[tdf-discuss] Re: Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-27 Thread Marc Paré
Thanks for the clarifications. Cheers Marc -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-26 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 05:06:51AM -0500, Marc Par� wrote: > Le 2010-11-26 01:05, Robert Holtzman a écrit : ..snip. > > > >Could you point out where I said that noobs should posses the > >information *prior* to their first post? Obviously, the instruction > >would be

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-26 Thread jonathon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/26/2010 01:21 AM, Rictec wrote: > how about language? can i ask a good question on this language? For somebody who isn't confident about their ability to correctly express themselves in English, I'd rather see their question in their native la

[tdf-discuss] Re: Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-26 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-11-26 01:05, Robert Holtzman a écrit : On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 09:47:05PM -0500, Marc Paré wrote: Le 2010-11-25 18:54, Robert Holtzman a écrit : One of the best ways to help them out would be to (gently, if that makes you feel better) instruct them that it is customary to do a modicum

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-25 Thread Michael Wheatland
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > I am not trying to hijack this list, but wouldn't it be better to have a > list for each language that we support, if we have users of particular > languages they can use that list and not have to struggle to use English to > get help? W

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-25 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
I am not trying to hijack this list, but wouldn't it be better to have a list for each language that we support, if we have users of particular languages they can use that list and not have to struggle to use English to get help? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoun

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-25 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 05:50:39PM -0700, Craig A. Eddy wrote: > Robert, > > OK, I'll disagree with you. But only to a degree. I've worked the > equivalent of an unpaid help desk on IRC (Ubuntu-Arizona LoCo). .snip. > > The system works, but, it DOES require patie

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-25 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 09:47:05PM -0500, Marc Paré wrote: > Le 2010-11-25 18:54, Robert Holtzman a écrit : > > > > >One of the best ways to help them out would be to (gently, if that makes > >you feel better) instruct them that it is customary to do a modicum of > >research and try what's found b

[tdf-discuss] Re: Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-25 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-11-25 18:54, Robert Holtzman a écrit : One of the best ways to help them out would be to (gently, if that makes you feel better) instruct them that it is customary to do a modicum of research and try what's found before posting a question to a list. Also, the post should include the sta

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-25 Thread Craig A. Eddy
Rictec, Modicum - a small amount Standard Information - In the way that Robert Holtzman used the term, he means certain facts about your computer and operating system, and the software you're running at the time (for example, Linux operating system, LibreOffice 3.3 Beta, Writer. These are only e

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-25 Thread Rictec
hi how about language? can i ask a good question on this language? even if i cant read most of the words you people write? do i have to learn English to ask a question? or if i do i get better help? there will be all kinds of users asking questions.the more popular it is more users will ask questi

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-25 Thread Craig A. Eddy
Robert, OK, I'll disagree with you. But only to a degree. I've worked the equivalent of an unpaid help desk on IRC (Ubuntu-Arizona LoCo). We worked with people that not only weren't necessarily running Ubuntu, but many times were so far out of the area that their time zone was in Siberia, etc.

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-25 Thread Carl Symons
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: > On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 04:44:42PM -0500, Marc Par� wrote: >> Le 2010-11-24 16:20, Robert Holtzman a écrit : >> >> The best and most practical way is to help them out. The bottom line >> is that we would like every type of individuals to us

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-25 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 04:44:42PM -0500, Marc Par� wrote: > Le 2010-11-24 16:20, Robert Holtzman a écrit : > > The best and most practical way is to help them out. The bottom line > is that we would like every type of individuals to use our office > suite and to be happy with it. I have yet to be

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-25 Thread Valter Mura
In data giovedì 25 novembre 2010 00:56:37, Robert Derman ha scritto: > ..snip. > > Whether it's user friendly or not depends on the user. If he/she/it is > open to learning a *few* new things, it is extremely user friendly. > There is, however, a segment

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-24 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-) I think the issue of difficulty of installing LibO on Linux is not going to last long... I'm sure that as soon as a stable release of LibO is out then Linux distribs are going to add it to their repos, and their software installation tools (such as Ubuntu's Software Center). All the talk

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-24 Thread Craig A. Eddy
On 11/24/2010 04:56 PM, Robert Derman wrote: >..snip. > I haven't followed this particular thread very closely, but nevertheless > one thing seems to be appearant, and that is why Linux only has a few > percent of the PC OS market and Windows has the vast majority of

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-24 Thread Robert Derman
..snip. Whether it's user friendly or not depends on the user. If he/she/it is open to learning a *few* new things, it is extremely user friendly. There is, however, a segment of the population that actively resists learning *anything*. That's why: the more user-frie

[tdf-discuss] Re: Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-24 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-11-24 16:20, Robert Holtzman a écrit : On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 12:30:38PM +0100, Valter Mura wrote: In data lunedì 22 novembre 2010 22:28:54, Robert Holtzman ha scritto: On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 06:50:36PM +0100, Rene Engelhard wrote: On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 03:52:41PM +, Lee Hyde

[tdf-discuss] Re: Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-22 Thread NoOp
On 11/22/2010 08:09 PM, Craig A. Eddy wrote: > > > On 11/22/2010 06:37 PM, NoOp wrote: ... > ...And NoOp, again, I thank you for taking the time and > effort to try to make it easier for others to install the .debs on > Debian and Debian derivatives (even Ubuntu :-) ). > Welcome :-) You may fi

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-22 Thread Craig A. Eddy
On 11/22/2010 06:37 PM, NoOp wrote: > On 11/22/2010 06:43 AM, Craig A. Eddy wrote: > ... >> René >> >> It isn't so much that I administer a Debian release as that I USE a >> Debian release and do what I can. What I do is what I have managed to >> learn to do over time, but without any formal tr

[tdf-discuss] Re: Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-22 Thread NoOp
On 11/22/2010 04:33 AM, Rene Engelhard wrote: > On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 08:04:29AM -0700, Craig A. Eddy wrote: >> listed in the README_en-US file. I'm not familiar with dpgk, though I > > Then get. You administer a Debian-based system without knowing dpkg? Oh my. > > (Besides that, http://packag

[tdf-discuss] Re: Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-22 Thread NoOp
On 11/22/2010 06:43 AM, Craig A. Eddy wrote: ... > René > > It isn't so much that I administer a Debian release as that I USE a > Debian release and do what I can. What I do is what I have managed to > learn to do over time, but without any formal training in UNIX, Linux, > administration, coding