Re: [IxDA Discuss] home links

2008-02-14 Thread Nathan Philpot
According to this article by Jacob Nielson, the Home button is still needed. A fairly large minority of users still don't know that they can get to a site's homepage by clicking its logo, so I still have to recommend having an explicit home link on all interior pages (not on the homepage, of

Re: [IxDA Discuss] home links

2008-02-05 Thread julie palmer
There is another option that I haven't seen mentioned in this thread yet. For a more explict link than the linking of the logo, instead of taking up the left-most spot in a horizontal main nav bar or the top spot in a vertical nav bar, you can put it with other unobtrusive, ancillary links in the

Re: [IxDA Discuss] home links

2008-02-05 Thread Abi Jones
Ah, not showing the home button until you're away from home. This reminds me of the a href=http://nytimes.com;New York Times/a. I can't click the title of the paper or the home tab to refresh the front page (a frequent want on intense news days/nights). I'm not using it to 'reset' myself in

Re: [IxDA Discuss] home links

2008-02-04 Thread Paul Eisen
Jeff said, I don't think the numbers tell everything about the usefulness of this or any other function (I've only needed a seatbelt once, but I was glad to have it), so Bryan's data doesn't surprise me. Some familiar controls may be worth keeping for the sake of user comfort and convenience, more

Re: [IxDA Discuss] home links

2008-02-04 Thread Rui Ramos
In addition to what Joroen just said, I'd like to ask you guys how does the home on rollover logo helps Aunt Tilly to find her way to the home page, providing she has no idea about the logo working as a navigational item. I mean, if you have a clue about this standard, it's obvious that the

Re: [IxDA Discuss] home links

2008-02-04 Thread Jeroen Elstgeest
Reset notwithstanding, for many sites, the content on the home page is introductory, and the navigation is universal. Thus, if you're on an inner page, and you want to go somewhere else, there's really no reason to go home to do it. There are plenty of exceptions of course (a newspaper site

Re: [IxDA Discuss] home links

2008-02-04 Thread Jeff Seager
Another advantage of the reset function that I've used a lot myself: You're exploring a site and, the more you see, the more you think you might like to come back again. You don't necessarily want to bookmark the page where you figured that out; you probably want the introductory page. It's a

Re: [IxDA Discuss] home links

2008-02-04 Thread W Evans
There is never a reason to not make the logo also a home link - there is no cost, and many people actually do understand that it is a pseudo-standard. But an explicitly labeled home link in the global (not local) navigation is equally - if not more important. Unless --- your site info arch lends

Re: [IxDA Discuss] home links

2008-02-04 Thread Bryan Minihan
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of W Evans Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] home links There is never a reason to not make the logo also a home link - there is no cost, and many people actually do understand that it is a pseudo-standard

Re: [IxDA Discuss] home links

2008-02-04 Thread David Talbot
I think that whether to put a home link on the menu or on the logo or both should depends, as it was previously said, on the kind of public that your site is designed for. I personnaly got an issue with the Home button of one of my sites. I used to put it in the logo because I thought it was

Re: [IxDA Discuss] home links

2008-02-04 Thread Mike Scarpiello
Discuss] home links There is never a reason to not make the logo also a home link - there is no cost, and many people actually do understand that it is a pseudo-standard. But an explicitly labeled home link in the global (not local) navigation is equally - if not more important. Unless

Re: [IxDA Discuss] home links

2008-02-04 Thread Mike Scarpiello
You could split the difference with the Amazon treatment - the logo reveals 'homepage' on rollover. *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/

[IxDA Discuss] home links

2008-02-03 Thread Micah Freedman
Does anyone have any research and/or rules-of-thumb about the usefulness of putting home in the permanent navigation? I tend to want to leave it off because A) on most sites, I feel like once the user is in the site, there's not really much of a reason for them to go home, and B) The click

Re: [IxDA Discuss] home links

2008-02-03 Thread Christine Boese
The thing that makes me crazy is when sites don't follow the design convention of using the main site branding or logo being a constant link throughout the site to the site's front door. I don't see these pages as being a home as much as I see them as an essential navigational portal into the

Re: [IxDA Discuss] home links

2008-02-03 Thread Joseph Selbie
Micah, Your sort of answered the question yourself. Your answer should be derived from your users. If Aunt Tilly is a significant user type, or actual persona, then by all means include home in the main navigation. In a general, unless there is a space issue, brand issue, or some other

Re: [IxDA Discuss] home links

2008-02-03 Thread Jeff Seager
I'd echo what Christine and Joseph say, and add that in some cases you can simply view the site's name or title in the same way you would a logo. I personally don't like the generic Home link, either, but I like using a consistent text link in the main nav that functions as a home link.

Re: [IxDA Discuss] home links

2008-02-03 Thread Bryan Minihan
http://www.bryanminihan.com -Original Message- From: Paul Eisen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 3:34 PM To: Bryan Minihan; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [IxDA Discuss] home links Bryan, These results are quite interesting; thanks for sharing. You mentioned, We

Re: [IxDA Discuss] home links

2008-02-03 Thread Anthony Hempell
On 3-Feb-08, at 7:03 AM, Micah Freedman wrote: A) on most sites, I feel like once the user is in the site, there's not really much of a reason for them to go home, Can you explain what you mean here? In my observations of how people use site navigation, I've seen them using the home link

Re: [IxDA Discuss] home links

2008-02-03 Thread Micah Freedman
A) on most sites, I feel like once the user is in the site, there's not really much of a reason for them to go home, Can you explain what you mean here? In my observations of how people use site navigation, I've seen them using the home link as their default navigation reset,

Re: [IxDA Discuss] home links

2008-02-03 Thread Paul Eisen
Bryan, These results are quite interesting; thanks for sharing. You mentioned, We found the Home link was the least clicked link in the banner, with something like less than 1-2% of clicks for the entire banner (the primary nav consisted of about 9-10 visible links, with several popup menus of

Re: [IxDA Discuss] home links

2008-02-03 Thread Bryan Minihan
reasons why I don't work there anymore, but the above is one of the more interesting ones. Bryan http://www.bryanminihan.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Micah Freedman Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] home links In a casual review, I found