIS Standard

2011-06-26 Thread Jesper Lund Stocholm
Hi Robert, 2011/6/25 Robert Derman robert.der...@pressenter.com: This could eventually destroy ODF as a viable world standard if at some point some software company or organization comes up with a popular program (example Microsoft) that embeds fonts so that anyone editing the document,

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: ANN: ODF 1.2 Candidate OASIS Standard Enters 60-Day Public Review, prerequisite for balloting as OASIS Standard

2011-06-26 Thread Robert Derman
Jesper Lund Stocholm wrote: Hi Robert, 2011/6/25 Robert Derman robert.der...@pressenter.com: This could eventually destroy ODF as a viable world standard if at some point some software company or organization comes up with a popular program (example Microsoft) that embeds fonts so that

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: ANN: ODF 1.2 Candidate OASIS Standard Enters 60-Day Public Review, prerequisite for balloting as OASIS Standard

2011-06-26 Thread Jesper Lund Stocholm
Hi Steve, 2011/6/26 Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com: On 27/06/11 6:44 AM, Jesper Lund Stocholm wrote: FWIW, here is a description of how Microsoft Office supports embedding of fonts in documents and the limitations to it. If you want to take a look at how this is achieved in

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: ANN: ODF 1.2 Candidate OASIS Standard Enters 60-Day Public Review, prerequisite for balloting as OASIS Standard

2011-06-26 Thread Steve Edmonds
On 27/06/11 7:04 AM, Robert Derman wrote: Jesper Lund Stocholm wrote: Hi Robert, 2011/6/25 Robert Derman robert.der...@pressenter.com: This could eventually destroy ODF as a viable world standard if at some point some software company or organization comes up with a popular program

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: ANN: ODF 1.2 Candidate OASIS Standard Enters 60-Day Public Review, prerequisite for balloting as OASIS Standard

2011-06-25 Thread Manfred Usselmann
On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 21:21:34 +0200 Goran Rakic gra...@devbase.net wrote: У пет, 24. 06 2011. у 14:03 -0500, Robert Derman пише: As long as ODF has this inherent limitation it WILL NEVER SUCCEED as a universal document exchange format!!! Different formats exists with different goals.

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: ANN: ODF 1.2 Candidate OASIS Standard Enters 60-Day Public Review, prerequisite for balloting as OASIS Standard

2011-06-25 Thread Robert Derman
Marc Paré wrote: Le 2011-06-24 18:01, Nuno J. Silva a écrit : On 2011-06-24, Marc Paré wrote: Le 2011-06-24 13:13, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit : Hello, Le Fri, 24 Jun 2011 07:48:54 -0700 (PDT), plinopedl...@gmail.com a écrit : I really hope that revision 1.2 allows for font embedding in

[tdf-discuss] Re: ANN: ODF 1.2 Candidate OASIS Standard Enters 60-Day Public Review, prerequisite for balloting as OASIS Standard

2011-06-24 Thread plino
I really hope that revision 1.2 allows for font embedding in ODF documents. IMO that is a (the?) major obstacle for sharing documents with other users. -- View this message in context:

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: ANN: ODF 1.2 Candidate OASIS Standard Enters 60-Day Public Review, prerequisite for balloting as OASIS Standard

2011-06-24 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello, Le Fri, 24 Jun 2011 07:48:54 -0700 (PDT), plino pedl...@gmail.com a écrit : I really hope that revision 1.2 allows for font embedding in ODF documents. IMO that is a (the?) major obstacle for sharing documents with other users. So, let me state and restate this : ODF will not

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: ANN: ODF 1.2 Candidate OASIS Standard Enters 60-Day Public Review, prerequisite for balloting as OASIS Standard

2011-06-24 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2011-06-24 10:48, plino a écrit : I really hope that revision 1.2 allows for font embedding in ODF documents. IMO that is a (the?) major obstacle for sharing documents with other users. -- View this message in context:

[tdf-discuss] Re: ANN: ODF 1.2 Candidate OASIS Standard Enters 60-Day Public Review, prerequisite for balloting as OASIS Standard

