Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Wiki: InfrastructurePreferencesStatusQuo - call for update

2017-03-23 Thread Vicky Vergara
Added a line for pgRouting On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 2:14 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote: > +1 Greatly insightful slide deck from Maxi about Open principles in > general and OSGeo in particular. Thanks for sharing. > > Cameron > > On 22/3/17 4:02 am, Jody Garnett wrote: > >

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Is it possible for properitery GIS vendor to market thier properitery product as Open ?

2017-03-23 Thread Suchith Anand
+1 . I am also interested in how we can protect taxpayers money in this. The need for cost savings by using Open source GIS software will help the local authorities and various government departments across Europe in reducing huge licence fee costs for proprietary software and Government and

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] GRASS GIS video from 1987: 30th anniversary blog post / link

2017-03-23 Thread Jeff McKenna
Thanks Peter, very enjoyable to read the history! Happy 30th anniversary to the famous video. Also, I'm proud to have played a small part in that video's history: at FOSS4G 2004 in Bangkok Jim Westervelt wowed us all when he first showed the digital version of that video in his keynote, and

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Is it possible for properitery GIS vendor to market thier properitery product as Open ?

2017-03-23 Thread Jody Garnett
Think my point is that android software is open source ... but the android open platform is google. Open platform - business arrangement between platform provider, customers and vendors Open software source - software license model On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 5:11 AM James Klassen

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Is it possible for properitery GIS vendor to market thier properitery product as Open ?

2017-03-23 Thread James Klassen
Historically, labeling software "open" has meant built to open standards that anyone else could theoretically implement. For example OpenLook, OpenSTEP, The Open Software Foundation (the group behind the Motif X11 toolkit - and the lack of a free and open source implementation was a major

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Is it possible for properitery GIS vendor to market thier properitery product as Open ?

2017-03-23 Thread María Arias de Reyna
On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Luí­s Moreira de Sousa < luis.de.so...@protonmail.ch> wrote: > > I believe we need a regulatory framework for "open source" labelling; > something like the EU regulation 1169/2011 [2] for organic farming. It not > only sets the criteria for farmers to label their

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Is it possible for properitery GIS vendor to market thier properitery product as Open ?

2017-03-23 Thread Luí­s Moreira de Sousa
Dear all, In all countries of the OECD marketing practices are regulated in one way or another. For instance, if I sell ear rings made out of lead I can not claim they are made of silver. In some cases this sort of distinction is not easy, as is the case with "open source" or "open". In the

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Is it possible for properitery GIS vendor to market thier properitery product as Open ?

2017-03-23 Thread María Arias de Reyna
On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 8:32 AM, María Arias de Reyna < delawen+os...@gmail.com> wrote: > This is a rough-and-tumble competition - we can no longer use the short >> hand "open" to capture what we do here at OSGeo. We are going to have to >> wade into these debates with a strong story and clear

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Is it possible for properitery GIS vendor to market thier properitery product as Open ?

2017-03-23 Thread María Arias de Reyna
So, to make it clear: * Being interoperable (using open standards) does not mean being open * Having an API open to third party developers does not mean being open * Using libraries that are open in your source code does not mean being open * Having a good documentation does not mean being

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Is it possible for properitery GIS vendor to market thier properitery product as Open ?

2017-03-23 Thread María Arias de Reyna
Hi, On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 2:52 AM, Jody Garnett wrote: > Considering android is marketed as open, yes this is possible in our > industry as well :) > Android is open: https://source.android.com/source/downloading.html You can download the code, modify it, build it,