Re: [IxDA Discuss] good examples for disability and web 2.0??

2008-12-31 Thread Jennison Mark Asuncion
Maria et al, One of the big challenges is the fact that many assistive technologies, like screen readers, are still catching up in terms of their ability to communicate what is happening on RIA screens to users (e.g., partial content updates VS full page reloads). Also, keep in mind that a

Re: [IxDA Discuss] good examples for disability and web 2.0??

2008-12-31 Thread gatesix
Thanks for the links. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=36539 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this

Re: [IxDA Discuss] good examples for disability and web 2.0??

2008-12-31 Thread William Brall
In the end. I think many things that ajax sites do, are very very hard to do right for screen readers. And in many cases, are pointless to do for screen reader. This is why I am a HUGE proponent of separate interfaces for screen readers. At the end of the day, you aren't doing interaction design

Re: [IxDA Discuss] good examples for disability and web 2.0??

2008-12-26 Thread Casey Edgeton
and then 6.0 is The Matrix On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Will Evans w...@semanticfoundry.comwrote: Oh. And 5.0 The Singularity Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ...

Re: [IxDA Discuss] good examples for disability and web 2.0??

2008-12-26 Thread R Sengers
You might want to take a look at webAIM.org (a good resource for accessibility). There have been some discussions on Web 2.0/ajax/etc in the email discussion group. Maybe search for terms like ajax or ria or web 2.0 in the archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives.php Also some articles

Re: [IxDA Discuss] good examples for disability and web 2.0??

2008-12-26 Thread Will Evans
Web 7.0 The Schismatrix: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schismatrix On Dec 21, 2008, at 6:16 PM, Casey Edgeton wrote: and then 6.0 is The Matrix On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Will Evans w...@semanticfoundry.comwrote: Oh. And 5.0 The Singularity

Re: [IxDA Discuss] good examples for disability and web 2.0??

2008-12-26 Thread William Brall
All your purchases could be automated. If it can't figure out that you like to keep certain things on hand. (There would be sensors either at the front door or in your pantry as well) You'll still be able to parse lists of what you have bought in the past. And more importantly, What is to stop it

Re: [IxDA Discuss] good examples for disability and web 2.0??

2008-12-26 Thread marc resnick
Perhaps we are getting off track on the original question about disability, but I think we will see aware sites well before we see aware refrigerators. It may be easy for the fridge to know that the milk is running low (RFID and weight sensor would take care of that), that I always use milk (a

Re: [IxDA Discuss] good examples for disability and web 2.0??

2008-12-21 Thread Will Evans
Oh. And 5.0 The Singularity will evans emotive architect hedonic designer w...@semanticfoundry.com 617.281.1281 twitter: semanticwill aim: semanticwill gtalk: wkevans4 skype: semanticwill _ Sent via iPhone On Dec 21, 2008, at 5:56 PM, Will Evans wkeva...@gmail.com

Re: [IxDA Discuss] good examples for disability and web 2.0??

2008-12-21 Thread Will Evans
2.0 the social web 3.0 the semantic web 4.0 the self-aware web will evans emotive architect hedonic designer w...@semanticfoundry.com 617.281.1281 twitter: semanticwill aim: semanticwill gtalk: wkevans4 skype: semanticwill _ Sent via iPhone On Dec 21, 2008, at 1:52

Re: [IxDA Discuss] good examples for disability and web 2.0??

2008-12-21 Thread William Brall
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_2.0 While wikipedia does make mention of ajax and other richer web offerings as being part of many web 2.0 sites. It says just that. It is a part of many web 2.0 sites. Not the definition of web 2.0. 2.0 sites, from the perspective of wikipedia, are what I said.

Re: [IxDA Discuss] good examples for disability and web 2.0??

2008-12-20 Thread William Brall
Ajax != web 2.0 1.0 = content by web authors. 2.0 = content by website users. 3.0 = constructs by users and software as a service. So, for web 2.0 there shouldn't be any extra concerns for disabilities, but accessibility on the web has been a joke for much longer than the X.0 concept has

Re: [IxDA Discuss] good examples for disability and web 2.0??

2008-12-20 Thread Christian Crumlish
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 10:48 PM, William Brall dam...@earthlink.netwrote: Ajax != web 2.0 1.0 = content by web authors. 2.0 = content by website users. 3.0 = constructs by users and software as a service. according to whom? i've heard numerous definitions of web 3.0, none of them

[IxDA Discuss] good examples for disability and web 2.0??

2008-12-19 Thread Maria De Monte
Hello folks, talking about web 2.0 and its moving toward a 3.0 era, I've been questioning myself about how web 2.0 has prompted accessibility problems by people with disabilities. It seems to me, in fact, that disability matters are still solved with classic solutions. However, I think the

Re: [IxDA Discuss] good examples for disability and web 2.0??

2008-12-19 Thread Steve Baty
Maria, You might like to take a look at some of the work Derek Featherstone has been doing in this area. His presentation to Web Direction South in September can be found here:

Re: [IxDA Discuss] good examples for disability and web 2.0??

2008-12-19 Thread Maria
Hi Steve, I took a fast look at the links you sent me. Really interesting examples, I'll keep an eye on these skilled guys, thank you. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=36539

Re: [IxDA Discuss] good examples for disability and web 2.0??

2008-12-19 Thread Adrian Howard
On 19 Dec 2008, at 10:48, Maria De Monte wrote: Hello folks, talking about web 2.0 and its moving toward a 3.0 era, I've been questioning myself about how web 2.0 has prompted accessibility problems by people with disabilities. It seems to me, in fact, that disability matters are still