Re: [slim] Best 802.11N Router for Duet

2008-07-03 Thread radish
DeVerm;317101 Wrote: > > Just saying that "an expert" said that it doesn't matter is > irrelevant. > It's not "an expert", it's the VP of engineering at one of the leading designers of wifi chipsets. Feel free to point to evidence that he's wrong, but in the absence of that I'll take his word f

Re: [slim] Best 802.11N Router for Duet

2008-07-03 Thread DeVerm
jw111;315601 Wrote: > I need to get a new router and would like to pick the 802.11n router > that works best with my Duet Controller. I am using a wired connection > for the receiver. > > What 802.11n router is as reliable as possible with the Controller? > > Maybe the Squeezebox people could

Re: [slim] Best 802.11N Router for Duet

2008-07-02 Thread Nonreality
MrSinatra;316645 Wrote: > well, besides the idea that being all N is good in that it keeps those > without N from any possible way in, (a slight but nonetheless > considered position), it was my understanding from this article, (which > used to be toms hardware i think?) that in any mode other th

Re: [slim] Best 802.11N Router for Duet

2008-07-02 Thread radish
MrSinatra;316645 Wrote: > but another consideration is that the SBs can bridge wirelessly right? > so if i have some gear hooked into it via ethernet and using it as the > wireless adapter, isn't it a good idea to have more BW for the SB and > its client? That's kind of an edge case :) I'm sure

Re: [slim] Best 802.11N Router for Duet

2008-07-02 Thread MrSinatra
well, besides the idea that being all N is good in that it keeps those without N from any possible way in, (a slight but nonetheless considered position), it was my understanding from this article, (which used to be toms hardware i think?) that in any mode other than pure N the router goes from 40

Re: [slim] Best 802.11N Router for Duet

2008-07-02 Thread radish
MrSinatra;316484 Wrote: > a LOT of wireless networks are BETTER when the router need only support > N instead of a mixed mode of G and N or B, G and N. > The N standard (such as it is) has full backwards compatability with G. There is no performance penalty associated with a mixed G/N network a

Re: [slim] Best 802.11N Router for Duet

2008-07-02 Thread Nonreality
MrSinatra;316484 Wrote: > the obvious requirement for N has nothing to do with slim, and > everything to do with the router. > > a LOT of wireless networks are BETTER when the router need only support > N instead of a mixed mode of G and N or B, G and N. > > it would be nice for slim to allow c

Re: [slim] Best 802.11N Router for Duet

2008-07-02 Thread booguss
For me the combination DIR-635 as router and DAP-1353 as Access Point in Repeater Mode works great. Now I have a really good wireless strenght throughout the whole house ( never under 80% :-) ) However, before I got this to work I had to spend some great time with the the D-Link telephone support.

Re: [slim] Best 802.11N Router for Duet

2008-07-01 Thread MrSinatra
the obvious requirement for N has nothing to do with slim, and everything to do with the router. a LOT of wireless networks are BETTER when the router need only support N instead of a mixed mode of G and N or B, G and N. it would be nice for slim to allow customers to pick N so mixed mode was no

Re: [slim] Best 802.11N Router for Duet

2008-07-01 Thread pfarrell
Just to agree with "Pascal Hibon", the standard is not agreed upon. It may happen this year, it may not. IEEE moves in mysterious ways. There is no "need" for an 11N router in the SlimDevices world. The bandwidth requirements do not push 11G. Some of the better "11N" marketed routers use 5 gHz b

Re: [slim] Best 802.11N Router for Duet

2008-07-01 Thread JimC
jw111;315601 Wrote: > I need to get a new router and would like to pick the 802.11n router > that works best with my Duet Controller. I am using a wired connection > for the receiver. > > What 802.11n router is as reliable as possible with the Controller? > > Maybe the Squeezebox people could

Re: [slim] Best 802.11N Router for Duet

2008-07-01 Thread jw111
I thought that 802.11n includes MIMO, which could help increase the range. radish;316408 Wrote: > This has been discussed a number of times before. Short answer: no. > Longer answer: there's no reason to use n in devices like this with low > bandwidth requirements. -- jw111 --

