Re: [IxDA Discuss] Arial vs Vernada?

2008-01-31 Thread Jim Drew
On Jan 14, 2008, at 11:38 PM, Andrei Herasimchuk wrote: On Jan 14, 2008, at 9:44 PM, Jim Drew wrote: But if I had seen even one hint of that technology showing its face into the mainstream in the past nearly two decades that I've dealt with DTP apps, I would consider amending my habits now.

[IxDA Discuss] More Design Thinking Strategic Design

2008-01-31 Thread W Evans
*Another Blog Posting on Design Thinking Management from Fast Company. * Is the Design Revolution Here? Can Designers get to the top of a publicly traded company? In the past months I've read several articles and blogs about the possibility that Jonathan Ive, SVP of Industrial Design at Apple,

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Slanty Design

2008-01-31 Thread Lucy Buykx
Thank you Gloria for solving the mystery of red buttons on a water cooler. I have never figured out how to get hot water from them :D . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=25282

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Using eye tracking to determine whether person needs more information.

2008-01-31 Thread Oleg Krupnov
Sorry for a bit of off-topic, but I have always been curious how such systems handle the fact that different people have different patterns of eye movement. Namely, it is known that eyes with imperfect sight (such as myopic eyes) do not perform short and sharp-cut movements freely and easily like

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Myers Briggs, DISC, Personality of UX Folk

2008-01-31 Thread Murli Nagasundaram
Great examples there, Chauncey. My introduction to social psychology in the context of information technology occurred a couple of decades ago through the watershed article by Lee Sproull and Sara Kiesler, Reducing social context cues: electronic mail in organizational communicationn. It was the

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Myers Briggs, DISC, Personality of UX Folk

2008-01-31 Thread Murli Nagasundaram
Just wanted to add the following as required (hilarious) education for anyone developing social apps: http://www.politicsforum.org/images/flame_warriors/ or http://www.flamewarriors.com/ Mike Reed, the creator, is unquestionably a genius. -- Murli

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Myers Briggs, DISC, Personality of UX Folk

2008-01-31 Thread Chauncey Wilson
Hello Murli, Your email brought back some interesting memories. In the 1980s, I did some usability testing of the Coordinator at DEC and it was viewed as too controlling. The group I worked with adapted the concept to be more like a Supportinator where commitments were tracked, but in a less

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Continuous Scroll

2008-01-31 Thread Patricia Garcia
My first reaction when I first heard of this method, oh, maybe a week ago was I didn't like it - in fact, I would go so far to say, I hated it. Than I saw this post and checked out the link and again, I was thinking how frustrating it was. But than Meredith mentions Google Reader uses this

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Bad Usability Calendar 2008

2008-01-31 Thread Nick Iozzo
I think we would need to go beyond just a before/after bad to good example. I think we would also need to introduce the concept of context and how it is used. What I think would be an interesting exercise would be to find a bad design and show what a good design would look like under different

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Bad Usability Calendar 2008

2008-01-31 Thread Chauncey Wilson
I like your discussion and it is an important one -- context can affect perceptions of usability. A simple example would be a wizard user interface where a person is stepped through doing their national taxes; you don't mind going through 65 steps since you can't know all the changes and you don't

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Continuous Scroll

2008-01-31 Thread Murli Nagasundaram
One of the things not mentioned in this discussion is whether such an implementation (infinite scroll) is appropriate for all kinds of information. There is tool/technology/feature, on the one hand, and there is the content on the other. While there are probably people who read entire novels

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Continuous Scroll

2008-01-31 Thread Jeff Seager
Patricia said: I think it's one of those situations that if you bring it to someone's attention, they may decide not to like it, but if you don't say anything, it probably won't interfere with user experience much. I'm not so sure about that. It's one of those features that adds nothing

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Myers Briggs, DISC, Personality of UX Folk

2008-01-31 Thread Murli Nagasundaram
Chauncey, wow, I didn't realize there would be people on this list who might even remember Coordinator, leave alone having tested it! I bow before thee! Yes, I recall that the consensus was that it was 'Fascistware'. How did Supportinator go, btw -- was it accepted, used? By making one's

[IxDA Discuss] Social app popularity begins to decline

2008-01-31 Thread Murli Nagasundaram
Social apps are far more complex than single-user apps. I wonder to what extent a lack of social psych research input into the design of these apps -- the most popular ones having been designed by college undergrads -- is causing their popularity to plateau? To me, this suggests a discontinuity

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Social app popularity begins to decline

2008-01-31 Thread W Evans
I agree with you to the extent that most (All?) social networking sites are designed without the aid/help/input from social psychologists.. I only got interested in the social psych/cog psych of SNAs after I started designing an SNA. But first a comment - I know of only one SNA that was designed

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Social app popularity begins to decline

2008-01-31 Thread Jeff Axup
I really like this quote - people are, just, well, *bored* of social networks. As if humanity will *ever* be bored of social networks, considering that we have been happily using them for thousands of years. It certainly wouldn't be surprising that there would be an upper bound on how much

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Using eye tracking to determine whether person needs more information.

