Hi,
Harold Fuchs wrote on 2010-10-21 09.26:
I think you'll find that *all* messages coming from Gmane have
"X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/"; in the headers. See
http://gmane.org/conv.php for details.
I did a quick check, but mlmmj doesn't allow filtering for mails like
this. We surel
On 2010-10-21 1:23 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
>> Can the Reply-to header not be fixed (by the list manager software or by
>> an associated script) to include the OP if that OP is not subscribed?
>
> if someone submits a patch for mlmmj, our mailing lists software, then
> yes. Otherwise no.
Ok
On 2010-10-21 1:22 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
> Charles Marcus wrote on 2010-10-20 19.44:
>> Bummer... my point is that non-subbed posters should simply be sent a
>> REJECT message with instructions on how to subscribe - or better, a nice
>> instructive web page with detailed instructions on th
- Original Message -
From: "Florian Effenberger"
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To:
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 6:22 AM
Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Send Messages via Gmane?
Hi,
Charles Marcus wrote on 2010-10-20 19.44:
Bummer... my point is that
On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 14:17:47 -0400, Marc Paré wrote:
> If there is so much time wasted dealing with non-subscribers, then we
> need to re-evaluate our lists and take a close look at what we are doing
> wrong. Our LibO suite is so popular that so many new users call on us
> for help. Then we sho
"Florian Effenberger" wrote in message
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Hi,
Charles Marcus wrote on 2010-10-20 19.44:
Bummer... my point is that non-subbed posters should simply be sent a
REJECT message with instructions on how to subscribe - or better, a nice
instructive web
"Florian Effenberger" wrote in message
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Hi,
Larry Gusaas wrote on 2010-10-19 21.09:
The following is from http://gmane.org/post-details.php . Note "the MAIL
FROM envelope has to be someth...@gmane.org. It is currently the address
that Gmane is
On 2010/10/20 11:33 PM Florian Effenberger wrote:
Hi,
Larry Gusaas wrote on 2010-10-19 21.09:
The following is from http://gmane.org/post-details.php . Note "the MAIL
FROM envelope has to be someth...@gmane.org. It is currently the address
that Gmane is subscribed to".
I still don't get it
Hi,
Larry Gusaas wrote on 2010-10-19 21.09:
The following is from http://gmane.org/post-details.php . Note "the MAIL
FROM envelope has to be someth...@gmane.org. It is currently the address
that Gmane is subscribed to".
I still don't get it - if I now whitelist *...@gmane.org for sending, thi
Hi,
Harold Fuchs wrote on 2010-10-21 01.14:
Can the Reply-to header not be fixed (by the list manager software or by
an associated script) to include the OP if that OP is not subscribed?
if someone submits a patch for mlmmj, our mailing lists software, then
yes. Otherwise no.
FLorian
--
Fl
Hi,
Charles Marcus wrote on 2010-10-20 19.44:
Bummer... my point is that non-subbed posters should simply be sent a
REJECT message with instructions on how to subscribe - or better, a nice
instructive web page with detailed instructions on the lists, and a
subscribe option directly on the web pa
Larry Gusaas wrote:
On 2010/10/20 11:40 AM Charles Marcus wrote:
On 2010-10-20 12:32 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote:
Gmane has most of the Document Foundations lists (except developer and
announce) set as public. If you subscribe to this list through gmane the
message will be sent but will not get po
On 2010-10-20 2:10 PM, Marc Paré wrote:
> Actually, the way I see it, and I am also subscribed to the OOo list,
> the complaints are that the subscribed users could not answer back to
> the non-subscribed users. This is the resounding complaint on the list.
Yes, I know - and it is *caused* by the
On 2010-10-20 3:14 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote:
> My understanding is that Gmane version of the list is recognized as
> subscribed to this list. Only people that are subscribed to Gmane
> version of list can post through it.
>
> Unsubscribed posters are still not allowed to post.
Hmmm... ok, maybe as
On 2010/10/20 12:56 PM Charles Marcus wrote:
On 2010-10-20 2:41 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote:
Or allow posts to this list from people who have subscribe through Gmane
to be posted to the list without having to double subscribe.
My understanding is that in order for posts from gmane to be allowed
fr
On 2010-10-20 2:41 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote:
>
> Or allow posts to this list from people who have subscribe through Gmane
> to be posted to the list without having to double subscribe.
