Re: [slim] Meridian MQA - Breakthrough? LMS possible?

2014-12-05 Thread Mnyb
I agree wth the statements re recording quality . So wake me up when we routinely gets music released that actualy has intrisinic sq beyound the humble cd :) When the world has changed and all music has the same sq as those very few audiophile recordings that achive this AND with real music

Re: [slim] Meridian MQA - Breakthrough? LMS possible?

2014-12-05 Thread Wombat
I really can't find why MQA betters timing and other things. How i read it it simply is a streaming format that keeps bit depth and HF content needed for what HiRes is touted. So for a bitrate of 1MBit/s it may store bits 1-13 lossless and peels away HF content that is of no use. So PCM 24/192 in

Re: [slim] Meridian MQA - Breakthrough? LMS possible?

2014-12-05 Thread netchord
cliveb wrote: > Nice of you to ignore everything else I said (for which you presumably > have no answer). > > You're right, I've not heard MQA. I have no need to. > > Look: the world is full of basic understanding about all manner of > things, backed up by plenty of empirical evidence. And ther

Re: [slim] Sonos users - does Sonos pick up LMS playlists ?

2014-12-05 Thread castalla
philippe_44 wrote: > argh ... I've not compiled it for an ARM device. Linux x86 or Windows. > But the very important thing to know is that it DOES NOT NEED to run of > the same machine than the LMS server. You can use any computer in your > network running Linux or Windows. If it does not work fo

Re: [slim] Sonos users - does Sonos pick up LMS playlists ?

2014-12-05 Thread philippe_44
castalla wrote: > That sounds good. > > So which version would I use for Debian on an arm7 machine? argh ... I've not compiled it for an ARM device. Linux x86 or Windows. But the very important thing to know is that it DOES NOT NEED to run of the same machine than the LMS server. You can use

Re: [slim] Sonos users - does Sonos pick up LMS playlists ?

2014-12-05 Thread castalla
philippe_44 wrote: > ouch ... I'm sorry it looks complicated, this is certainly not the > objective. Seriously, for a Sonos system, you have 1 parameter to set, > launch it and here you go. There is really nothing to do. I've included > a config file that should work with your Sonos. Grab the app

Re: [slim] Sonos users - does Sonos pick up LMS playlists ?

2014-12-05 Thread philippe_44
castalla wrote: > Thanks. > > I've looked at your app - but it is so horrendously complicated to > implement that I'm lost! > > I'm not sure about the LMS/upnp plugin and playlists - they certainly > don't appear on any of the upnp clients I've tried. ouch ... I'm sorry it looks complicated, t

Re: [slim] Meridian MQA - Breakthrough? LMS possible?

2014-12-05 Thread Apesbrain
ctbarker32 wrote: > The CD system is based on samples of an analog sound that is "sampled" > at a defined rate and then the original sound is reconstructed at > playback by a DAC that inserts misssing bits to complete the > reconstruction? Sounds Lossy to me? Maybe semantics but the DAC redraws t

Re: [slim] Sonos users - does Sonos pick up LMS playlists ?

2014-12-05 Thread castalla
philippe_44 wrote: > I've not tried, but this is probably true if you activate the LMS plugin > that turns it into a uPNP server. I've personally taken a different > route on my system made of mainly Logitech, but a bit of Sonos and other > uPnP players : I've developped this app that turns any u

Re: [slim] Sonos users - does Sonos pick up LMS playlists ?

2014-12-05 Thread philippe_44
castalla wrote: > Sonos claim that playlists can be accessed by their devices. > > Can anyone confirm that their Sonos 'sees' and plays LMS playlists? I've not tried, but this is probably true if you active the LMS plugin that turns it to a uPNP server. I've personally taken a different toute o

[slim] Sonos users - does Sonos pick up LMS playlists ?

2014-12-05 Thread castalla
Sonos claim that playlists can be accessed by their devices. Can anyone confirm that their Sonos 'sees' and plays LMS playlists? Touch - Muse M50 EX TPA3123 T-Amp Mini - Acoustics Q10 speakers Logitech Radio Logitech UE Smart Radio Raspberry Pi + Squeezeplug LMS + Squeezelite - Logitech Mini B

Re: [slim] Meridian MQA - Breakthrough? LMS possible?

2014-12-05 Thread garym
CommanderROR wrote: > While this sounds interesing, it does not (IMHO) fix the real problem, > which occurs during recording. Couldn't agree more. The problems with a lot of recorded music these days is in the mixes and lack of dynamic compression (aka "the loudness wars"). A different lossless

Re: [slim] Meridian MQA - Breakthrough? LMS possible?

2014-12-05 Thread pippin
If you can reconstruct the original information, it's not lossy. Lossy codecs don't reconstruct the missing information. If it's not reconstructing irrelevant information, like ultrasonic sound you can probably discuss to eternity but the codec then is technically lossy. A/D or D/A conversion is n

Re: [slim] Meridian MQA - Breakthrough? LMS possible?

