Re: [IxDA Discuss] Adobe Fireworks for wire framing

2009-09-21 Thread Tino Truppel
pidoco is fully browser-based and a real alternative to locally installed softwares such as the Adobe Suite. Collaboration features as well as export to html, svg, and soon MS word export is possible. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Adobe Fireworks for wire framing

2009-09-21 Thread pauric
Tools are important, the right tool enables the craftsperson to create a quality end product for their given domain. If you're creating artifacts or interactions that will go in to production then that is one thing. Also, if your core strength is visual design then you need to consider hifi

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Adobe Fireworks for wire framing

2009-09-21 Thread Brandon E. B. Ward
re: To illustrate the point, with nothing more than some sand this woman was able to move her audience to tears As a composer sound designer, I'd be remiss not to interject: ...nothing more than some sand [and a lot of music, voice-over and sound design] this woman was able to move

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Adobe Fireworks for wire framing

2009-09-21 Thread pauric
Point taken Brandon and in the same vein... one wouldnt present a concept or lofi mockup without verbally expressing the expected user interaction or back-end mechanics. As Michael just tweeted: Buxton: There is no such thing as a low fidelity or high fidelity prototype--only the right or wrong

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Adobe Fireworks for wire framing

2009-09-19 Thread chris willet
if youre looking for a good alternative to fireworks/visio/omnigraffle, check out balsamiq. it has a decent template list, quick file save as .png, easily resize windows/components, change text and allows you to link buttons, links, whatever to show the flow of each page to page. . . . . . . . .

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Adobe Fireworks for wire framing

2009-09-19 Thread Gavin Sutherland
Like someone else here, this is my first post (although I've been an interested reader for a while), so hello! Glad to see such support for Fireworks for wireframing. I've been using it for many years now for such purposes and for me anyway, there is no alternative for rapid development right

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Adobe Fireworks for wire framing

2009-09-18 Thread Gilberto Medrano
I have been using Fireworks since 1998. I tried other tools like PS and Illustrator, and got away from tools like Visio or Omnigrafle long time ago because they don't fit that well on the way I am used to work. Some reasons why I keep using FW today: *- Collaboration.* Most of your design

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Adobe Fireworks for wire framing

2009-09-16 Thread Brian
Well I must say I am now really going to go out and try using Fireworks with all this support for it for wireframing. Just a quick question because I really have not used it so this comes out of pure ignorance and not argumentative, but why would I use it over using Photoshop or InDesign? I am

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Adobe Fireworks for wire framing

2009-09-16 Thread Thomas Petersen
Brian Over Photoshop because it has pages and states, because it\s faster and is made for interface design and web design. Because you can make components with it and output them either to flash or html. Because it's intutive and gives you all those nifty tools you need that make sense. Over

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Adobe Fireworks for wire framing

2009-09-16 Thread Shelly Cawood
currently after having a good at fireworks, my major issue is the quality of what it exports, its quite bad, exporting from omnigraffle or visio exports a vector file which prints well . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Adobe Fireworks for wire framing

2009-09-16 Thread Michael Dunn
Try 'save as' and select illustrator- presto, it's vector. If you were using the export option it would definitely come out low-res, as Fireworks is designed to be a web graphics tool On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 3:52 AM, Shelly Cawood she...@lamity.org wrote: currently after having a good at

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Adobe Fireworks for wire framing

2009-09-16 Thread Marc Truitt
Fireworks is nice for wireframes and hi-res mockups. I have experienced some problems with Fireworks CS4 for example when exporting to interactive PDF large files would hang. Fireworks also allows only one master-page to be set; there are many times when I%u2019m building a hi-res mockup to test

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Adobe Fireworks for wire framing

2009-09-16 Thread Adam Korman
On Sep 16, 2009, at 6:58 AM, Brian wrote: why would I use [Fireworks] over using Photoshop or InDesign? This is how I think about where Fireworks fits relative to other Adobe apps: - InDesign is great for creating documents - Photoshop is great for working with bitmap images - Illustrator

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Adobe Fireworks for wire framing

2009-09-16 Thread Thomas Bonney
I've been using Fireworks since version 2 and certainly it's been an indispensable tool for creating quick-sketch wireframes that can easily be evolved into high-fidelity/final design comps. As others have pointed out, combining shared layers with symbols in CS4 allows for a great deal of

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Adobe Fireworks for wire framing

2009-09-16 Thread Michael Jones
Illustrator still rules for concepting and sketching. Fireworks for proper wireframing, making lots of similar screens, and production graphics. For those of you about to commit to Fireworks for daily use, I would recommend downloading the Fireworks Auto-Save thingy here:

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Adobe Fireworks for wire framing

