On Oct 5, 2009, at 8:03 PM, David Hatch wrote:
From Alok Jain: "Search requires recall of sorts, there is a
decision required on how to form the query and more. Browsing on
the other hand is more on the recognition side." I like this and
would add that there is much less cognitive muscle
Hi all,
Thanks for taking the time to respond. Lots of thoughtful replies and
additional info for me to go track down. While there are a few responses from
folks that encourage a search dominant approach (Peter Morville) the majority
of responders trended toward recommending a hybrid approach to
Good point ... that's why I've been leaning more toward thinking in terms of
Context, which is related to place (and cognitively shares some brain matter
with how we process & navigate physical space), but thinking of this sort of
space in terms of context allows for the fluidity we find in digital
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Andrew Hinton wrote:
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> In fact, Search, done well, is essentially dynamic, custom browsing.
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That in it's self is rendering 'sense of place' as a less than effective a
metaphor.
Welcome to the I
The default browse experience has several simultaneous goals. One of those
goals is to give a visitor some sense of what that site is about and what
can be expected to be found there. It helps orient a visitor and provide
context, whether the 'tabs' get clicked or not.
But the idea that *everythi
I agree with the idea of search being a powerful interface and that
"Google is our interface" idea. Even app launchers like Quicksilver
(OSX) have worked very well and they are fundamentally search.
However there are a few points that make it not so simple
1. From an experience standpoint the dif
Your message immediately brought to mind a comment from Jeff Atwood
discussing Stackoverflow -
"Google is our interface".
I think this sort of thinking is especially pertinent to any site
that has a knowledge base function.
Clearly a huge generalisation, but it's probably worth remembering
tha
David,
I've been watching my wife and son struggle while learning to use Adobe
products, searching through help and online using their own words or
descriptions for what they think they want to do, knowing the answers are
locked up somewhere in a vault they can't identify. Eventually, they may
stu
I agree when you say that the search function is a very important way
to allow the users to find out the information they are looking for.
But this should not substitute the "traditional" navigation.
The http://www.sequoiacap.com/ site, for example, has zero
information scent. I can't guess the co
So you are the one of the ones responsible for turning adobe's
god-awful site into something at least usable?
There is a long way yet to go. I don't think a search-based paradigm
is the way to go. Let google get people to your pages by search.
I see adobe site users as falling into 3 groups. Thos
Google IS your dominant wayfinding paradigme.
Just become one with their search algorithm and keep the site as it
is.
A lot of Adobe is about not knowing what you don't know.
If I know what I want I am going to search google and then hopefully
you have the answer.
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Whenever I see a debate about wayfinding I think of Donna Spencer's
excellent article for Boxes and Arrows, "Four Modes of Information
Seeking and How to Design for Them"
http://www.boxesandarrows.com/view/four_modes_of_seeking_information_and_how_to_design_for_them
It's a nice way to open up the
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Peter is right on here... in theory. But in application it typically does
not work.
The users with the greatest needs, within government sites in particular, do
not have domain expertise. So they often do not know what to search for.
Google has by far, the most productive and useful search algorith
I recently performed a review of this site: www.autohound.ca. My
initial reaction to the dominant homepage search options was "This
is great. Rather than bombard me with options, I have a clear path."
[Note: Since my review they've added some additional features that
push the Search further down th
Personally, I find value in the structure a well-designed product site
affords. "Search" presumes that I know what I'm looking for, while
"Browse" allows me to see and react to topics that interest me.
Very frequently, for instance, when I land on a product company's
page, I'll browse to see what
At first I pushed back a bit; a natural reflex action ;-)
But on remembering my last couple of days troubleshooting some issues
on my Mac I remember how good the Apple Support site search is now IF
you have enough of the right search parameters at your grasp. If you
are a newbie then you have far
Hi all,
For the past several months I have been perseverating on the concept of
creating a search-dominant wayfinding system for my web site: Adobe.com.
Why, you may ask? My thought (and I know Jared, at minimum will disagree
after having just listened to a recent podcast from him on this) is th
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