Re: [slim] Best 802.11N Router for Duet

2008-07-01 Thread radish
amcluesent;316375 Wrote: > I wonder if there will ever be an 802.11n upgrade for the SB3, Receiver > and Transporter, IIRC they all use mini-PCI cards for the wi-fi like > this, poss. based on Atheros chip-set. Probably just a few lines of > code in the firmware... This has been discussed a numb

Re: [slim] Best 802.11N Router for Duet

2008-07-01 Thread amcluesent
I wonder if there will ever be an 802.11n upgrade for the SB3 and Transporter, IIRC they both use mini-PCI cards for the wi-fi. -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10286 View

Re: [slim] Best 802.11N Router for Duet

2008-07-01 Thread Pascal Hibon
Just keep in mind that 802.11n (or MIMO) is not a standard yet. It is still in draft. The current draft is 2.0 I believe. If for some reason the draft gets important changes, those changes could affect hardware requirements of Access Points. The IEEE will need at least until the end of 2008 before

Re: [slim] Best 802.11N Router for Duet

2008-07-01 Thread doggieflyer
I chose the Belkin N1 Vision wireless router in part because it has a display on the router where I can clearly see which devices are connecting and the bandwidth they are utilizing. It has four Ethernet ports as well. The browser-based config tool has been easy to use and full featured. The fi

Re: [slim] Best 802.11N Router for Duet

2008-07-01 Thread Sike
I have a WRT160N, works fine. -- Sike Sike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2458 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49309 ___

Re: [slim] Best 802.11N Router for Duet

2008-06-29 Thread Nonreality
I use the Netgear WNR854T N which replaced a Netgear Rangemax G+ that was about 10 mths old when I replaced it in Feb. I made a huge difference with both my Laptop and my SB3. I don't know how it works with the Duet but I'd highly recommend it for laptops and the SB3. You definitely want to get

Re: [slim] Best 802.11N Router for Duet

2008-06-29 Thread Jeff Flowerday
jw111;315797 Wrote: > Are you running the Duet with it? Yes, that's why I replied to your thread. -- Jeff Flowerday Jeff Flowerday's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15883 View this thread: http:

Re: [slim] Best 802.11N Router for Duet

2008-06-29 Thread pablolie
the duet and the linksys wrt54gx4 do *not* like each other, the receiver works most of the time, the controller drops out all the time despite all the tricks in the forums. -- pablolie pablolie's Profile: http://forums.sli

Re: [slim] Best 802.11N Router for Duet

2008-06-29 Thread jw111
Are you running the Duet with it? Jeff Flowerday;315753 Wrote: > I'm running the same one, it works great. A buddy has it as well, works > great for him as well. -- jw111 jw111's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/

Re: [slim] Best 802.11N Router for Duet

2008-06-28 Thread Jeff Flowerday
amcluesent;315667 Wrote: > The D-Link DIR-655 has had good reviews. Mine is fine, with a laptop and > SB3 off the wi-fi. I'm running the same one, it works great. A buddy has it as well, works great for him as well. -- Jeff Flowerday --

Re: [slim] Best 802.11N Router for Duet

2008-06-28 Thread amcluesent
The D-Link DIR-655 has had good reviews. Mine is fine, with a laptop and SB3 off the wi-fi. -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevi

Re: [slim] Best 802.11N Router for Duet

2008-06-28 Thread funkstar
The wireless portion of Zyxel and Drayteck routers historically have caused problems, I don't know if this is still the case. There are a few new routers utilising the 5GHz portion of the 802.11n spec. However this won't benefit G users as it is 2.4GHz only. It's not that they won't work (they st

Re: [slim] Best 802.11N Router for Duet

2008-06-28 Thread jw111
I have already been looking at comparison sites. Still, a list of working routers would be better than nothing. If I get enough comments then I will see some trends about which ones tend work. Also, If enough people say which routers do not work then I will get a sense of which ones to avoid.

Re: [slim] Best 802.11N Router for Duet

2008-06-28 Thread bonze
Define -'best'- If you want a router that is reliable with the Controller, then you want a reliable router. Unless there are any forum members with a collection of routers to do a comparison you're just going to get a list of working routers. It would be difficult to say if my router (Netgear

[slim] Best 802.11N Router for Duet

2008-06-28 Thread jw111
I need to get a new router and would like to pick the 802.11n router that works best with my Duet Controller. I am using a wired connection for the receiver. What 802.11n router is as reliable as possible with the Controller? Maybe the Squeezebox people could say what routers they develop with?