Re: [slim] Does synchronized playback suck or is it just me?

2022-11-21 Thread sle118
dmozell wrote: > Maybe icecast shouldn't run on the same machine as LMS. I have icecast > on one raspberry picking up sound from my turntable and CD player. > Another raspberry with picore lms picks up the icecast stream and > transports it to several raspberry squeezebox players in sync. > Occa

Re: [slim] Does synchronized playback suck or is it just me?

2022-11-14 Thread dmozell
Maybe icecast shouldn't run on the same machine as LMS. I have icecast on one raspberry picking up sound from my turntable and CD player. Another raspberry with picore lms picks up the icecast stream and transports it to several raspberry squeezebox players in sync. Occassionally I have to restar

Re: [slim] Does synchronized playback suck or is it just me?

2022-10-26 Thread snubber
Paul Webster wrote: > Not really ... but I suspect it is not a common situation. > Note, though, LMS is single threaded so perhaps it might occasionally be > starved by something manager the VMs. I didn't know that, but honestly that does explain a lot. Having exclusive real-time control of th

Re: [slim] Does synchronized playback suck or is it just me?

2022-10-26 Thread Paul Webster
snubber wrote: > > Are there any known issues with trying to keep a large number of players > synchronized from a virtual machine host? Not really ... but I suspect it is not a common situation. Note, though, LMS is single threaded so perhaps it might occasionally be starved by something manag

Re: [slim] Does synchronized playback suck or is it just me?

2022-10-26 Thread snubber
Paul Webster wrote: > In that case - I suggest going back to 8.3 and generate logs again. > I say this because “Persistent” plugin is removed for 8.3 and equivalent > code is now in the 8.3 base. > > Philippe (who wrote the persistent stuff) appears to have freed up some > time for some more LMS

Re: [slim] Does synchronized playback suck or is it just me?

2022-10-26 Thread Paul Webster
In that case - I suggest going back to 8.3 and generate logs again. I say this because “Persistent” plugin is removed for 8.3 and equivalent code is now in the 8.3 base. Philippe (who wrote the persistent stuff) appears to have freed up some time for some more LMS work so he might be able to have

Re: [slim] Does synchronized playback suck or is it just me?

2022-10-26 Thread snubber
Paul Webster wrote: > Have you tried external sources other than Spotify (etc). > e.g. a simple internet radio station using Shoutcast/Icecast ? That's exactly what I did, set up a local icecast server for it to stream from and yet it continues to buffer underrun. I am suspecting the synchroni

Re: [slim] Does synchronized playback suck or is it just me?

2022-10-26 Thread Paul Webster
Have you tried external sources other than Spotify (etc). e.g. a simple internet radio station using Shoutcast/Icecast ? Paul Webster author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, abc australia and cbc/radio-ca

Re: [slim] Does synchronized playback suck or is it just me?

2022-10-26 Thread snubber
d6jg wrote: > Good point but it’s not a Qobuz setting it’s general. > > Settings / Advanced / Networking / Streaming Mode - choose Cache or > Persistent rather than Normal So, after a considerable amount of debugging, I can conclusively determine it's not any of my players ever dropping off the

Re: [slim] Does synchronized playback suck or is it just me?

2022-10-20 Thread snubber
d6jg wrote: > Good point but it’s not a Qobuz setting it’s general. > > Settings / Advanced / Networking / Streaming Mode - choose Cache or > Persistent rather than Normal I've had the setting "Cache HTTP(S) streams on disk" and a buffer of 6 seconds. Trying a 10 second buffer today to see if

Re: [slim] Does synchronized playback suck or is it just me?

2022-10-19 Thread d6jg
threshold350 wrote: > Not sure about Spotty but Qobuz has a cache setting that I set to > prevent any buffering. Maybe it will help Spotty with transcoding and > syncing to all the players > > > Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Good point but it’s not a Qobuz setting it’s general. Settings

Re: [slim] Does synchronized playback suck or is it just me?

2022-10-19 Thread threshold350
Not sure about Spotty but Qobuz has a cache setting that I set to prevent any buffering. Maybe it will help Spotty with transcoding and syncing to all the players Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk threshold350's Prof

Re: [slim] Does synchronized playback suck or is it just me?

2022-10-19 Thread snubber
d6jg wrote: > That log says that there is transcoding going on presumably because one > or some of the players require it. That can cause issues but probably > isn’t the problem if your server has done grunt. > > You imply that your players are on WiFi. Interference can cause issues > such as th

Re: [slim] Does synchronized playback suck or is it just me?

2022-10-19 Thread d6jg
That log says that there is transcoding going on presumably because one or some of the players require it. That can cause issues but probably isn’t the problem if your server has done grunt. You imply that your players are on WiFi. Interference can cause issues such as this and is very difficult

Re: [slim] Does synchronized playback suck or is it just me?

2022-10-19 Thread snubber
Code: [22-10-19 10:03:20.1677] Slim::Player::Song::open (362) youtube://www.youtube.com/v/hiY6g0cAsi8 [22-10-19 10:03:20.1679] Slim::Player::Song::open (386) seek=false time=0 canSeek=1 [22-10-19 10:03:20.1686] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::getConvertCommand2 (4

Re: [slim] Does synchronized playback suck or is it just me?

2022-10-19 Thread snubber
Code: [22-10-19 09:29:12.1049] Slim::Player::Song::open (362) spotify://track:1snWlbcbgQpJfknoI30DWG [22-10-19 09:29:12.1058] Slim::Player::Song::open (386) seek=false time=0 canSeek=2 [22-10-19 09:29:12.1068] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::getConvertCommand2 (49

Re: [slim] Does synchronized playback suck or is it just me?

2022-10-19 Thread Paul Webster
When syncing it always goes through LMS so setting it to proxy via LMS will not make a difference in this case. Can you try with different combinations of players in the group to see if it is related to the number of players or perhaps a particular one? Paul Webster author of \"now playing\"

[slim] Does synchronized playback suck or is it just me?

2022-10-19 Thread snubber
To paint a picture of what I'm working with: - LMS 8.2 server is on a 12-core Xeon with 64 GB ram hardwired into the main switch. - Four RPIs with dedicated DAC - Two Muse speakers running Squeeze-Esp32 - Three hardwired Unifi hotspots around the house for full coverage on all channels