Re: [slim] Album Sorting - Confusion, Flaws, and an unclear path forward

2008-11-27 Thread Phil Meyer
-Every single file has a defined ARTISTSORT, ALBUMSORT, and ALBUMARTIST tag, along with the expected standard title, artist, track, disc, etc. No compilation tags exist I don't understand - you have album artists and no compilations, but you talk about compilation albums not being displayed

Re: [slim] Album Sorting - Confusion, Flaws, and an unclear path forward

2008-11-27 Thread Phil Meyer
Some other questions that will help identify your problem: 1. What version of SqueezeCenter are you using? 2. Have you done a full rescan after playing with the SC library setting options? 3. What type of file tags have you stored in your FLAC files? I'd recommend that you try openening some

Re: [slim] Album Sorting - Confusion, Flaws, and an unclear path forward

2008-11-27 Thread Phil Meyer
Also, browse into the album in the WebUI, and look at all of the information that it lists on the screen. Also look at a specific song for song information. Check that it really does say Album Artist: U2, for example. ___ discuss mailing list

Re: [slim] Album Sorting - Confusion, Flaws, and an unclear path forward

2008-11-24 Thread slimkid
AndrewFG;362266 Wrote: This may be a bit OT, but from reading this thread it seems that most people are concerned with libraries of modern music where ALBUM, ARTIST and ALBUM_ARTIST are the parameters for sorting. Perhaps unlike you guys, I also have a significant classical library. And

Re: [slim] Album Sorting - Confusion, Flaws, and an unclear path forward

2008-11-23 Thread Listener
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Re: [slim] Album Sorting - Confusion, Flaws, and an unclear path forward

2008-11-21 Thread Random Lurker
Per another thread: snarlydwarf;303382 Wrote: SC merges ARTIST and ARTISTSORT as part of the scan process. A single file with ARTISTSORT will set the sort order for every occurence of that artist. (Ie, it makes no distinction between Elvis Costello's with and without sorts defined... if

Re: [slim] Album Sorting - Confusion, Flaws, and an unclear path forward

2008-11-21 Thread snarlydwarf
Random Lurker;362235 Wrote: Per another thread: If it is true that 1 instance of an ARTISTSORT tag can set the value for that artist across the board, I can see a problem: -Library has 1 soundtrack album with multiple artists, ARTISTSORT tag is set to soundtracks (or any other value)

Re: [slim] Album Sorting - Confusion, Flaws, and an unclear path forward

2008-11-21 Thread Random Lurker
snarlydwarf;362236 Wrote: Well that would be severely mistagged then. GENRE would be a much better tag (yes, I know Soundtracks is not a Genre per se, but especially combined with multiple genre tags makes browsing useful.. want to find a Soundtrack, look under Genre=Soundtrack. I do this,

Re: [slim] Album Sorting - Confusion, Flaws, and an unclear path forward

2008-11-21 Thread AndrewFG
This may be a bit OT, but from reading this thread it seems that most people are concerned with libraries of modern music where ALBUM, ARTIST and ALBUM_ARTIST are the parameters for sorting. Perhaps unlike you guys, I also have a significant classical library. And in such cases you might have

Re: [slim] Album Sorting - Confusion, Flaws, and an unclear path forward

2008-11-21 Thread snarlydwarf
AndrewFG;362266 Wrote: This may be a bit OT, but from reading this thread it seems that most people are concerned with libraries of modern music where ALBUM, ARTIST and ALBUM_ARTIST are the parameters for sorting. Probably true.. Classical tagging is a black art. Perhaps unlike you guys,

Re: [slim] Album Sorting - Confusion, Flaws, and an unclear path forward

2008-11-21 Thread CatBus
Random Lurker;362243 Wrote: It is just frustrating because I have other existing setups that provide exactly the behavior I want based on tags I have carefully scrubbed - and I can't even achieve that behavior in SC even by adding tags. I think the CustomScan and CustomBrowse plugins

[slim] Album Sorting - Confusion, Flaws, and an unclear path forward

2008-11-20 Thread Random Lurker
A little background: My music library is just about 1 terabyte. Most of it consists of FLAC files, which I have very carefully ripped and tagged. I also have some older MP3 files, some from sources such as eMusic, where I had an unlimited account, other from my earlier ripping days when drive

Re: [slim] Album Sorting - Confusion, Flaws, and an unclear path forward

2008-11-20 Thread CatBus
Random Lurker;361933 Wrote: other albums I have in my library by U2 do not appear under the letter U - rather they are randomly displayed in the Various Artist section. Let's stop right there, one thing at a time. As far as I know, there is NOTHING in the various artists logic that would

Re: [slim] Album Sorting - Confusion, Flaws, and an unclear path forward

2008-11-20 Thread Random Lurker
CatBus;361970 Wrote: Let's stop right there, one thing at a time. As far as I know, there is NOTHING in the various artists logic that would cause an album to show up under Various Artists when every track on that album is tagged with the exact same artist. So let's start there and once

Re: [slim] Album Sorting - Confusion, Flaws, and an unclear path forward

2008-11-20 Thread idowantapickle
Random Lurker;361974 Wrote: I realize it should be simple - that's why it bugs me. Picking 2 of the U2 albums in question - indeed, every single track has the exact same ARTIST, ALBUMARTIST, and ARTISTSORT : U2. Yet they do not appear sorted in the U's. Was there not an issue a while

Re: [slim] Album Sorting - Confusion, Flaws, and an unclear path forward

2008-11-20 Thread CatBus
I'd file a bug then. This should work, and I'd go so far as to say this DOES work for almost everyone, so the good news is that it's probably something very very simple that's not going to come out until someone asks the right question. You're likely going to need to provide some scanner logs

Re: [slim] Album Sorting - Confusion, Flaws, and an unclear path forward

2008-11-20 Thread Random Lurker
idowantapickle;361983 Wrote: Was there not an issue a while back that if the first time the scanner encountered an artist it used that artistsort for all subsequesnt tags for that artist? So for example, I couldn't figure out why Fleetwood Mac were appearing under 'B' in my artists list.

Re: [slim] Album Sorting - Confusion, Flaws, and an unclear path forward

2008-11-20 Thread CatBus
FWIW I have compilations with ARTISTSORT tags defined for the artists, and I have other non-compilation albums by the same artist, and do not see these issues. I think it's a red herring. It may matter of two ARTISTSORT tags for the same ARTIST don't match, perhaps. -- CatBus

Re: [slim] Album Sorting - Confusion, Flaws, and an unclear path forward

2008-11-20 Thread idowantapickle
this is the thread I was thinking of: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47830highlight=artistsort 4th post down. -- idowantapickle idowantapickle's Profile:

Re: [slim] Album Sorting - Confusion, Flaws, and an unclear path forward

2008-11-20 Thread MrSinatra
another question i had reading this, is does the controller use artistsort tags? i know on the controller itself you can pick albums sort method, but i don't have any sort tags, so i don't know if it uses them or is supposed to. one thing i've noticed is that settings for SC, SBs, and SBCs are