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Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Is it possible for properitery GIS vendor to
market thier properitery product as Open ?
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From: dirk.fri...@geosparc.com
To: discuss@lists.osgeo.org
Dear Luïs,
I fully
Dear Luïs,
I fully agree!
How could we approach this for open source software?
(sorry for my late reaction, just returned from a longer holiday break ...)
Dirk.
On 23-03-17 09:30, Luís Moreira de Sousa wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> In all countries of the OECD marketing practices are regulated in on
clear . The Future of Geo is Open.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Suchith
>
>
> From: Kiringai Kamau
> Sent: 23 March 2017 4:28 AM
> To: Anand Suchith
> Cc: discuss@lists.osgeo.org; geofor...@lists.osgeo.org
> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Is it poss
Hi Mateusz,
I'd suggest it depends on the nature of the secret. There are certainly rare
circumstances where they came in useful - Enigma being broken in WW2 being a
prime example.
But more recently consider all of the revelations of the innumerable security
bugs that the CIA/NSA (and no doubt
lt;jody.garn...@gmail.com>
Sent: 25 March 2017 7:21 AM
To: Ravi Kumar; Anand Suchith
Cc: discuss@lists.osgeo.org; geofor...@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Is it possible for properitery GIS vendor to
market thier properitery product as Open ?
And here is the biz model definition,
On 25 March 2017 at 13:01, Paolo Cavallini wrote:
> Il 25/03/2017 12:56, Mateusz Loskot ha scritto:
>
>> They do, but at the same time, we wouldn't be where we are now
>> in terms of civilisation development. yin/yang
>
> Not quite sure about that: Mateusz, do you have a reference to support this?
I would also be interested. Have not read the entire thread yet. That said,
most (all?) large app and software providers now offer open APIs. Check out
Google, Twitter, Amazon and on and on. These APIs are "open" because anyone
can implement, use, develop, etc. You could even use the API definition
Il 25/03/2017 12:56, Mateusz Loskot ha scritto:
> They do, but at the same time, we wouldn't be where we are now
> in terms of civilisation development. yin/yang
Not quite sure about that: Mateusz, do you have a reference to support this?
All the best, and thanks.
--
Paolo Cavallini - www.fauna
On 25 March 2017 at 12:54, Sandro Santilli wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 12:43:29PM +0100, Mateusz Loskot wrote:
>
>> without a secret, there is no technology advancement
>
> I think this is a purely ideological position.
>
> Secrets can generate all kind of deseases, if you ask me :)
They do,
On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 12:43:29PM +0100, Mateusz Loskot wrote:
> without a secret, there is no technology advancement
I think this is a purely ideological position.
Secrets can generate all kind of deseases, if you ask me :)
--strk;
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On 25 March 2017 at 10:17, Suchith Anand wrote:
> My query was if the term Open can be used for marketing any properitery
> softwares and platforms and to know if there are any guidelines on this?
Nobody has a monopoly on use of the word.
BTW, without a secret, there is no technology advancemen
From: Jody Garnett
Sent: 25 March 2017 7:21 AM
To: Ravi Kumar; Anand Suchith
Cc: discuss@lists.osgeo.org; geofor...@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Is it possible for properitery GIS vendor to
market thier properitery product as Open ?
And here is the biz model
And here is the biz model definition, I would be interested if the original
poster can clarify in which context the word was used :)
On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 9:55 PM Ravi Kumar
wrote:
> This is a good thread, and let us discuss to derive a 'Note', for those
> facing 'Questions', evangelising Free
This is a good thread, and let us discuss to derive a 'Note', for those
facing 'Questions', evangelising Free and Open GIS.
I suggest this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_platform for many who
wish to know.
May be we can have a page on, 'OSGeo Wiki' on this topic.
Cheers
Ravi Kumar
On Thu, Ma
Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Is it possible for properitery GIS vendor to
market thier properitery product as Open ?
Dear Suchith,
My opinion is that OSGeo defines the value chain orientation of open software
to ensure customers.
This will help customers to understand the elements/components that are
rket thier
> properitery product as Open ? (Jody Garnett)
> 12. Re: GRASS GIS video from 1987: 30th anniversary blog post /
> link (Jeff McKenna)
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> From: Suchith Anand
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Reyna
Sent: 23 March 2017 9:20 AM
To: Luís Moreira de Sousa
Cc: discuss@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Is it possible for properitery GIS vendor to
market thier properitery product as Open ?
On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Luís
Think my point is that android software is open source ... but the android
open platform is google.
Open platform - business arrangement between platform provider, customers
and vendors
Open software source - software license model
On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 5:11 AM James Klassen wrote:
> Historica
Historically, labeling software "open" has meant built to open standards
that anyone else could theoretically implement. For example OpenLook,
OpenSTEP, The Open Software Foundation (the group behind the Motif X11
toolkit - and the lack of a free and open source implementation was a major
stumblin
On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Luís Moreira de Sousa <
luis.de.so...@protonmail.ch> wrote:
>
> I believe we need a regulatory framework for "open source" labelling;
> something like the EU regulation 1169/2011 [2] for organic farming. It not
> only sets the criteria for farmers to label their p
Dear all,
In all countries of the OECD marketing practices are regulated in one way or
another. For instance, if I sell ear rings made out of lead I can not claim
they are made of silver. In some cases this sort of distinction is not easy, as
is the case with "open source" or "open".
In the Eu
On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 8:32 AM, María Arias de Reyna <
delawen+os...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is a rough-and-tumble competition - we can no longer use the short
>> hand "open" to capture what we do here at OSGeo. We are going to have to
>> wade into these debates with a strong story and clear exa
So, to make it clear:
* Being interoperable (using open standards) does not mean being open
* Having an API open to third party developers does not mean being open
* Using libraries that are open in your source code does not mean being
open
* Having a good documentation does not mean being ope
Hi,
On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 2:52 AM, Jody Garnett
wrote:
> Considering android is marketed as open, yes this is possible in our
> industry as well :)
>
Android is open: https://source.android.com/source/downloading.html
You can download the code, modify it, build it, use it and redistribute it
Dear Suchith,
My opinion is that OSGeo defines the value chain orientation of open software
to ensure customers.
This will help customers to understand the elements/components that are/should
be open and which are value added contributions of the vendor. All value added
innovations of the ven
Considering android is marketed as open, yes this is possible in our
industry as well :)
Keep in mind we have several definitions of "open", even "open source" does
not match the same meaning of open advocated by the free software
foundation.
In our industry specifically we have open standards, a
Hi all,
I have a query. If a properitery GIS vendor starts marketing thier properitery
products as Open platform and software then what rights do the organisations
and customers have who are mislead buying the properitery software thinking it
is open have ? The definision of Proprietary soft
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