RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] RE: Representing Places With Intelligent URLs

2010-10-06 Thread Geoff Hay
f P Kishor [punk.k...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 7 October 2010 10:14 a.m. To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] RE: Representing Places With Intelligent URLs On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Geoff Hay wrote: > Hi > The knowledge you are trying to encode should be represented

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] RE: Representing Places With Intelligent URLs

2010-10-06 Thread P Kishor
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Geoff Hay wrote: > Hi > The knowledge you are trying to encode should be represented as associations > between individuals (this place contains that place etc) and concepts (city, > park, post office delivery area, etc) (as in OWL) rather than a URI scheme > (see

[OSGeo-Discuss] RE: Representing Places With Intelligent URLs

2010-10-06 Thread Geoff Hay
Hi The knowledge you are trying to encode should be represented as associations between individuals (this place contains that place etc) and concepts (city, park, post office delivery area, etc) (as in OWL) rather than a URI scheme (see Geonames). The basic idea is to represent places in a way

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] RE: Representing Places With Intelligent URLs

2010-10-06 Thread Bob Basques
Allen, You need the Centimeter stuff to realize that something moved over the two years. Besides, that just ends up being a re-projection in the end anyway. :c) bobb >>> Allan Doyle wrote: On Oct 5, 2010, at 9:58 PM, Bob Basques wrote: > All, > > I'm a long time address database

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] RE: Representing Places With Intelligent URLs

2010-10-06 Thread Allan Doyle
On Oct 5, 2010, at 9:58 PM, Bob Basques wrote: > All, > > I'm a long time address database creation/maintenance/re-creation fiend > myself. > > I've also been working with the USNG (MGRS) gridding system the last few > years, and need to at least suggest the idea of > using a Gridding syste

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] RE: Representing Places With Intelligent URLs

2010-10-05 Thread Bob Basques
All, I'm a long time address database creation/maintenance/re-creation fiend myself. I've also been working with the USNG (MGRS) gridding system the last few years, and need to at least suggest the idea of using a Gridding system to locate things. This idea is not nbew, but USNG usage has gai

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] RE: Representing Places With Intelligent URLs

2010-10-05 Thread Landon Blake
The geonames ontology looks like it might work for me. I'll read it over tomorrow. Thanks for the suggestion. Landon Sent from my iPhone On Oct 5, 2010, at 5:45 PM, "Ian Turton" wrote: > On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Christopher Schmidt > wrote: >> On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 05:18:47PM -070

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] RE: Representing Places With Intelligent URLs

2010-10-05 Thread Ian Turton
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Christopher Schmidt wrote: > On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 05:18:47PM -0700, Paul Ramsey wrote: >> "All attempts to construct simple ontologies end up reinventing RDF" .. ? > > That was actually my first thought when I saw this: "Hey look, > someone else reinventing RDFa!

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] RE: Representing Places With Intelligent URLs

2010-10-05 Thread Landon Blake
Chris, I'll look into rdfa. Thanks for the suggestion. Landon Sent from my iPhone On Oct 5, 2010, at 5:37 PM, "Christopher Schmidt" wrote: > Warning: Information provided via electronic media is not guaranteed against defects including translation and transmission errors. If the reader i

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] RE: Representing Places With Intelligent URLs

2010-10-05 Thread Christopher Schmidt
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 05:18:47PM -0700, Paul Ramsey wrote: > "All attempts to construct simple ontologies end up reinventing RDF" .. ? That was actually my first thought when I saw this: "Hey look, someone else reinventing RDFa!" :) Seriously, I say this with a bit of knowledge; I mean, after a

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] RE: Representing Places With Intelligent URLs

2010-10-05 Thread Tyler Mitchell
On 2010-10-05, at 5:32 PM, P Kishor wrote: > On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 7:17 PM, Landon Blake wrote: >> could be good for 80% of the world. > > I wouldn’t go that far... perhaps for 20% of the world, maybe perhaps. > > I personally know at least a couple of fairly large swaths of this > world where

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] RE: Representing Places With Intelligent URLs

2010-10-05 Thread Tyler Mitchell
hone Number: (209) 992-0658 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org > [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Schmidt > Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 5:12 PM > To: OSGeo Discussions > Subject: Re: [OSGeo

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] RE: Representing Places With Intelligent URLs

2010-10-05 Thread P Kishor
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 7:17 PM, Landon Blake wrote: > could be good for 80% of the world. I wouldn’t go that far... perhaps for 20% of the world, maybe perhaps. I personally know at least a couple of fairly large swaths of this world where no such (or any) structure would fly. -- Puneet Kisho

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] RE: Representing Places With Intelligent URLs

2010-10-05 Thread Michael P. Gerlek
-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Paul Ramsey Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 5:19 PM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] RE: Representing Places With Intelligent URLs "All attempts to construct simple ontologies end up reinventin

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] RE: Representing Places With Intelligent URLs

2010-10-05 Thread Landon Blake
ne Number: (209) 946-0268 Cell Phone Number: (209) 992-0658 -Original Message- From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 5:12 PM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] RE

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] RE: Representing Places With Intelligent URLs

2010-10-05 Thread Paul Ramsey
"All attempts to construct simple ontologies end up reinventing RDF" .. ? On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Christopher Schmidt wrote: > How about the fact that although some counties contain cities, > some cities exist over the border between multiple counties, and > other counties are *contained

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] RE: Representing Places With Intelligent URLs

2010-10-05 Thread Christopher Schmidt
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 05:03:14PM -0700, Michael P. Gerlek wrote: > > ...it would be easy to determine what the URL for... > > Alas, it is not clear to me that, even within the US, there is a universally > recognized canonicalization of the place name hierarchy, much less the names > themselves

[OSGeo-Discuss] RE: Representing Places With Intelligent URLs

2010-10-05 Thread Michael P. Gerlek
> ...it would be easy to determine what the URL for... Alas, it is not clear to me that, even within the US, there is a universally recognized canonicalization of the place name hierarchy, much less the names themselves. For example, you refer to "california", as opposed to "state_of_california