Feedback has started its new run on Radio 4, and I just listened to last
week's episode (June 19th). At 20:10 is a piece on "the glorious future
of digital listening", which is supposed to be an ongoing feature with
listeners comments on what the BBC is doing. Technology specialist
Stewart Miles p
ChipMonk wrote:
> Hence why the BBC might be a little more circumspect in future. But hey,
> I'm letting my inner optimist get the better of me - in truth nowt will
> change. The BBC has its 5 year plan, regardless of outcomes, and the
> Conservatives have their prejudices, regardless of outcomes
I doubt that oft-repeated phrase 'lessons have been learnt' will apply,
since they don't seem to think they did much wrong.
As to HMG, I don't think any of them will have noticed, or if they did
they'll have forgotten. The future of the Beeb is an ideological issue.
I still believe in it (not
castalla wrote:
> I don't think they give a flying F about this, other than to use as
> ammunition to break-up the BBC.
Hence why the BBC might be a little more circumspect in future. But hey,
I'm letting my inner optimist get the better of me - in truth nowt will
change. The BBC has its 5 year
And sorry I should have also said thank you for pushing this PasTim ..
appreciate the effort
As far as the BBC learning from it mistakes, taking a look at how they
are breaking iPlayer apps on Kodi and other 3rd party systems at the
moment gives me no confidence at all!
The only positive is ..
ChipMonk wrote:
> Not least because, as a result of our efforts, quite a number of
> influential people in the current all Conservative government may now
> have this on their list of BBC travesties for consideration at a future
> date.
I don't think they give a flying F about this, other than
Thanks to all for the responses. My inclination was not to proceed any
further, and I'm glad to see so many agree. I'll let it drop. The
complete final correspondence is attached if anyone is interested.
+---+
|Filename: 2015-06-
PasTim wrote:
> I guess so.
>
> No one else have a view? I have until 18th June to apply.
Well done PasTim and many thanks for continuing so steadfastly with this
issue. Sadly, I have to agree that it really isn't worth trying to take
this particular issue any further. We're not going to cha
Yes I too sadly have to agree... really frustrating but save our
strength for the next battles :-(
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PasTim wrote:
> I guess so.
>
> No one else have a view? I have until 18th June to apply.
Sadly, I think it's not worth pursuing. Save your strength for the next
battle ...
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ftlight wrote:
> At this point I'd say you've taken it as far as makes sense. I think
> anything after this would be unproductive.
I guess so.
No one else have a view? I have until 18th June to apply.
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At this point I'd say you've taken it as far as makes sense. I think
anything after this would be unproductive.
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I have had a response to my 'stage 2' appeal from the BBC.
Unsurprisingly they have decided to reject it and not forward it to the
trustees. The substance of the response is the usual bureaucratic
verbiage. I think it means that it's none of the Trusts's business how
the BBC is run.
Is it worth
utgg wrote:
> The BBC iPlayer app on android uses a single Nitro api key, which is
> pretty easy to find out. So I guess your comment about a DDOS type
> attack could apply to that key. As that one is under the BBC's control,
> I suppose they probably allow nearly unlimited access though.
So I u
bpa wrote:
> From the BBC Nitro Public License
> https://developer.bbc.co.uk/nitropubliclicence
>
>
> If plugin developer uses a single key for a Plugin then BBC will
> aggregate all uses of the key by all users and so developer could never
> control the frequency or number of times the plugin
drmatt wrote:
> Seems likely they should be able to cope with providing keys that will
> be used this way - distributed to many users.
Don't think so - BBC are thinking "app" as in Android or IOS and not
Plugin.
More details on Rate limiting from the developers doc. - the concept of
" your volu
Seems likely they should be able to cope with providing keys that will
be used this way - distributed to many users.