My understanding is that in order for posts from gmane to be allowed
from users who are not themselves subscribers
Le 2010-10-20 14:41, Larry Gusaas a écrit :
On 2010/10/20 11:40 AM Charles Marcus wrote:
On 2010-10-20 12:32 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote:
Gmane has most of the Document Foundations lists (except developer and
announce) set as public. If you subscribe to this list through gmane the
message will be s
On 2010/10/20 11:40 AM Charles Marcus wrote:
On 2010-10-20 12:32 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote:
Gmane has most of the Document Foundations lists (except developer and
announce) set as public. If you subscribe to this list through gmane the
message will be sent but will not get posted to the list. No
Le 2010-10-20 13:40, Charles Marcus a écrit :
On 2010-10-20 12:32 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote:
Gmane has most of the Document Foundations lists (except developer and
announce) set as public. If you subscribe to this list through gmane the
message will be sent but will not get posted to the list. No b
Le 2010-10-20 13:55, Charles Marcus a écrit :
The bottom line is, allowing non-subscribers to post (moderated or not)
just creates never-ending confusion - as evidence in support, see the
never-ending comments about it on the OOo lists where someone is
*constantly* being told that their respons
On 2010-10-20 1:51 PM, Harold Fuchs wrote:
> Charles Marcus wrote:
>> I'm sorry, but I don't have any sympathy with someone who wants free
>> help, but isn't willing to do the bare minimum of subscribing to an
>> email list in order to get it.
> Errm. It's not just the subscribing. In addition tha
On 2010-10-20 1:41 PM, Marc Paré wrote:
> Le 2010-10-20 10:49, Charles Marcus a écrit :
>> I'm sorry, but I don't have any sympathy with someone who wants free
>> help, but isn't willing to do the bare minimum of subscribing to an
>> email list in order to get it.
> Well, the free help is not free
Charles Marcus wrote:
I'm sorry, but I don't have any sympathy with someone who wants free
help, but isn't willing to do the bare minimum of subscribing to an
email list in order to get it.
Errm. It's not just the subscribing. In addition that poor user who only
wants one question answere
On 2010-10-20 12:40 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
> Charles Marcus wrote on 2010-10-20 14.20:
>>> ***I don't know if not allowing non-subscribers to post to TDF
>>> lists was intentional or not*** perhaps someone involved in their
>>> set-up would comment.
>> If this is true, please don't change
Le 2010-10-20 10:49, Charles Marcus a écrit :
On 2010-10-20 10:26 AM, Marc Paré wrote:
Le 2010-10-20 08:20, Charles Marcus a écrit :
On 2010-10-20 5:03 AM, Harold Fuchs wrote:
***I don't know if not allowing non-subscribers to post to TDF lists was
intentional or not*** perhaps someone involve
On 2010-10-20 12:32 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote:
> Gmane has most of the Document Foundations lists (except developer and
> announce) set as public. If you subscribe to this list through gmane the
> message will be sent but will not get posted to the list. No bounce
> message will be sent to the poster.
Hi,
Charles Marcus wrote on 2010-10-20 14.20:
***I don't know if not allowing non-subscribers to post to TDF lists was
> intentional or not*** perhaps someone involved in their set-up would
> comment.
If this is true, please don't change it. Allowing post was one of the
biggest annoyances on
On 2010/10/20 3:03 AM Harold Fuchs wrote:
The following is verbatim from the Gmane page on Posting (go to www.gmane.com and click the
link "Posting" on the left hand side):
begin quote ===
Read-only groups
Some groups are read-only. These are typically groups for announcements, publicati
On 2010-10-20 10:26 AM, Marc Paré wrote:
> Le 2010-10-20 08:20, Charles Marcus a écrit :
>> On 2010-10-20 5:03 AM, Harold Fuchs wrote:
>>> ***I don't know if not allowing non-subscribers to post to TDF lists was
>>> intentional or not*** perhaps someone involved in their set-up would
>>> comment.
Le 2010-10-20 08:20, Charles Marcus a écrit :
On 2010-10-20 5:03 AM, Harold Fuchs wrote:
***I don't know if not allowing non-subscribers to post to TDF lists was
intentional or not*** perhaps someone involved in their set-up would
comment.
If this is true, please don't change it. Allowing post
On 2010-10-20 5:03 AM, Harold Fuchs wrote:
> ***I don't know if not allowing non-subscribers to post to TDF lists was
> intentional or not*** perhaps someone involved in their set-up would
> comment.
If this is true, please don't change it. Allowing post was one of the
biggest annoyances on the OO
"Harold Fuchs" wrote in message
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On 2010/10/19 4:27 PM Jon Hamkins wrote:
On 10/19/2010 10:55 AM, Larry Gusaas wrote:
Wrong. The purpose of gmane is to receive and write messages wit
"Larry Gusaas" wrote in message
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On 2010/10/19 4:27 PM Jon Hamkins wrote:
On 10/19/2010 10:55 AM, Larry Gusaas wrote:
Wrong. The purpose of gmane is to receive and write messages with a
newsreader rather than an email client.
