Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community

2017-05-10 Thread iPhone
philippe_44 wrote: > Sonos is totally secretive about their streaming protocol, so this > cannot be done . . That was my thought also, but I didn't know if it was actual fact, now I know, thanks. With Sonos it is usually easier to "Assume" it can't be done because of closed private software

Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community

2017-05-10 Thread philippe_44
iPhone wrote: > No. Sonos is mainly speakers. They have a display-less standalone box > that acts like a Squeezebox by letting you connect this Sonos box to a > pre-amp or receiver to feed content to your home stereo system. > Squeezeboxes are feed over the local network by a Server or Internet

Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community

2017-05-10 Thread Pascal Hibon
raven22 wrote: > Not that is is bad but I settled with players from MUSAIC. I hope they provide you as much joy as Squeezebox did. A friend of mine had a very bad experience with Simple Audio. He bought a Roomplayer for about 800 Euro (new) only to find out that the company went bankrupt a

Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community

2017-05-10 Thread iPhone
wilgartw wrote: > i suppose my question is can i do it the other way round. if i buy a > sonos, and this allows me to keep my spotify account going forward, can > i then use the output from a sonos to feed into my existing SB devices. > i realise that the synchronisation will not be there but

Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community

2017-05-10 Thread wilgartw
philippe_44 wrote: > You can use UPnPBridge to stream from LMS to Sonos. I've also made a > Chromecast and an Airplay bridge to help smooth (as much as possible) > integration between LMS and these systems i suppose my question is can i do it the other way round. if i buy a sonos, and this

Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community

2017-05-08 Thread iPhone
raven22 wrote: > I decided to switch systems as well. A Spotify family account is not > easy to implement and does not give you all the Spotify options. > Tried Sonos but was not very impressed by the sound quality. Not that is > is bad but I settled with players from MUSAIC. Their players have

Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community

2017-05-08 Thread raven22
I decided to switch systems as well. A Spotify family account is not easy to implement and does not give you all the Spotify options. Tried Sonos but was not very impressed by the sound quality. Not that is is bad but I settled with players from MUSAIC. Their players have besides a quite good

Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community

2017-04-26 Thread philippe_44
wilgartw wrote: > > i have been trying to workout a way of phasing my approach, streaming > from sonos to SB or vice versa. i assume this cannot be done. You can use UPnPBridge to stream from LMS to Sonos LMS 7.7, 7.8 and 7.9 - 5xRadio, 3xBoom, 4xDuet, 1xTouch, 1 SB2. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5,

Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community

2017-04-25 Thread wilgartw
exile wrote: > thanks to those that think the thread is helpful. thanks for this thread i am in the same boat. i use spotify, BBC iplayer and my own music library. I have 3 x duets and a SBRadio. i can handle the occasional evening or two without one of the services, but my girlfriend

Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community

2017-04-21 Thread iPhone
exile wrote: > thanks to those that think the thread is helpful. > > Arniceous, much of what you said originally was misleading and that's > the annoying part. Sonos isn't an open source product like LMS but it's > also not a closed product like itunes or Apple products. It's not an > Apple

Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community

2017-04-21 Thread Lennyd
I have 2 SBB's and I love them. But when Logitech dropped Sirius/XM I knew I would eventually have to switch. I use the Squeezebox app on my Ipad and that works fine. I never was into LMS. It was too much of a hassle. So I bought into the Sonos system and the app is very easy to use. The units

Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community

2017-04-21 Thread Lennyd
bb1959 wrote: > Paragraphs were invented for a reason but I don't even think that would > have helped. That was too hard to read. I can't understand run on sentences. It drives me crazy. Lennyd's Profile:

Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community

2017-01-11 Thread Arniceous
:) im glad its working for the best -LMS 7.7.2 | AS-604T | WiFi Radio x 3 | DLNA x 5- Arniceous's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62899 View this thread:

Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community

2017-01-11 Thread exile
thanks to those that think the thread is helpful. Arniceous, much of what you said originally was misleading and that's the annoying part. Sonos isn't an open source product like LMS but it's also not a closed product like itunes or Apple products. It's not an Apple product and it really doesn't

Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community

2017-01-11 Thread pablolie
garym wrote: > Yep, I use spotify playlists all the time (my own and spotify official > lists). I'm using the logitech official app/plugin along with the SPH > plugin, and playing to transporter, boom, touch, and radio. What I really meant -but misworded- is that I have not found a way to

Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community

2017-01-10 Thread Arniceous
exile wrote: > slightly annoying but whatever. > > the point of this thread was first and foremost to thank this community > because it has served me well for over a decade and secondarily I wanted > to say that I switched to sonos because I have abandoned localized music > files for a

Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community

2017-01-10 Thread bb1959
Dogberry2 wrote: > I don't see how anybody could. Can't even tell what language it is! Paragraphs were invented for a reason but I don't even think that would have helped. bb1959's Profile:

Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community

2017-01-10 Thread Dogberry2
Grumpy Bob wrote: > I can't quite understand Arniceous' post! > Robert I don't see how anybody could. Can't even tell what language it is! Dogberry2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18883 View

Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community

2017-01-09 Thread Grumpy Bob
I can't quite understand Arniceous' post! Exile - I think there is a considerable appeal in the Sonos approach to music streaming, and it has been interesting to hear your motivation for the switch, and your experiences. Robert *Home: *Raspberry Pi 3/piCoreplayer/LMS7.9 with files on QNAP

Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community

2017-01-09 Thread exile
Arniceous wrote: > just chiming in... slightly annoying but whatever. the point of this thread was first and foremost to thank this community because it has served me well for over a decade and secondarily I wanted to say that I switched to sonos because I have abandoned localized music files

Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community

2017-01-09 Thread Arniceous
just chiming in... Sonos had One Store only in Santa Barbara , CA they supposedly opened a store in Manhattan, NY but more disturbingly to me is now also available in apple stores . I personally hate anything to do with apple wow dude you got to be kidding me I took a look at Sono's Magical

Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community

2017-01-09 Thread exile
SlimChances wrote: > I got 4/6 with my crappy computer monitor speakers. The results of the test indicate that most people can't tell the difference: http://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2015/06/09/412271433/audio-quality-quiz-results-you-did-slightly-better-than-guessing-randomly

Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community

2017-01-09 Thread SlimChances
exile wrote: > here's a fun test: > http://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2015/06/02/411473508/how-well-can-you-hear-audio-quality > > I have audioengine A2 speakers attached to my computer and I was able to > get 4 out of 6 correct but even that level of accuracy leads me to > believe that

Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community

2017-01-09 Thread exile
here's a fun test: http://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2015/06/02/411473508/how-well-can-you-hear-audio-quality I have audioengine A2 speakers attached to my computer and I was able to get 4 out of 6 correct but even that level of accuracy leads me to believe that it's very hard to tell the

Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community

2017-01-08 Thread Grumpy Bob
exile wrote: > yes, that's the trade off with sonos. no display screen but it has > volume control on the top of each speaker and it has most of the same > features as squeeze ( i.e., alarms, sleep timer, etc.) so losing the > display screen isn't such a big sacrifice to me. Yes, definitely the

Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community

2017-01-08 Thread exile
quadronado wrote: > > It's seems if nowadays you have to use a shitty app or at least a > touchscreen for almost everything. I don't really want this at home. yes, that's the trade off with sonos. no display screen but it has volume control on the top of each speaker and it has most of the

Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community

2017-01-08 Thread satkinsn
I still have my SB 3 - and use it some - with my main/family room stereo, an NAD receiver, a set of PSB speakers, an Oppo universal player. That said, my daughter bought me a set of Sonos Play:1 speakers for my 60th birthday and it utterly changed my listening life. I suppose if you have very,

Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community

2017-01-08 Thread quadronado
Grumpy Bob wrote: > Interested by your comments re Squeezebox Radio - the features I need > are all hardware features: a display, buttons to preset with playlists, > hardware volume control, and a hardware navigation through the music > collection and radio stations...for bedside and kitchen use

Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community

2017-01-07 Thread Grumpy Bob
exile wrote: > To clarify, the Sonos Connect is basically the equivalent of a > squeezebox but with no display screen. Most of the other Sonos products > are a hybrid speaker and wireless streaming device and again none of the > Sonos products have display screens. You can buy the Sonos speakers

Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community

2017-01-07 Thread exile
Grumpy Bob wrote: > Likewise unfamiliar with Sonos, but I do believe it has a unit designed > to be connected to a separate amplifier/speakers (maybe it's the > Connect?). I think if I switched to Sonos, that's what I'd go for, but I > think I'd miss having an equivalent to the Squeezebox Radio.

Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community

2017-01-07 Thread garym
Yep, I use spotify playlists all the time (my own and spotify official lists). I'm using the logitech official app/plugin along with the SPH plugin, and playing to transporter, boom, touch, and radio. *Home:* VortexBox 4TB (2.3) > LMS 7.8 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet)

Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community

2017-01-07 Thread Man in a van
pablolie wrote: > Spotify is 320k - if one configures high quality streaming under options > - which sounds plenty good. A well-implemented 320k MP3 stream will > pretty much be CD quality, and the vast majority of people won't be able > to tell it apart from a FLAC stream (I can only do so for

Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community

2017-01-07 Thread pablolie
Spotify is 320k - if one configures high quality streaming under options - which sounds plenty good. A well-implemented 320k MP3 stream will pretty much be CD quality, and the vast majority of people won't be able to tell it apart from a FLAC stream (I can only do so for a very few tracks that

Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community

2017-01-07 Thread SlimChances
Grumpy Bob wrote: > Likewise unfamiliar with Sonos, but I do believe it has a unit designed > to be connected to a separate amplifier/speakers (maybe it's the > Connect?). . > > RobertRight that makes more sense Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.0 - 1480516903 @ Wed Nov 30 15:10:50 UTC

Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community

2017-01-06 Thread Grumpy Bob
SlimChances wrote: > Not completely familiar with Sonos other than my neighbour's system > which seems to consist of a single speaker about the size of coffee mug. > I don't think that produces anywhere the fidelity of my mid range stereo > system. I don't see how it could produce decent sound

Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community

2017-01-06 Thread SlimChances
exile wrote: > spotify on sonos streams 320kbps OGG. > > I'll preface this by saying I'm not a serious audiophile but I've > noticed no difference between my squeezebox flac playback and the sonos > spotify streams. Not completely familiar with Sonos other than my neighbour's system which

Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community

2017-01-06 Thread exile
spotify on sonos streams 320kbps OGG. I'll preface this by saying I'm not a serious audiophile but I've noticed no difference between my squeezebox flac playback and the sonos spotify streams. exile's Profile:

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2017-01-06 Thread norderney
Is Spotify still restricted to MP3 format? I assume Spotify still does not support lossless formats such as FLAC or even hi res? Main Source: Transporter Amp: Cyrus 8XPd QX Speakers: PMC twenty:23 CD/HDD Recorder: Alesis Masterlink ML-9600 http://www.last.fm/user/norderney1962

Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community

2017-01-06 Thread exile
Squeezemenicely wrote: > The only bad thing is, the Sonos community is so boring compared to ours Ha! So true and maybe that's partly why I resisted switching to Sonos for so long. On the plus side, Sonos does work fine with Flac files but with the transition to streaming as my primary source

Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community

2017-01-06 Thread Julf
hagensieker wrote: > Still every service I use has an app. Yes, that is annoying, but I guess it is how vendors want it - lock-in into *their* app, rather than something that can be integrated. :( "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high

Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community

2017-01-06 Thread Squeezemenicely
Hi Exile, if Spotify is what you listen to, I can completely understand you crossing over to the dark side ;-) The ease of use on Sonos and the reliability are great for that, friend of mine has Sonos and I never get a call that something is not working, whilst two friends that I got started on

Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community

2017-01-05 Thread hagensieker
Whatever works for you is what is best for you:D I've thought a couple times LMS had a foot in the grave. I almost bailed when MOG went bye bye. I thought that was the beginning of the end. Then when the Triode Spotify app seemed broken I just knew it was over. Then Spotify got fixed and

Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community

2017-01-05 Thread exile
To each his own as they say... Give Spotify or one of the other services a try. Those 64,000 tracks are a drop in the bucket to what is available through streaming. exile's Profile:

Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community

2017-01-05 Thread norderney
I am a very happy Transporter/iPeng user. My Transporter is now about 10 years old. Where did that time go? Seems like yesterday when I was taking it out the box and installing it on my HiFi rack. I have over 64,000 FLAC tracks stored on my server hard drive. I think that alone would prevent me

Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community

2017-01-01 Thread exile
thanks for the chromecast suggestion but I've already converted to Sonos. Also, i should've added that I'm happy to sell my Squeezebox collection: 2 squeezebox 2's 2 squeezebox 3's 1 pogoplug running as a wired squeezebox 1 remote

Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community

2016-12-28 Thread bernt
Sonos have Spotify Connect now so you can use the native Spotify client. If I only going to use Spotify a Chromecast Audio is a good and cheap option. SB Touch to Yamaha A-S501, Boston Acoustics A26. SB 3 to Audio Pro T3. SB BOOM SB Radio ReadyNAS 202 iPeng

Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community

2016-12-28 Thread exile
i know that for many others out there the LMS/Spotify partnership is great so I can only speak to my own experience. my system was two squeezebox3's and two squeezebox2's with a dedicated mac mini server running on a fast (average of 90mbps) wireless network, I ran into recurring problems

Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community

2016-12-28 Thread Julf
Just have to ask how Sonos works better with Spotify? I am a very happy LMS/Spotify user, and wondering if I am missing out on something... "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that

[slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community

2016-12-28 Thread exile
So after more than a decade of dedicated squeezeboxen life I find myself moving onto a Sonos system. Therefore, I simply want to thank this entire community because it's the folks here on this forum that made my squeezebox audio listening experience so rewarding. The true power of the squeeze