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>From the BBC Nitro Public License
https://developer.bbc.co.uk/nitropubliclicence
>
> To access BBC Nitro, you will first need to register and create an app
> at developer.bbc.co.uk. The BBC will then provide you with an electronic
> access key that will make certain features of BBC Nitro availab
This page has a pdf "Nitro for Clients" which will hopefullly make sense
to the developers here:
https://developer.bbc.co.uk/file/5
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utgg wrote:
> I wonder if the xml feeds Triode's plugin currently uses fall under the
> Dynamite system they say is about to be retired in June. Are we in the
> category of "ItÂ’s also possible that there are unauthorized &
> unidentified 3rd party apps & services that use Dynamite; these will
> s
ftlight wrote:
> News on BBC Nitro, just posted on the Internet Blog:
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/internet/entries/bc82562e-ea9d-4655-982d-e6219b2c877b
>
> Some hope, perhaps:
>
> "Access to Nitro is provided via an API key. This determines the quota
> (number of requests allowed in a given
ftlight wrote:
> After our (well-justified) ranting about the fiasco, I suppose it
> wouldn't hurt to be supportive now.
>
> I looked at the "BBC Nitro Public Licence" link and found this:
>
> "How can I use BBC Nitro?
>
> "You may: copy and use BBC Programme Metadata on your website, in your
PasTim wrote:
> Should one of us show polite and encouraging interest by commenting??
After our (well-justified) ranting about the fiasco, I suppose it
wouldn't hurt to be supportive now.
I looked at the "BBC Nitro Public Licence" link and found this:
"How can I use BBC Nitro?
"You may: copy
ftlight wrote:
> News on BBC Nitro, just posted on the Internet Blog:
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/internet/entries/bc82562e-ea9d-4655-982d-e6219b2c877b
>
> Some hope, perhaps:
>
> "Access to Nitro is provided via an API key. This determines the quota
> (number of requests allowed in a given
News on BBC Nitro, just posted on the Internet Blog:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/internet/entries/bc82562e-ea9d-4655-982d-e6219b2c877b
Some hope, perhaps:
"Access to Nitro is provided via an API key. This determines the quota
(number of requests allowed in a given time interval) that each
develo
shoshani wrote:
> This is unrelated to the BBC fiasco directly, yet in an unrelated sense
> probably bears careful attention because I have a feeling this is where
> the BBC will be going within a few years:
>
> http://www.theverge.com/2015/4/19/8453165/norway-end-fm-radio-2017
>
> Key quote is
This is unrelated to the BBC fiasco directly, yet in an unrelated sense
probably bears careful attention because I have a feeling this is where
the BBC will be going within a few years:
http://www.theverge.com/2015/4/19/8453165/norway-end-fm-radio-2017
Key quote is at the end: "Norway's FM shutd
castalla wrote:
> Well, it obvious that the discussion will continue in the new series of
> W1A starting next week.
>
> It's all good.
THE LOVE! I FEEL IT!
BTW, anyone else have any trouble yesterday and today with R2 and R3
intermittently cutting out for long annoying stretches on the online
castalla wrote:
> Well, it obvious that the discussion will continue in the new series of
> W1A starting next week.
>
> It's all good.
:)
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d6jg wrote:
> I see that over at the BBC Internet Blog the comments have now been
> closed.
>
> Does this mean Mr Scott is about to post a new blog entry ? No. I doubt
> it as well.
> Its a month to the day since his original post - auto expiry of comments
> ? More likely.
> Or was castalla a n
I see that over at the BBC Internet Blog the comments have now been
closed.
Does this mean Mr Scott is about to post a new blog entry ? No. I doubt
it as well.
Its a month to the day since his original post - auto expiry of comments
? More likely.
Or was castalla a naughty boy and posted once to
garym wrote:
> Thousands of Jeff Tweedy fans are picking themselves off the floor. ;)
Who?
> (I'm more of a Jay Farrar (Son Volt) fan myself.)
Who?