2008-01-31 Thread Joakim Isaksson
Hi Oleg and Peter, Oleg, an eye tracker can only determine the physical orientation of the eye which means that for someone with a condition where they use their peripheral vision and don't move their eyes much, eye tracking would be fairly useless. Peter, I am not familiar with any work that

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Continuous Scroll

2008-01-31 Thread Dan Harrelson
Another good real-world example of this pattern is the Microsoft Live image search. http://search.live.com/images/results.aspx?q=ixda ...Dan *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Social app popularity begins to decline

2008-01-31 Thread Christine Boese
I dunno. It appears to me that the biggest sector for manufactured outrage over social media numbers going up or down comes from VC or others (tech media) with such a vested interest in people slathering all over something with mass media-scale obsession numbers that they appear to lose all

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Social app popularity begins to decline

2008-01-31 Thread Todd Roberts
I wonder about the extent to which the major social network sites realize they are in the entertainment business. As such, their stickiness is based on novelty, and has an inherent ceiling effect since there is only so much time to devote to entertainment. As the novelty wears off, and there is no

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Differnce between user interface and interaction design?

2008-01-31 Thread Pankaj Chawla
On 1/30/08, Andrei Herasimchuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I guess the question is: Pankaj, do you also agree that aesthetics are a fundamental requirement of practicing IxD? No I dont agree aesthetics is a fundamental requirement for IxD. But to me Interaction design is all about interface

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Social app popularity begins to decline

2008-01-31 Thread W Evans
Another anecdote (note- I no longer have stock in Gather) - Gather takes it's advertising revenue and revenue from allowing companies to set up groups around their products - and turns around and pays people for their contributions to the SN - you earn points by connecting, publishing, and

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Continuous Scroll

2008-01-31 Thread Robert Hoekman, Jr.
Another good real-world example of this pattern is the Microsoft Live image search. http://search.live.com/images/results.aspx?q=ixda This is one of the pages used during the testing I witnessed. Aside from the problems I mentioned in my previous reply, participants also had a very difficult

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Social app popularity begins to decline

2008-01-31 Thread W Evans
Christine's comment is prescient given the blog posting by Seth Godin: http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2008/01/tribal-manageme.html Tribe Management Brand management is so 1999. Brand management was top down, internally focused, political and money based. It involved an MBA managing

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Social app popularity begins to decline

2008-01-31 Thread W Evans
Merli - Wouldn't you agree that from a pure social psychology perspective - at least theoretically - pleasing or not - SNAs do allow for three key group/social dynamic needs, Stalking, imitation, and gossip - a recent book actually has come out talking about the huge importance of gossip in

[IxDA Discuss] Looking for Usability Recruiting Firms in Western Europe

2008-01-31 Thread Lori Baker
We are working on a project that plans to start testing in Germany, France, Spain, Austria and Belgium specifically and I was hoping to get some good recommendations on usability recruiting firms in those countries. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thank you! Lori

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Good Rant on lack of Good GUI Design Software

2008-01-31 Thread Narciso Jaramillo
Hi Grady, That's actually the point of Thermo J Currently, you have to drop to code to build behavior in Flex. The idea of Thermo is to make it so you can prototype and build interactions without having to write code (but the code is there behind it, so a developer can take it and turn it into

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Wii Would Like to Play... Minority Report

2008-01-31 Thread Dennis Morrow
Our UX RD team has been playing around with his Low-Cost Multi-point Interactive Whiteboards Using the Wiimote solution for about a month now. Very fun to play with. We are trying to mash his technology with Denim Prototyping Tool (http://dub.washington.edu/projects/denim/) and remote desktop

[IxDA Discuss] Interface Design Community on Ning

2008-01-31 Thread Jeff Howard
Since Andrei had asked about other communities for interface design I thought I'd point to a new group over on Ning. Still very much in its early stages but it looks like it's a synthesis of a few different points of view: user interface design, HCI, usability and information architecture.

Re: [IxDA Discuss] [Iai-Members] navigation structures and mouseover vs click triggers

2008-01-31 Thread Kim Bieler
Marlene, I'm sorry I don't have any research to support these comments, but on a gut instinct level, I don't think clicking in the top navigation to activate the drop-down menus is good usability. Especially if sometimes when you click, you get taken to another page. I assume that on the

[IxDA Discuss] Testing for No Flash situation

2008-01-31 Thread Marty DeAngelo
I'm doing some reviews of a site and I need to be able to test what happens if someone doesn't have Flash Player, has an older version or has it disabled (for whatever reason). I would love to be able to get some SnagIt's of the screens I see, but I need to find a reliable way of simulating the

Re: [IxDA Discuss] IxD translation ?