2011-06-24 Thread plino
Charles-H. Schulz wrote: So, let me state and restate this : ODF will not embed fonts in the 1.2, 1.3, nor in the future, because the format is not meant to focus on faithful layout rendering. Instead, PDF is meant that. ODF focuses on office document exchanges. If that is the OASIS

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: ANN: ODF 1.2 Candidate OASIS Standard Enters 60-Day Public Review, prerequisite for balloting as OASIS Standard

2011-06-24 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Le Fri, 24 Jun 2011 11:11:41 -0400, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com a écrit : Le 2011-06-24 10:48, plino a écrit : I really hope that revision 1.2 allows for font embedding in ODF documents. IMO that is a (the?) major obstacle for sharing documents with other users. -- View this

[tdf-discuss] Re: ANN: ODF 1.2 Candidate OASIS Standard Enters 60-Day Public Review, prerequisite for balloting as OASIS Standard

2011-06-24 Thread plino
Charles-H. Schulz wrote: We're not talking about the same use cases. Embedding fonts create a whole lot of different problems in terms of interoperability. But you're welcome to join the ODF TC, even as an individual. I believe that there are many interoperability problems. But if ODF

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: ANN: ODF 1.2 Candidate OASIS Standard Enters 60-Day Public Review, prerequisite for balloting as OASIS Standard

2011-06-24 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 6/24/11 5:11 PM, Marc Paré wrote: I think some of our TDF/SC members will be able to answer questions re: this as they are on the OASIS board. I thought Italo was that person. No, is Charles. I am not involved in OASIS. -- Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com mobile +39.348.5653829 VoIP

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: ANN: ODF 1.2 Candidate OASIS Standard Enters 60-Day Public Review, prerequisite for balloting as OASIS Standard

2011-06-24 Thread Robert Derman
plino wrote: Charles-H. Schulz wrote: So, let me state and restate this : ODF will not embed fonts in the 1.2, 1.3, nor in the future, because the format is not meant to focus on faithful layout rendering. Instead, PDF is meant that. ODF focuses on office document exchanges. As long as

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: ANN: ODF 1.2 Candidate OASIS Standard Enters 60-Day Public Review, prerequisite for balloting as OASIS Standard

2011-06-24 Thread Goran Rakic
У пет, 24. 06 2011. у 14:03 -0500, Robert Derman пише: As long as ODF has this inherent limitation it WILL NEVER SUCCEED as a universal document exchange format!!! Different formats exists with different goals. But there is this great thing called hybrid PDF document - it is a PDF with ODF

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: ANN: ODF 1.2 Candidate OASIS Standard Enters 60-Day Public Review, prerequisite for balloting as OASIS Standard

2011-06-24 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2011-06-24 13:13, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit : Hello, Le Fri, 24 Jun 2011 07:48:54 -0700 (PDT), plinopedl...@gmail.com a écrit : I really hope that revision 1.2 allows for font embedding in ODF documents. IMO that is a (the?) major obstacle for sharing documents with other users. So,

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: ANN: ODF 1.2 Candidate OASIS Standard Enters 60-Day Public Review, prerequisite for balloting as OASIS Standard

2011-06-24 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2011-06-24 13:13, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit : Hello, Le Fri, 24 Jun 2011 07:48:54 -0700 (PDT), plinopedl...@gmail.com a écrit : I really hope that revision 1.2 allows for font embedding in ODF documents. IMO that is a (the?) major obstacle for sharing documents with other users. So,

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: ANN: ODF 1.2 Candidate OASIS Standard Enters 60-Day Public Review, prerequisite for balloting as OASIS Standard

2011-06-24 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2011-06-24 18:01, Nuno J. Silva a écrit : On 2011-06-24, Marc Paré wrote: Le 2011-06-24 13:13, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit : Hello, Le Fri, 24 Jun 2011 07:48:54 -0700 (PDT), plinopedl...@gmail.com a écrit : I really hope that revision 1.2 allows for font embedding in ODF documents. IMO