Seriously - no idea who either of them are. It takes all sorts :D
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PasTim wrote:
> Ta - I've never heard of any of them, being the ignoramus that I am. So
> for me, wilco is more Biggles than band :)
Thousands of Jeff Tweedy fans are picking themselves off the floor. ;)
(I'm more of a Jay Farrar (Son Volt) fan myself.)
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garym wrote:
> sorry, bad sense of humor:
>
> Uncle Tupelo (band) turned into two bands (1) Wilco and (2) Son Volt
Ta - I've never heard of any of them, being the ignoramus that I am. So
for me, wilco is more Biggles than band :)
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PasTim wrote:
> Que?
sorry, bad sense of humor:
Uncle Tupelo (band) turned into two bands (1) Wilco and (2) Son Volt
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garym wrote:
> Son Volt
Que?
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PasTim wrote:
> Wilco.
Son Volt
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ChipMonk wrote:
> Thanks - a last whirligig in the wind? Keep us up to date with outcome.
Wilco.
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PasTim wrote:
> I'll have a go, with no expectation of success.
Thanks - a last whirligig in the wind? Keep us up to date with outcome.
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ChipMonk wrote:
> Funny you should mention this but the Picasso version has been my avatar
> on all my personal accounts for about 10 years. Any links to lost causes
> in general and anthropomorphic global warming in particular are entirely
> coincidental!
>
> To PasTim - you/we all have put so
garym wrote:
> Tilting at windmills?
>
> http://tinyurl.com/qg55u6m
Funny you should mention this but the Picasso version has been my avatar
on all my personal accounts for about 10 years. Any links to lost causes
in general and anthropomorphic global warming in particular are entirely
coincide
garym wrote:
> Tilting at windmills?
>
> http://tinyurl.com/qg55u6m
:)
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PasTim wrote:
> I just received this. Should I bother to try?
Tilting at windmills?
http://tinyurl.com/qg55u6m
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PasTim wrote:
> I just received this. Should I bother to try?
>
> -" Thank you for taking the time to contact us and we appreciate that
> you felt strongly enough to write to us again. We have noted your points
> and are sorry to learn you were not satisfied with our earlier
> response.
>
> Yo
I just received this. Should I bother to try?
-" Thank you for taking the time to contact us and we appreciate that
you felt strongly enough to write to us again. We have noted your points
and are sorry to learn you were not satisfied with our earlier
response.
You've already had a response fro
I wonder what the size of the listen-again audience is now?
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castalla wrote:
> My second comment on the AF blog has now been excised.
You are clearly a "very naughty boy" :)
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ChipMonk wrote:
> The BBC "Love Blog" (bottom of my original post shortcut) was closed
> after 4 comments! The above discussion by and about castalla relate to
> the good old Audio Factory Blog - which is currently in zombie mode i.e.
> living but dead!
My second comment on the AF blog has now b
PasTim wrote:
> I don't even any space for comments. Did they delete the whole lot or
> am I looking in the wrong place?
The BBC "Love Blog" (bottom of my original post shortcut) was closed
after 4 comments! The above discussion by and about castalla relate to
the good old Audio Factory Blog -
castalla wrote:
> Must have ruffled the blogger's ego, I fear.
I don't even any space for comments. Did they delete the whole lot or
am I looking in the wrong place?
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ChipMonk wrote:
> Oh Dear - blogging the above on the BBC Blog and you've broken the BBC
> House Rules again! That's you on the Naughty Step for 20 minutes!
>
> You're just not getting into the swing of this Luvvy Love Thing at all
> are you?
Must have ruffled the blogger's ego, I fear.
Tou
castalla wrote:
> The bog is already closed after 4 comments! A record?
>
> Not surprising really, as the whole concept is utter 'marketing'
> naffness of the first order.
Oh Dear - blogging the above on the BBC Blog and you've broken the BBC
House Rules again! That's you on the Naughty Step f
ftlight wrote:
> Who posted comment #4 there, I wonder? No response, of course.
