Re: Fw: [OSGeo-Discuss] Training and certification

2011-06-14 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 14/06/2011 07:07, nicholas.g.lawre...@tmr.qld.gov.au ha scritto: > How about making contact with an existing professional organisation > that specialises in providing training to the GIS community? > > Like URISA? Urban and Regional Information Systems Association > www.urisa.org > > or an or

Re: [OSGeo-Edu] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Training and certification

2011-06-13 Thread Bob Basques
All, My thoughts on the Incubation process (which are in the archives over the years) was generally that it was too big a step in many cases for projects to take. I've always wondered about some sort of process that could last much longer and with many more steps in it before being declared

Re: [OSGeo-Edu] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Training and certification

2011-06-12 Thread Jody Garnett
Interaction with other committees is separate to the the incubation process currently. I like the idea of the straight up reward system: - participation (provision of quick start etc gets you included on the live dvd) - provision of course materials perhaps could allow projects to participate in

Re: [OSGeo-Edu] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Training and certification

2011-06-12 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 12/06/2011 02:56, Mark Lucas ha scritto: > I was actually thinking of the reverse - incubation graduation would be > contingent on > getting on the OSGeo-Live disk. Agree it should be gradual, should start out > as a goal. I think now incubating and graduated project is not very obvious to

Re: [OSGeo-Edu] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Training and certification

2011-06-11 Thread Mark Lucas
On Jun 11, 2011, at 8:24 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote: > Mark, > Yes I agree that OSGeo-Live also provides a good framework for the periodic > review of projects beyond incubation. > > What we have on our side is: > 1. A periodic release schedule > 2. A valuable business driver which attracts proj

Re: [OSGeo-Edu] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Training and certification

2011-06-11 Thread Cameron Shorter
ts.osgeo.org> Cc: OSGeo-edu Subject: [OSGeo-Edu] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Training and certification I'm not going to weigh in on the certification question -- I don't understand the companies out there doing training and the issues raised by Cameron and others. Apologies in advance for a

Re: [OSGeo-Edu] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Training and certification

2011-06-11 Thread Mark Lucas
ps have been properly vetted >> and created. The Center would offer to sit with yourself and the OSGeo >> board at the forthcoming FOSS4G to discuss collaboration. >> >> Phil Davis >> Director and PI >> >> >>

Re: [OSGeo-Edu] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Training and certification

2011-06-11 Thread Cameron Shorter
arlie Schweik [cschw...@pubpol.umass.edu] Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 8:31 AM To: discuss@lists.osgeo.org Cc: OSGeo-edu Subject: [OSGeo-Edu] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Training and certification I'm not going to weigh in on the certification question -- I don't understand the companies out there

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Training and certification

2011-06-10 Thread Bob Basques
All, Sorry, I thought of another piece to this conversation that might stimulate the conversation. Here at the City we're currently pursuing a Public Works Accreditation for use of Best Practices. My question to the group would be, what would a theoretical response be from OSGEO on the qu

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Training and certification

2011-06-10 Thread Bob Basques
All, I'm liking this thread. Seems like a long time coming to tell the truth. I think this training aspect needs to happen no matter what. I'm still foggy on the details to implement, same as everyone else. It needs to be thought about in the context of moving projects as well as the OSGE

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Training and certification

2011-06-10 Thread Daniel Ames
I tend to agree with Cameron on this one. There is already the GISci certification process that we don't want to compete with. Plus which particular tools from the OSGeo stack would one be required to be proficient in to be "OSGeo Certified". I think that if a particular project wanted to create a

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Training and certification

2011-06-10 Thread Charlie Schweik
I'm not going to weigh in on the certification question -- I don't understand the companies out there doing training and the issues raised by Cameron and others. Apologies in advance for a long posting. But I find myself puzzling about how this is linked to universities (our edu group) and the

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Training and certification

2011-06-10 Thread Stephen Woodbridge
On 6/10/2011 3:08 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote: On 10/06/2011 4:07 PM, Paolo Cavallini wrote: Il 09/06/2011 21:38, Tyler Mitchell ha scritto: Anyone else thinking about this or want to weigh-in on what their thoughts were? If this competes with the activities the professionals and enterprises ar

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Training and certification

2011-06-10 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 10/06/2011 09:18, Tyler Mitchell ha scritto: > Stepping back, I wonder if maybe the high response on this survey question > more > reflects an innate need that some feel is not being currently met. That is, > how > wide really is the grasp of current trainers to meet the global demand? IMHO,

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Training and certification

2011-06-10 Thread Tyler Mitchell
I appreciate all these varied viewpoints, so keep them coming! It's not my recommendation, so I don't have anything to defend thankfully ;-) Stepping back, I wonder if maybe the high response on this survey question more reflects an innate need that some feel is not being currently met. That i

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Training and certification

2011-06-10 Thread Robert Szczepanek
W dniu 10.06.2011 08:44, Tyler Mitchell pisze: On 2011-06-09, at 11:07 PM, Paolo Cavallini wrote: Anyone else thinking about this or want to weigh-in on what their thoughts were? If this competes with the activities the professionals and enterprises are currently offering, -1. We want OSGeo t

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Training and certification

2011-06-10 Thread Cameron Shorter
On 10/06/2011 4:07 PM, Paolo Cavallini wrote: Il 09/06/2011 21:38, Tyler Mitchell ha scritto: Anyone else thinking about this or want to weigh-in on what their thoughts were? If this competes with the activities the professionals and enterprises are currently offering, -1. We want OSGeo to su

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Training and certification

2011-06-09 Thread Tyler Mitchell
On 2011-06-09, at 11:07 PM, Paolo Cavallini wrote: >> Anyone else thinking about this or want to weigh-in on what their thoughts >> were? > > If this competes with the activities the professionals and enterprises are > currently > offering, -1. We want OSGeo to support our work, not to compete w

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Training and certification

2011-06-09 Thread Tyler Mitchell
On 2011-06-09, at 11:00 PM, Chaitanya kumar CH wrote: > 3. To technically certify a product or application - (e.g. as a sort of > endorsement that the technology meets some OSGeo standard) > > I don't understand this. The following standards come to mind: Does the > product output OGC complian

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Training and certification

2011-06-09 Thread Andy Turner
3. To technically certify a product or application - (e.g. as a sort of endorsement that the technology meets some OSGeo standard) I don't understand this. The following standards come to mind: Does the product output OGC compliant data? Uses compatible versions and licenses? Maybe to do with

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Training and certification

2011-06-09 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 09/06/2011 21:38, Tyler Mitchell ha scritto: > Anyone else thinking about this or want to weigh-in on what their thoughts > were? If this competes with the activities the professionals and enterprises are currently offering, -1. We want OSGeo to support our work, not to compete with it. This

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Training and certification

2011-06-09 Thread Chaitanya kumar CH
Hi Tyler, On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 1:08 AM, Tyler Mitchell wrote: > 1. To lead training courses that may also come with a certificate or be > part of a larger program. (e.g. for users, developers, integrators to gain > personal knowledge and show it off, maybe in a GISP style?) > This was what I

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Training and certification

2011-06-09 Thread Mauricio Miranda
On Jun 9, 2011, at 16:38 PM, Tyler Mitchell wrote: > "Set up a professional training and certification program". > > Yes, it was a question short on details, but it was chosen a full 15% above > all other items. Now's the time to figure out what we all meant ;-) What about the model that the