2014-12-05 Thread ctbarker32
cliveb wrote: > When it's played on a legacy device without the decoder, stuff is > "missing". That's lossy in my book. Using your definition doesn't that include all digital audio systems known to date. The CD system is based on samples of an analog sound that is "sampled" at a defined rate and

Re: [slim] Meridian MQA - Breakthrough? LMS possible?

2014-12-05 Thread cliveb
ctbarker32 wrote: > From my further reading, I think it is incorrect to describe MQA as a > lossy format as is currently understood e.g. MP3 vs FLAC/ALAC. > > It would appear that MQA is as much to do about audio timing information > as it is about frequency information? I'm thinking along the l

Re: [slim] Meridian MQA - Breakthrough? LMS possible?

2014-12-05 Thread cliveb
netchord wrote: > which you know because you've heard it? Nice of you to ignore everything else I said (for which you presumably have no answer). You're right, I've not heard MQA. I have no need to. Look: the world is full of basic understanding about all manner of things, backed up by plenty o

Re: [slim] Meridian MQA - Breakthrough? LMS possible?

2014-12-05 Thread ctbarker32
>From my further reading, I think it is incorrect to describe MQA as a lossy format as is currently understood e.g. MP3 vs FLAC/ALAC. It would appear that MQA is as much to do about audio timing information as it is about frequency information? I'm thinking along the lines of Time Aligned Speaker

Re: [slim] Meridian MQA - Breakthrough? LMS possible?

2014-12-05 Thread netchord
cliveb wrote: > > > MQA is another solution in search of a problem, and gullible audiofools > are going to lap it up just because it's Meridian. If Microsoft or Sony > had come up with this, it would have been laughed at for the smoke & > mirrors it is. which you know because you've heard it?

Re: [slim] Meridian MQA - Breakthrough? LMS possible?

2014-12-05 Thread cliveb
netchord wrote: > see Virus Killer's post here: > > http://www.meridianunplugged.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=225234#Post225234 > > everything you need to know. > > it is truly a paradigm shift. Hmmm. A few quotes from VirusKiller's post: > the "compression" applied to th

Re: [slim] Meridian MQA - Breakthrough? LMS possible?

2014-12-05 Thread pippin
I think it's actually a pretty clever move. Use high sample rates so that you can tell people you are really high definition but just throw away all that useless information about the pink noise in the ultrasonic frequency ranges. All the HD-marketing bang for CD-quality bandwidth-bucks. All fine

Re: [slim] Meridian MQA - Breakthrough? LMS possible?

2014-12-05 Thread CommanderROR
While this sounds interesing, it does not (IMHO) fix the real problem, which occurs during recording. So much music, especially classical music, is already crippled with auto-gain, bad mic placement (too close, too far, too many, too few) and similar issues. All that information that gets thrown a

Re: [slim] Meridian MQA - Breakthrough? LMS possible?

2014-12-05 Thread netchord
see Virus Killer's post here: http://www.meridianunplugged.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=225234#Post225234 everything you need to know. it is truly a paradigm shift. -- 4 TB Drobo-->FW 800-->mac mini-->Ethernet Transporter--> Wireworld Eclipse 6 coax-->Meridian G61 G61-->

Re: [slim] Announcement - ickStream open beta release on Squeezebox !

2014-12-05 Thread pippin
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Re: [slim] Announcement - ickStream open beta release on Squeezebox !

2014-12-05 Thread Michael Herger
Hi, Tidal is only available in UK and USA. If you live in Germany you can't get it yet. Just use WiMP Hifi instead. -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss

Re: [slim] Announcement - ickStream open beta release on Squeezebox !

2014-12-05 Thread johnas
Webkemmi wrote: > How can I create a Tidal trial account? > If I enter my mail address on http://getlossless.com I just can join the > Tidal mailing list - see screenshot.] Hi, Tidal is only available in UK and USA. If you live in Germany you can't get it yet. ---

Re: [slim] Announcement - ickStream open beta release on Squeezebox !

2014-12-05 Thread Webkemmi
How can I create a Tidal trial account? If I enter my mail address on http://getlossless.com I just can join the Tidal mailing list - see screenshot. I already installed the ickstream Plugin on my LMS 7.9 but since I do not get any Tidal credentials, I can't give it a try. Thanks Stefan 16861

Re: [slim] Meridian MQA - Breakthrough? LMS possible?

2014-12-05 Thread cliveb
Hot air. Absolutely NOT a breakthrough. Just another proprietary format in a world already awash in more audibly-transparent formats than it needs. See http://www.hydrogenaud.io/forums/index.php?showtopic=107666 Transporter -> ATC SCM100A ---