The bog is already closed after 4 comments! A record?
Not surprising really, as the whole concept is utter 'marketing'
naffness of the first order.
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ChipMonk wrote:
> And now, despite all, they want us to love them!
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/55hRWmLmhW6j71S7nwzPbRt/what-is-love
Who posted comment #4 there, I wonder? No response, of course.
ftlight
And now, despite all, they want us to love them!
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d6jg wrote:
> Interesting reading indeed.
> How did he get the access to the info I wonder?
> Not too much light thrown on the "reach out to manufacturers" issue
> though.
Here's the full thread at the uk.rec.audio newsgroup:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/uk.rec.audio/RKW3-nw6jbg
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ftlight wrote:
> Interesting technical summary, with diagrams, of the Audio Factory
> fiasco:
>
> http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/BBC/AudioFactory/AudioFactory.html
Interesting reading indeed.
How did he get the access to the info I wonder?
Not too much light thrown on the "reach out to manufacturer
utgg wrote:
> A useless thought for late on an Easter Saturday. Given how proud the
> BBC are of providing 320kbps HLS streams for all 57 BBC radio stations,
> I wonder how many listener-seconds there have been, or ever will be, of
> the HLS 320kpbs BBC Radio nan Gaidheal stream, for example. I p
d6jg wrote:
> It is indeed intriguing. Presumably the TuneIn 320 Kbps streams are
> international i.e. no live sport?
A useless thought for late on an Easter Saturday. Given how proud the
BBC are of providing 320kbps HLS streams for all 57 BBC radio stations,
I wonder how many listener-seconds t
It is indeed intriguing. Presumably the TuneIn 320 Kbps streams are
international i.e. no live sport?
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Nick_G wrote:
> I can listen to the 320 k HLS streams on the iPad here via Tune In by
> going to More Information>Choose Stream>320 k HLS (2 listed for some
> reason). Otherwise it defaults to the 128 k HLS stream which is delayed
> slightly compared to the 320 k version.
>
> Regards,
> Nick
In
utgg wrote:
> I'm still very puzzled about the 320kbps HLS stream situation. Right
> back in the second week in February, various people found Live stream
> HLS urls by network monitoring the iPlayer app on iThings and Android.
> But these urls only listed 128kbps maximum streams - and they still
utgg wrote:
> Does anyone know. Nabisco - where are you - do you know?
Intriguing! Perhaps Nabisco has been warned off by David Cameron in a
secretly coded message. Two Shredded Wheat (posts?) OK, three Shredded
Wheat - too much. i.e. get out of the kitchen. Unless, Hell, you're
tough enough fo
d6jg wrote:
> It's pretty clear that Andrew Scott doesn't really know what's going on.
> He claims all his statements are made in good faith but so many are just
> plain wrong!
> We've turned off RTMP. Errr. No you haven't!
> Listen Again is available via HLS/AAC at 320kbps. Errr. Try 128kbps.
>
Despite the lack of a satisfactory resolution we did at least get the
BBC to engage in considerable detail on their blog, so that what they
did is recorded.
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(unfortunately).
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garym wrote:
> The numbers of listeners using only PC/Mac or smart phones/tablets for
> streaming make us almost irrelevant.
I agree, and that's pretty much what the BBC assumed at the offset.
We're a small minority of (predominantly) grumpy old codgers, hanging on
to a largely lost idea of "si
I don't think any manufacturer has a direct connection to the Beeb, it's
all via aggregators - TuneIn, vTuner etc. I imagine but cannot be sure
that the manufacturer buys a licence to use the aggregators stream per
device and the aggregators in turn buy a licence from the Beeb. Michael
will probab
The problem we face with the BBC and other internet streamers (I've had
the same problems with other radio stations changing the way they stream
as well) is that we networked music player users (squeezeboxes, sonos,
etc.) are a tiny, tiny percentage of the audience using streams. The
numbers of l
castalla wrote:
> Pessimistically, I think there's very little which can be done. People
> have tried a wide range of options - none of which seem to have had any
> effect given the Audio Factory's response has been to just tough it out.