2008-01-31 Thread pedro
Perfect Luís! our community in Lisbon arrived into a consensus, we will maintain the original English version name. - this from professional to professional, I think that for each usage the sensitivity of the speaker will determine if immediate translation it's needed. In fact the English words

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Social app popularity begins to decline

2008-01-31 Thread Jeff Seager
Jeff Axup said (with what I perceived as a touch of irony, and I think not too seriously): I really like this quote - 'people are, just, well, bored of social networks.' As if humanity will ever be bored of social networks, considering that we have been happily using them for thousands of years.

[IxDA Discuss] Job: Jr. to Mid-Level Interaction Designer (NY)

2008-01-31 Thread Jason Wei Lee
Contact me off list if you are interested. JUNIOR TO MID-LEVEL INTERACTION DESIGNER Responsibilities include, but are not limited to: * Work with clients to understand their business models and goals and help define strategy, content, and features for the design of their web site. * Analyze,

[IxDA Discuss] JOB: Senior Product Manager, New York, NY, TheLadders.com, Full Time

2008-01-31 Thread Lindsay Slader
Senior Product Manager As a Senior Product Manager, you will drive cross-functional teams to translate business requirements and customer needs into a usable and effective consumer experience. The Senior Product Manager will be responsible for defining product features and functionality while

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Testing for No Flash situation

2008-01-31 Thread Todd Roberts
http://www.browsercam.com I've not used it but it looks like it may do what you need it to do, and has a free trial for at least some of the functionality. On Jan 31, 2008 12:39 PM, Marty DeAngelo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm doing some reviews of a site and I need to be able to test what

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Wii Would Like to Play... Minority Report

2008-01-31 Thread Jeff Seager
Dennis said: We are trying to mash his technology with Denim Prototyping Tool ... I'm glad to see someone interested in Denim. I've been keeping an eye on its development for a while, and I'll look forward to seeing what you come up with. *Good luck!* . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Testing for No Flash situation

2008-01-31 Thread Mike Scarpiello
Here's another one: http://www.flashswitch.com/ On Jan 31, 2008 2:47 PM, Mike Scarpiello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use this: http://www.browsertools.net/Flash-and-Pics-Control/ On Jan 31, 2008 2:34 PM, Todd Zaki Warfel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're on a Mac, which I'm assuming

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Testing for No Flash situation

2008-01-31 Thread Todd Roberts
Aaand I need to read more carefully since you stated you want a way other than this. On Jan 31, 2008 3:38 PM, Todd Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.browsercam.com I've not used it but it looks like it may do what you need it to do, and has a free trial for at least some of the

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Social app popularity begins to decline

2008-01-31 Thread Jeff Howard
There's a nice exploration/rant on this topic over on Adam Greenfield's blog: Antisocial Networking http://speedbird.wordpress.com/2007/12/09/antisocial-networking/ From the post - All social-networking systems, as currently designed, demonstrably create social awkwardnesses that did not, and

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Testing for No Flash situation

2008-01-31 Thread Jeff Seager
Since you mention Firefox add-ons, you might try one of these: Flashblock https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/433 Flash Switcher (for Windows only) https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3649 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Continuous Scroll

2008-01-31 Thread Bryan Haggerty
So in these two months, it never occured to me that the infinite scroll was being implemented, it was invisible to me. Part of some of the debate may be due to that the example implementation provided (http://www.symfony-project.org/demo/ pager.html ) does not have that seamless feeling like

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Testing for No Flash situation

2008-01-31 Thread Robert Hoekman, Jr.
In Safari, you can simply go to Safari Preferences Security and uncheck Enable plug-ins. -r- *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Social app popularity begins to decline

2008-01-31 Thread Jeff Seager
Greenfield makes some great points, Jeff. Thanks for that link to his Antisocial Networking rant. Looking at this from the standpoint of anthropology, I think there's something inevitable about how we're wrestling with some of these details just a few years after we've functionally connected

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Social app popularity begins to decline

2008-01-31 Thread Jeff Howard
To put it another way, The Map is Not The Territory. http://tinyurl.com/z4qps // jeff . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=25387 *Come

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Social app popularity begins to decline

2008-01-31 Thread W Evans
Jeff - going all Magritte on us now! To wit: This is not a pipe Not all social networks mediated by technology are the same. Friends on MySpace, Connections on LinkedIn, friends on Facebook -- may not be friends - but they are not precluded from being friends by the nature of the mediation. Some

[IxDA Discuss] The Beautiful and the Useful

2008-01-31 Thread Andrei Herasimchuk
On Jan 31, 2008, at 6:32 AM, Pankaj Chawla wrote: No I dont agree aesthetics is a fundamental requirement for IxD. For your consideration, another essay from Paul Rand, from his book Thoughts on Design. -- To interpret the modern approach to visual communication as mere sensationalism is

[IxDA Discuss] FW: # JOB # Interaction Designer #Bay Area# Recruiter # Contract

2008-01-31 Thread Veena Gowthamchand
Bestica Inc is looking for a Interaction Designer Superstar : If you have: * 7 years of Interaction Design * 3 years of Visual Design * Good understanding of SDLC * Excellent communications Then this position might be for you.

