Julf wrote:
> - it is smaller
> - it uses less power
> - it is always on
> - it doesn't run a legacy closed desktop office operating system
- you can add a whole bunch of expensive cables to it
Gruss
Jan
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2string1 wrote:
> How can PI be any better then my desktop computer?
- it is smaller
- it uses less power
- it is always on
- it doesn't run a legacy closed desktop office operating system
"To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this
fast-growing art of 'high
2string1 wrote:
> How can PI be any better then my desktop computer?
If you want to string around multiple players around your house or have
a really small server .
Big clunky desktops are big and noisy and energy consuming so using one
as player, nah.
Diffrent is the word not better .
IF
2string1 wrote:
> How can PI be any *better* then my desktop computer?
dont use this word in a single line again soab
Gruss
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Greg Erskine wrote:
> It is cheaper, so that makes it better. :cool:
its better cause its linux
its better cause it needs more power from your brain
its better cause of your Desktop Computer is to old
its better cause its better
its better cause its better
its better cause its even better than
mherger wrote:
>
> BTW: did you see all those jokes about Adele's latest album (not
> available for streaming)? People coming up with "how to play a CD"
> tutorials for all those poor digital natives who've grown up with
> youtube and the like? :-) _They_ are mass market.
>
Here in Germany,
2string1 wrote:
> How can PI be any better then my desktop computer?
It is cheaper, so that makes it better. :cool:
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mherger wrote:
> But imagine you're the owner of a
> massive infrastructure (many dozens of servers) to keep a dead product
> running. It's only cost, no income any more. Now there's a 3rd party
> who's asking you to keep that infrastructure alive to support _their_
> products. How much
d6jg wrote:
> Makes me want pop downstairs and ask the Audiofools if they can hear the
> difference between an SSD & Sata drive.
I can easily hear the difference between an SSD and HDD - an SSD makes
no mechanical noise at all.
Mind you, if there is music playing it will drown out the noise
But a real company can probably solve that ( or buy a solution from you
) how about if another company showed up at logitechs door saying we
want to market a squeezebox can we join the club :) it has to be some
kind of business deal with my squeezebox com and al . There are already
some that do
mherger wrote:
But imagine you're the owner of a
massive infrastructure (many dozens of servers) to keep a dead product
running. It's only cost, no income any more. Now there's a 3rd party
who's asking you to keep that infrastructure alive to support _their_
products. How much money would you
Mnyb wrote:
> But a non techie friend of mine setup a sonos play 3 the other day
> striagth from the iPad app with no knowledge of it whatsover ...
This is the core of the issue. The Squeezebox ecosystem is complex
because it is so flexible.
Sonos is simple to operate because it's a closed
So a takeover of squeeze to widen the audience slightly may include more
expenses than the server park . Some massive spurt of new development ,
the best system can be better . Mass market would expect it to adjust
tags rip CD's have a music download shop etc and all streaming services
.
so it's
mherger wrote:
>
> And these new owners would be willing to pay for an infrastructure which
>
> for the time being would be serving 99%+ of customers they will never
> see a cent from?
>
Sounds like the normal dot-com business plan, doesn't it? :)
"To try to judge the real from the false
Squeezemenicely wrote:
> I think that it would be best to have LMS run all streaming services via
> plugin and completely without mysqueezebox anyway. That way we would not
> have to be scared if someone pulls the plug.
I agree, but unfortunately the streaming services aren't a technical
Squeezemenicely wrote:
> Why so complicated? A new company could theoretically buy the concept
> and run their own servers for their customers, or also buy into
> ickstream and then sell hardware.
> The old Logitech customers could/would log itno mysqueezebox.com as
> long as it is alive and if
Why so complicated? A new company could theoretically buy the concept
and run their own servers for their customers, or also buy into
ickstream and then sell hardware.
The old Logitech customers could/would log itno mysqueezebox.com as
long as it is alive and if they wanted access to the new
mherger wrote:
> > But a real company can probably solve that ( or buy a solution from
> you
> > ) how about if another company showed up at logitechs door saying we
> > want to market a squeezebox can we join the club :) it has to be some
> > kind of business deal with my squeezebox com and al
cliveb wrote:
> This is the core of the issue. The Squeezebox ecosystem is complex
> because it is so flexible.
> Sonos is simple to operate because it's a closed system and the users
> get only the facilities that Sonos dictates.
> If the Squeezebox ecosystem were simplified so that it's as
If i recall some out of these days there was a guy that recodes
something and after that he got a job @slimdevices.
Many of the SB team got their job this way. I did for sure.