>
>
> Goodness knows how may listeners they've actually
d6jg wrote:
> Indeed.
> I was joking.
> You are spot on concerning the lack of understanding about the technical
> issues. When I wrote to my MP I found it very difficult to adequately
> explain the issue in layman terms. She hasn't responded.
> The chatter on the blog is dying down which is I su
PS Tony Blackburn should always be at 320 bps anyway :)
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Indeed.
I was joking.
You are spot on concerning the lack of understanding about the technical
issues. When I wrote to my MP I found it very difficult to adequately
explain the issue in layman terms. She hasn't responded.
The chatter on the blog is dying down which is I suppose inevitable.
There i
d6jg wrote:
> i am surprised Beeb bashing media such as the Daily Mail aren't
> interested. Perhaps we could ask Jeremy Clarkson to get involved. He's
> not that busy so I am told.
Not a good idea, in my book.
The problem is that those in positions of power who could possibly
insist on a soluti
i am surprised Beeb bashing media such as the Daily Mail aren't
interested. Perhaps we could ask Jeremy Clarkson to get involved. He's
not that busy so I am told.
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d6jg wrote:
> It's pretty clear that Andrew Scott doesn't really know what's going on.
> He claims all his statements are made in good faith but so many are just
> plain wrong!
> We've turned off RTMP. Errr. No you haven't!
> Listen Again is available via HLS/AAC at 320kbps. Errr. Try 128kbps.
>
It's pretty clear that Andrew Scott doesn't really know what's going on.
He claims all his statements are made in good faith but so many are just
plain wrong!
We've turned off RTMP. Errr. No you haven't!
Listen Again is available via HLS/AAC at 320kbps. Errr. Try 128kbps.
He and the BBC have no i
d6jg wrote:
> I suspect they have been "sold a pup" by the 3rd party providers, have
> signed a whopping great contract with them and are now caught with their
> bloomers round their ankles with nowhere to go.
> The fact that James mentions the plans to implement a UK only version of
> the MP3 f
I suspect they have been "sold a pup" by the 3rd party providers, have
signed a whopping great contract with them and are now caught with their
bloomers round their ankles with nowhere to go.
The fact that James mentions the plans to implement a UK only version of
the MP3 fallback streams came ab
ChipMonk wrote:
> There is also a great deal of ongoing discussion with manufacturers to
> help them take advantage of the new technology. It is definitely very
> important for us to help support the industry through these changes, and
> the team are very focused on that activity.
>
> Once aga
In the early days of this sad affair, I attempted to directly contact
all members of the BBC senior management with some remit in this area,
as well as politicians, BBC complaints departments and feedback
programmes, media etc. My initial communication with Helen Boaden (BBC
Director of Radio) was
PasTim wrote:
> The latest response to my complaints is as below.
>
> -We did communicate the changes to manufacturers and aggregators 14
> months ago, and our expectation was that the information would then get
> through to their users.
> -
Okay, hold the phone. I'm going to go back to the
utgg wrote:
> Yes, it does. Sports Extra is available via bpa's iPlayerExtras, but
> I'd only recently noticed it had been missing in Triode's Listen
> Again/On Demand listings.
Yea
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> Does it work?
Yes, it does. Sports Extra is available via bpa's iPlayerExtras, but
I'd only recently noticed it had been missing in Triode's Listen
Again/On Demand listings.
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utgg wrote:
> Thanks for that! The later document lists 'sportsextra.xml'. I'd tried
> guessing that name to add it to the menu.opml in the BBCiPlayer plugin,
> as it is missing there...
Does it work?
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d6jg wrote:
> Interesting from 2008
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/legacy/radiolabs/2008/09/xml_feeds_for_listen_again_con.shtml
>
> Note the well known (to us) name of one of the comment posters.