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Social app popularity begins to decline

2008-01-31 Thread W Evans
Wow - now your busting out with Baudrillard? Welcome to the desert of the real! Actually - I suppose that social networks will only exhibit the kind of crisis of identity when simulacra replace simulation, and copies without originals rule the SNAs *http://tinyurl.com/y9kh9w * On Thu, 31 Jan

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Social app popularity begins to decline

2008-01-31 Thread Jeff Seager
Will said: Jeff- going all Magritte on us now! To wit: 'This is not a pipe' Hah! Yeah, I was thinking something along the lines of the zen koan in which the monk says not the wind, not the flag, but mind is moving. Seriously, you're right that MySpace friends can transition (in either

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Social app popularity begins to decline

2008-01-31 Thread W Evans
I do agree with you on those points. I personally don't find this off topic because it goes to the nascent concept of a code of ethics for us - since many of us here are designing these new ecologies of simulated experience and identity - and we need to think about the implications of our design

[IxDA Discuss] job: senior ui designer/san diego, california/fte/intuit

2008-01-31 Thread Falkenburg, Nancy
Our San Diego site has a job opening for a senior user interface designer. If you might be interested in exploring this opportunity with us, please forward your portfolio/work samples to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[IxDA Discuss] JOB: Interaction Designer at Cooper, San Francisco, CA

2008-01-31 Thread Dee Montero
COMPANY: Cooper URL: www.cooper.com JOB LOCATION: San Francisco, CA JOB TITLE: Interaction Design Consultant JOB DURATION:

Re: [IxDA Discuss] SEO and Usability

2008-01-31 Thread Christine Boese
It also may belie user dissatisfaction with the navigation systems of sites they really want to use, in spite of getting lost or not finding what they may even know is there. I know for years, on many newspaper and major media source sites like CNN.com or MSNBC, I'd try 3-4 times to find an

Re: [IxDA Discuss] The Beautiful and the Useful

2008-01-31 Thread Andrei Herasimchuk
On Jan 31, 2008, at 7:44 PM, Pankaj Chawla wrote: On 2/1/08, Andrei Herasimchuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know of no formalized design profession in existence in this modern world where aesthetics, both material and immaterial, are not integral in some fashion to the practice of the

Re: [IxDA Discuss] The Beautiful and the Useful

2008-01-31 Thread Murli Nagasundaram
Where should I start? I fear that this discussion will end in a fierce debate concerning the meaning of the term 'design' -- one that has probably occurred several times on this list (and elsewhere). There might even be a secondary debate on the meaning of the term 'interaction'. Nevertheless,

[IxDA Discuss] job: senior ui designer/San Francisco bay area (mt. view)/fte/intuit

2008-01-31 Thread Falkenburg, Nancy
Our Mountain View campus has a job opening for a senior user interface designer. If you might be interested in exploring this opportunity with us, please forward your portfolio/work samples to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[IxDA Discuss] Seattle Monthly IA/UX Meetup - February 12th (date change!)

2008-01-31 Thread Aaron Louie
Once a month, we get together to have drinks, chat, network, and geek out with fellow information architects, librarians, usability experts, user experience designers, and other like-minded user-centered professionals and students. It's open to anyone, so bring a friend -- especially those in

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Differnce between user interface and interactio design?

2008-01-31 Thread Matthew Nish-Lapidus
i have another idea.. how about the Highlander approach. There can be only One. (sorry, late to the conversation, but that joke was just too good to pass up :) ) On Jan 25, 2008 11:37 AM, Jared M. Spool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While we're exploring other models, I'd recommend a World of

Re: [IxDA Discuss] The Beautiful and the Useful

2008-01-31 Thread Jeff Howard
Andrei, as far as I can tell, we're only hearing one side of a conversation between you and Pankaj. Are you re-posting private e-mail or is there just a lag with the list? // jeff . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org

[IxDA Discuss] [IxDA] Futures research education?

2008-01-31 Thread Sunandini Basu
Hi I recently became interested in Futures Research. Was wondering if there are any universities/ courses I can apply to? Thanks, Soo -- The details are not the details. They make the design' - Charles Eames Sunandini