Open source - hell yes but honestly there are less guys out there as
fingers on one Hand who really know about that
dsdreamer wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> I must say I am impressed by the amount of Squeezebox-related innovation
> that's happening everywhere these days, basically by hobbyists and the
> more technically-able users, but which nevertheless seems a very
> positive trend to me. Some key enablers have
d6jg wrote:
> It doesn't need to be. We just have to claim it is!
hmm nope
in my opinion and to be not OT > Can Raspberry Pi, HiFiBerry, Max2Play,
PiCorePlayerOS etc save the
> Squeezebox system?
The answer is maybe...
Raspberry Pi is a nerdy thing.
Max2play Picoreplayer is made from
DJanGo wrote:
> The only way lms can survive (imho) is geting Members from the more
> brain less money club here.
We don't want them here - why not go where they are (CA and the even
more extreme "audiophile" sites) and tell them how wonderful a RPI can
be if put in a suitably expensive
jimzak wrote:
> Here's an example of SB in a high-end device:
>
> http://www.audiostream.com/content/antipodes-ds-music-server/
Yep. That's got sufficient bollox in the article to fully qualify it as
a"high end" device. Just looks like a mini ATX PC to me though.
*Vortexbox LMS 7.8 music on
Julf wrote:
> Indeed. Case has to be machined out of solid ingot of "airspace-grade"
> aluminium (unless we can do titanium or unobtainium).
Here's an example of SB in a high-end device:
http://www.audiostream.com/content/antipodes-ds-music-server/
http://zzzone.net
mherger wrote:
> > If i recall some out of these days there was a guy that recodes
> > something and after that he got a job @slimdevices.
>
> Many of the SB team got their job this way. I did for sure.
>
> > Open source - hell yes but honestly there are less guys out there as
> > fingers on
d6jg wrote:
> What someone really needs to do is to build a really really expensive Pi
> & Dac option with a high quality really nice looking case and fancy
> power supply and flog it in the Hi-Fi mags.
Indeed. Case has to be machined out of solid ingot of "airspace-grade"
aluminium (unless we
pkfox wrote:
> Hi there, you make some very interesting observations, as someone who
> has just built a Ras Pi solution ( server and player on the same box ) I
> can vouch that all the bits we need to build a very good substitute for
> Squeezboxes et al are available, as are ready built players.
d6jg wrote:
> This is indeed an interesting debate.
> The RaspBerry Pi route is by virtue of the low cost of the Pi a bit of
> an oddity. It is hi-fi but at a very budget price. Aufiofools like big
> ticket prices (I am not being facetious here) so other than those who
> are already wedded to
d6jg wrote:
> It doesn't need to be. We just have to claim it is!
Good point. But the marketing material has to mention quantum harmonics!
"To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this
fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt
edge that
Julf wrote:
> Indeed. Case has to be machined out of solid ingot of "airspace-grade"
> aluminium (unless we can do titanium or unobtainium).
It doesn't need to be. We just have to claim it is!
*Vortexbox LMS 7.8 music on QNAP TS419p via NFS* iThingys/iPeng/Tablets
*Living Room* - SB3 ->
It strikes me that the Squeezebox ecosystem has already migrated to the
technical hobbyist domain; a bit like MythTV.
And because LMS is open-source, it is likely to remain alive and well
for many years to come, but only within that restricted niche.
I personally shall continue to use it (and
cliveb wrote:
> It strikes me that the Squeezebox ecosystem has already migrated to the
> technical hobbyist domain; a bit like MythTV.
> And because LMS is open-source, it is likely to remain alive and well
> for many years to come, but only within that restricted niche.
> I personally shall
cliveb wrote:
> And because LMS is open-source, it is likely to remain alive and well
> for many years to come, but only within that restricted niche.
hmmm
if you take look to the earliest days it was always a open minded
community inspired thing.
If i recall some out of these days there was a
Well, there was the Community player project, which died - and it's
members mysteriously vanished, then Jackofall wanted to release a sort
of pseudocommercial product (if I understood it right) but nothing ever
came of that.
It is great that joint forces are keeping the system alive and making
DJanGo wrote:
> Open source - hell yes but honestly there are less guys out there as
> fingers on one Hand who really know about that sources and how to
> improve them. LMS is and was always a perl thingy and feel free to get
> some of the earliest Versions on an up2date System running - good
Hi Guys,
Nothing lasts forever, but I am have to say I am impressed by the amount
of activity that's springing up around the globe these days basically by
hobbyists and the technically able users, but it all seems very positive
to me. Some key enablers have been Logitech's enlightened GPL
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