>
> The "documentation" referred to has moved to
> https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=111sRK
bpa wrote:
> I expect it was WMA. WMA LA stayed around for a good while after WMA
> live stopped. Very few non PC system played Flash because of the need
> to have custom Flash parameters per station (to match the stations SWF
> player) - it wasn't a general purpose audio format.
It's interesti
bpa wrote:
> I expect it was WMA. WMA LA stayed around for a good while after WMA
> live stopped. Very few non PC system played Flash because of the need
> to have custom Flash parameters per station (to match the stations SWF
> player) - it wasn't a general purpose audio format.OK - thanks.
PasTim wrote:
> Both stopped on March 9th. As I understand it (not a lot) WMA was
> stopped earlier (but maybe only the live, not LA?), and RTMP on March
> 9th. That's all I know. I don't have any other proof - both Internet
> Radio manuals are silent on the topic.
I expect it was WMA. WMA L
bpa wrote:
> Did they play WMA or RTMP versions ?
>
> The syndicated XML feed initially had WMA and RealAudio and then
> RealAudio was replaced by RTMP aka Flash
Both stopped on March 9th. As I understand it (not a lot) WMA was
stopped earlier (but maybe only the live, not LA?), and RTMP on Mar
PasTim wrote:
> So Marantz, Musical Fidelity and many others also did this without the
> BBC knowing. Is that realistic?
Interesting from 2008
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/legacy/radiolabs/2008/09/xml_feeds_for_listen_again_con.shtml
Note the well known (to us) name of one of the comment poster
PasTim wrote:
> So Marantz, Musical Fidelity and many others also did this without the
> BBC knowing. Is that realistic?
Did they play WMA or RTMP versions ?
The syndicated XML feed initially had WMA and RealAudio and then
RealAudio was replaced by RTMP aka Flash
bpa wrote:
> The RTMP programs were in the XML feed which I interpret to mean they
> were syndicated. They were only removed from the XML feed this year.
> When the RTMP programs were first in the XML feed, Flash was proprietary
> and only by reverse engineering Flash could RTMP be played. Howe
PasTim wrote:
> The RTMP streams were not syndicated (made available to third parties).
> We did not support anyone using those except our own applications. The
> fact that people were using them is because they had been reverse
> engineered which is against the terms under which we provide our s
I read that as
"We cocked up but we are not going to do anything about it"
I used to work for a high street bank that wasn't Barclays. For a while
I worked in a dept that handled area based complaints. One of our
template replies was jokingly referred to the "FOTB" letter.
We are receiving the BB
The latest response to my complaints is as below. The only new item I
can see is that they do play some form of web page about the topic.
The response to the LA RTMP question implies that several manufacturers
implemented LA without 'permission'. Do we think that's really true?
Are others tryi
Andrew Scott has posted again. Full of apologies. Lots of apologies.
Even more apologies but STILL maintaining they are talking to
manufacturers but if you read all of his comments very carefully his
stance is shifting towards talking to manufacturers about supporting MP3
rather than HLS/AAC.
He
chipmonk wrote:
> yes, i noticed that this morning. It'll probably have as little effect
> as everything else which is written in the bbc blog.
>
> I guess we're all getting a bit frustrated and edgy over this whole
> business.
>
> Pax.
Indeed :)
LMS 7.9 on VortexBox Midi, Xubuntu 14.04, FL
PasTim wrote:
> Someone else has commented about this on the bbc blog today, so the
> issue has got out into the open anyway.
Yes, I noticed that this morning. It'll probably have as little effect
as everything else which is written in the BBC blog.
I guess we're all getting a bit frustrated a
ChipMonk wrote:
> I'm sorry but I really don't understand what you are banging on about.
> You requested advice and, in good faith, we gave it - with reasons. What
> you do with that advice is your business. Some of us have simply said
> that we think that, at this stage in our very "asymmetrical
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