Oh, please.
1. This purpos
On 2010/10/19 4:27 PM Jon Hamkins wrote:
On 10/19/2010 10:55 AM, Larry Gusaas wrote:
Wrong. The purpose of gmane is to receive and write messages with a
newsreader rather than an email client.
Oh, please.
1. This purpose is *also* not defeated by having to be subscribed to the
mailing list.
On 10/19/2010 10:55 AM, Larry Gusaas wrote:
On 2010/10/19 10:06 AM Jon Hamkins wrote:
On 10/19/2010 12:52 AM, Harold Fuchs wrote:
Currently, to use Gmane you need to be subscribed to both it
*and* the TDF lists which completely defeats the purpose of the
Gmane interface.
I agree, having to
On 2010/10/19 2:51 PM Charles Marcus wrote:
So... according to this, Harold and/or anyone else using gmane should
already be able to post? Has anyone tested it?
Only if you are subscribed to the mailing list as well. Gmane says posting is allowed but they
only go through if you are also subs
On 2010-10-19 4:44 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote:
> The following is from http://gmane.org/post.php:
>
>*Posting Messages*
>Here's how it works.
>
> 1. The first time you post something to a newsgroup, Gmane spools
> the message and sends
> you an email asking you to respond.
>
On 2010/10/19 2:33 PM Charles Marcus wrote:
On 2010-10-19 2:43 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
if even the GMANE admins cannot tell me exactly how to make it work that
their verified accounts can send to us without subscription, I honestly
don't care a lot.
I seem to recall once when I was exp
On 2010-10-19 2:43 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
> if even the GMANE admins cannot tell me exactly how to make it work that
> their verified accounts can send to us without subscription, I honestly
> don't care a lot.
I seem to recall once when I was experimenting with gmane a long time
ago that
On 2010/10/19 12:43 PM Florian Effenberger wrote:
Hi,
Larry Gusaas wrote on 2010-10-19 19.55:
Totally irrelevant statement. Learn how gmane works. Using gname has
nothing to do with spam.
if even the GMANE admins cannot tell me exactly how to make it work that their verified
accounts can s
Hi,
Larry Gusaas wrote on 2010-10-19 19.55:
Totally irrelevant statement. Learn how gmane works. Using gname has
nothing to do with spam.
if even the GMANE admins cannot tell me exactly how to make it work that
their verified accounts can send to us without subscription, I honestly
don't car
On 2010/10/19 10:06 AM Jon Hamkins wrote:
On 10/19/2010 12:52 AM, Harold Fuchs wrote:
Currently,
to use Gmane you need to be subscribed to both it *and* the TDF lists which
completely defeats the purpose of the Gmane interface.
I agree, having to sign up in two places is inconvenient, and i
On 19 October 2010 13:37, Charles Marcus wrote:
> On 2010-10-19 3:52 AM, Harold Fuchs wrote:
> > When will it be possible to send messages to the TDF mail lists via
> > Gmane *without* having to be subscribed to the mail lists
> > themselves? Currently, to use Gmane you need to be subscribed to b
Hi,
Charles Marcus wrote on 2010-10-19 14.37:
Was it you that complained about this before?
All you have to do is subscribe to the NOMAIL version of the list, this
way you are a member and can post, but do not get emails from the list -
so it does NOT defeat the purpose.
But... yes, absolutely
On 10/19/2010 12:52 AM, Harold Fuchs wrote:
Currently,
to use Gmane you need to be subscribed to both it *and* the TDF lists which
completely defeats the purpose of the Gmane interface.
I agree, having to sign up in two places is inconvenient, and it
shouldn't be that way, but it doesn't defe
On 2010-10-19 3:52 AM, Harold Fuchs wrote:
> When will it be possible to send messages to the TDF mail lists via
> Gmane *without* having to be subscribed to the mail lists
> themselves? Currently, to use Gmane you need to be subscribed to both
> it *and* the TDF lists which completely defeats the
Hi,
Harold Fuchs wrote on 2010-10-19 09.52:
When will it be possible to send messages to the TDF mail lists via Gmane
*without* having to be subscribed to the mail lists themselves? Currently,
to use Gmane you need to be subscribed to both it*and* the TDF lists which
completely defeats the pur
Hi Harold,
Yes, I noticed that too, which is a right royal PITA.
Alex
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When will it be possible to send messages to the TDF mail lists via Gmane
*without* having to be subscribed to the mail lists themselves? Currently,
to use Gmane you need to be subscribed to both it *and* the TDF lists which
completely defeats the purpose of the Gmane interface.
NB Gmane already i
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