Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] OSGeo is the host of FOSS4G not a guest

2017-07-03 Thread Charlie Schweik
On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 10:36 AM, Marc VLOEMANS wrote: > > Let's keep the momentum, the mojo, the vibe and focus on the future! > Thanks Marc, As an OSGeo Charter Member, a co-leader of GeoForAll, and OSGeo's education efforts, and someone in Massachusetts (but not really active with the BLOC),

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] OSGeo is the host of FOSS4G not a guest

2017-07-03 Thread Marc VLOEMANS
Dear All, With my 'Marketing-hat' on, I have followed this thread with interest and growing apprehension. As is often the case with this type of discussion-thread: everyone makes a serious point, but we are jointly still far away from a solution. The good thing: more and more of us seem to care ho

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] OSGeo is the host of FOSS4G not a guest

2017-07-03 Thread Shin, Sanghee
Dear Maxi, First of all thanks for your raising concerns over this. And I’d like to share my thoughts on this with you & others. 1. As a non native English(or Latin) speaker, I couldn’t tell the difference between ‘hosted by OSGeo’ and ‘presented by OSGeo’ and even ‘organised by OSGeo.’ To m

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] OSGeo is the host of FOSS4G not a guest

2017-07-03 Thread James Klassen
As a OSGeo charter member and as someone who had a very small supporting role in organizing a past FOSS4G-NA, I have seen a glimpse of the enormous amount of effort it takes to successfully organize a conference. In addition to all the normal conference logistics, FOSS4G has the additional challen

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] OSGeo is the host of FOSS4G not a guest

2017-07-03 Thread Werner Leyh
Hi Guido, thanks for your constructive contribution. Best wishes for "Boston 2017 presented by OSGeo" Werner On Mon, 7/3/17, Guido Stein wrote: Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] OSGeo is the host of FOSS4G not a guest To: "Till A

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] OSGeo is the host of FOSS4G not a guest

2017-07-03 Thread Guido Stein
Good morning folks, First, I have no problem making adjustments to the website. It's not a big deal and can be done rather quickly. That said, I am a bit frustrated and disheartened by this conversation. The tone to me feels aggressive and discounts the reality of the work that the LOC has put in

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] OSGeo is the host of FOSS4G not a guest

2017-07-03 Thread Puneet Kishor
Well, I am a part of the community, and I don't agree, not with this point of view and not with how similar conversations keep recurring. This is not the OSGeo that I recognize anymore, for this one seems more concerned with how it is perceived than what it does. I'm outta here … -- Puneet Kis

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] OSGeo is the host of FOSS4G not a guest

2017-07-03 Thread Till Adams
Hi, I also agree with Maxi. I think the point we have to care about is that OSGeo is visible prominently on the F4G-conference-website and also during the conference. We put a strong focus on OSGeo-presence in 2016. Till Am 03.07.2017 um 09:17 schrieb andrea antonello: > Hi all, > I completel

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] OSGeo is the host of FOSS4G not a guest

2017-07-03 Thread Massimiliano Cannata
+1 Andrea, this was my intention: not produce additional costs but fix ASAP what is possible (e.g.: website) given that the board and the community agree with my point of view :-) Maxi 2017-07-03 9:17 GMT+02:00 andrea antonello : > Hi all, > I completely agree with Massimiliano. There is a

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] OSGeo is the host of FOSS4G not a guest

2017-07-03 Thread andrea antonello
Hi all, I completely agree with Massimiliano. There is a huge difference between host and sponsor. That said, I understand Brad's points and also would never want for this to end in additional costs. But this should be considered as something to keep well in mind. Regards, Andrea On Mon,

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] OSGeo is the host of FOSS4G not a guest

2017-07-02 Thread Puneet Kishor
As a (nominal) Charter Member, I personally couldn't care about this issue. As long as everyone involved is for the same higher purpose, who is sponsoring who or supporting what is just details. Move on and focus on the bigger tasks. > On Jul 2, 2017, at 5:47 PM, Brad Hards wrote: > > Professo

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] OSGeo is the host of FOSS4G not a guest

2017-07-02 Thread Brad Hards
Professor Cannata, > Your answer clarifies that OSGeo has not paid for being listed as sponsor. > > This doesn't change my idea that OSGeo shouldn't be listed as a sponsor an > thus > > I renew my request to the board for removing OSGeo from that list and from > any material listing OSGeo together

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] OSGeo is the host of FOSS4G not a guest

2017-07-02 Thread Jody Garnett
Maxi are you concerned about the impression being listed on the sponsors page provides? The board has never approved a "gold sponsorship", it looks like this was something negotiated on the conference-dev list as part of accepting the proposal. With respect to OSGeo taking financial risk, and bein

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] OSGeo is the host of FOSS4G not a guest

2017-07-02 Thread Massimiliano Cannata
Dear Michael, Your answer clarifies that OSGeo has not paid for being listed as sponsor. This doesn't change my idea that OSGeo shouldn't be listed as a sponsor an thus I renew my request to the board for removing OSGeo from that list and from any material listing OSGeo together (at the same leve