2009-09-15 Thread Tran Tuan Anh
I used Fireworks for all my design work: prototypes, screenshots, wireframes. * Fireworks give you ultimate flexibility as you can consider it as Photoshop Illustrator in 1 package. * It is pixel based sizing as someone pointed out. Hence, it is great for any design work for screen-based:

[IxDA Discuss] Adobe Fireworks for wire framing

2009-09-14 Thread Shelly Cawood
Recently I have been getting increasingly frustrated by the limitations of Omnigraffle and the complexity and bugs of using Visio, not to mention having to switching between operating systems to use Visio when i am a mac user. So I am very interested in the increase in talk of people using

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Adobe Fireworks for wire framing

2009-09-14 Thread Mike Higgins
This doesn't answer your question directly, but have you tried SketchFlow? It has all the features you mention for Fireworks, plus has the ability to show the experience (interactivity) side if needed. Its a little bit of a learning curve and PC-only so you'd have to use parallels if you're on a

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Adobe Fireworks for wire framing

2009-09-14 Thread Todd Warfel
Fireworks makes a great all around design tool for anything digital (e.g. websites, webapps, mobile apps). One of the great things about is that you can do lo-fi (like OmniGraffle and Visio) and you can do hi-fi (like Photoshop), which makes it a great round trip tool. It ships with a number of

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Adobe Fireworks for wire framing

2009-09-14 Thread Scott Baldwin
I love Fireworks for wireframing, but it does have some limitations: - single Master Page can be created only - a lack of stencil options - no macros Some pros: - ability to export files quickly to PDF, HTML, JPEGS, etc and create quick functional prototypes - pixel based sizing means you are

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Adobe Fireworks for wire framing

2009-09-14 Thread Eugenio Grigolon
Hey Shelly, how are you? I think we're in the same boat. I've also tried Omnigraffle and Visio (currently working with it because it is a business requirement) and I'm still no happy with both. I watched some videos in Adobe's web site talking about wireframing and rapid prototyping with

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Adobe Fireworks for wire framing

2009-09-14 Thread Scott Baldwin
Hi Josh, By stencil limitations I meant the lack of pre-made stencils available. OmniGraffle has GraffleTopia. There is little similar for Fireworks. Not that it is hard to create your own. Scott Baldwin . Sent from my iPhone On 2009-09-14, at 7:15 AM,

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Adobe Fireworks for wire framing

2009-09-14 Thread Brian
I have been playing with this: http://unify.eightshapes.com/ http://unify.eightshapes.com/general/quickstart-on-prototyping-with-wireframes/ I have been having fun this morning wishing I was here: http://ideaconference.org/2009/Program/#day-0 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Adobe Fireworks for wire framing

2009-09-14 Thread Alan James Salmoni
I use Fireworks all the time for wireframing. I like it because it goes from quick and dirty low level prototyping through to hi-fi camera ready versions. I would suggest downloading Adobe's free trial and trying it out yourself along with some reference material such as Todd's above. . . . .

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Adobe Fireworks for wire framing

2009-09-14 Thread Brooke Dunagan
I have actually used Fireworks, Illustrator, Photoshop, Visio, iRise and Axure for wireframing. There are pros and cons to each of them, but I did like using Fireworks better than most. Though you don't have a library of stencils to choose from, I usually created a set of objects and just pasted

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Adobe Fireworks for wire framing

2009-09-14 Thread Vance Vagell
I use both Visio and Fireworks, but for wireframes I prefer Fireworks hands-down. The advanced alignment guides and reuse tools (e.g., symbols) are fantastic, and you can't beat its key competency: bitmap and vector graphics seamlessly editable in the same tool. Depending on your project's needs

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Adobe Fireworks for wire framing

2009-09-14 Thread milind sonavane
Hi, I had gone through couple of sites rich internet apps for quick easy prototyping. I found them intuitive, easy. Apps (Balsamiq Napkee) are working for me. You can check links for details http://mockupstogo.net/ http://www.balsamiq.com/products/mockups http://www.napkee.com/ . . . . .

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Adobe Fireworks for wire framing

2009-09-14 Thread Will Meurer
I use Fireworks all the time for wireframing and prototyping. We have a single product that we created/rework features for, so we've created some reusable stencils (or symbols as Fireworks call them) for our most-common design elements. Fireworks has a lot of great stencils for higher fidelity

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Adobe Fireworks for wire framing

2009-09-14 Thread hilary b
Hi there, my first ever IxDA post, how very exciting! I use both fireworks and visio to wireframe. The flexibity in fireworks makes it my first choice, the ablity to do low or hi fidelity is useful (depending on the audience) and lots of other reasons that have been covered by others. However no