morris_minor;457182 Wrote:
I'm a regular listener to RadioIO's Real Jazz stream and heard last
night an advert (am too tight to buy a SoundPass) for RadioIO's business
service. Out of interest I just visited the URL and noticed a reference
to the IO player. What could this be?
The answer
Apple registered IPOD TOUCH (sn 77277704) not TOUCH alone - hence no
problem here.
Logitech seems to have not bothered to file for SQUEEZEBOX TOUCH and
have let SQUEEZEBOX BOOM lapse (sn 77243542) and are instead relying
on using SQUEEZEBOX (sn 77243515)
You can find them here
I'm a regular listener to RadioIO's Real Jazz stream and heard last
night an advert (am too tight to buy a SoundPass) for RadioIO's business
service. Out of interest I just visited the URL and noticed a reference
to the IO player. What could this be?
The answer was revealed here:
Just curious but knowing Apple, why haven't they sued yet about the
name?
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Nonreality;456848 Wrote:
Just curious but knowing Apple, why haven't they sued yet about the
name?
I was wondering when someone might mention the actual name, would not
have been my choice personally.
Anyway, i guess they would have to sue a lot of people, such as HTC.
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Nonreality;456848 Wrote:
Just curious but knowing Apple, why haven't they sued yet about the
name?
I'm not a lawyer, but I believe it is not possible to reserve the use
of a word that is either in common use for that purpose and/or useful to
describe a product, because that would be unfair to
I would certainly would usually agree with you Goodsounds and you make
perfect logic in my mind but that has never stopped Apple before. They
are kind of like monster cable on this sort of stuff. I'm just kind of
surprised, not hoping (is that one p?) mind you. I hope everyone knows
that.
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Lets not. And also that it is a Smart NMP and can stand on its own
once Slim SC is released for those that don't want a Server running all
the time
Yeap.
By the way, what happens when you have no internet and your nas / pc is
off ?
Is the SqueezeBox usable at all ? For the stuff like alarms ,
EowynCarter;455885 Wrote:
Lets not. And also that it is a Smart NMP and can stand on its own
once Slim SC is released for those that don't want a Server running all
the time
Yeap.
By the way, what happens when you have no internet and your nas / pc is
off ?
Is the SqueezeBox usable at
funkstar;455980 Wrote:
Once it is first setup, Touch is can be completely self contained. The
current lineup of Squeezebox players cannot operate without
Squeezenetwork or a Squeezecenter installation. The screen doesn't even
display the time.
Not quite true. The Boom will show the time and
andynormancx;455982 Wrote:
Not quite true. The Boom will show the time and sound the next alarm
even when it can't connect to SC or SN.
Yes, true, but that really is all, and alarms are limited to built in
sounds, not the actual alarm you set. OK in emergencies, but it isn't
very useful
funkstar;455988 Wrote:
Yes, true, but that really is all, and alarms are limited to built in
sounds, not the actual alarm you set. OK in emergencies, but it isn't
very useful without a server running :)
Maybe, but given that the actual question was:
Is the SqueezeBox usable at all ? For the
Yeap ;)
My ISP have, it seams, the annoying habit to push update at night,
forcing the modem to restart. Hopefully, everything goes fine, and the
SquezzeBox catch the connexion again. My NAS can't run all night, so
wake up would have to be from the the Squeezenetwork.
My main trouble there is
EowynCarter;455992 Wrote:
Yeap ;)
My ISP have, it seams, the annoying habit to push update at night,
forcing the modem to restart. Hopefully, everything goes fine, and the
SquezzeBox catch the connexion again. My NAS can't run all night, so
wake up would have to be from the the
Chippy;455270 Wrote:
UK prices according to the Logitech site:
Squeezebox Classic: £179
Squeezebox Touch: £259
That's not even close, guys!
Chippy
Crazy pricing. Personally, I wish they'd made the Touch without a touch
screen and sold it cheaper, obviously then it couldn't be called
I use wake on lan ( WOL ) Boom has the amazing ability to actually
send a WOL packet to the server 10 minutes before the alarm.
Cool :)
Maybe i really need to find a way to tell my nas to shut up when
starting. But i tought about that, as i can set a startup time on my
nas.
It makes a beep
aubuti;455747 Wrote:
Isn't that a headphone output, which presumably includes a headphone
amp? I would think you would get much better audio quality by connecting
the A5s to the line level RCA analog outputs using a Y-connector. That
is definitely true for the SB2 and SB3.
Yeah, I meant to
Mnyb;455862 Wrote:
Anyway you can have Music-IP if you want to but it takes serious
wizardry to set up Logitech simply *must* do a system similar to appple
genuis and make it a standard part of the system.
Also a lot the very nice stuff erland has done for community via his
excellent
EowynCarter;455317 Wrote:
As a new commmer i like touch better; Mainly for the usb et sd ports :)
Boom, if it had this, would be my way to go.
Being able to put music on something that rely on network connexion.
Can the touch usb port be used with usb speaker ? Would be great to
have
toby10;455700 Wrote:
No, Touch's USB is input only. To use with powered speakers you would
use the Touch's outputs (L/R, Digital Coax, Optical, mini-Plug). I use
the Touch with AudioEngine A5's via the 3.5 mm mini-plug output.
someone on the beta test has used a usb dac. But i dont think
toby10;455700 Wrote:
No, Touch's USB is input only. To use with powered speakers you would
use the Touch's outputs (L/R, Digital Coax, Optical, mini-Plug). I use
the Touch with AudioEngine A5's via the 3.5 mm mini-plug output.
The Touch has a full USB implementation and is running Linux so
toby10;455700 Wrote:
I use the Touch with AudioEngine A5's via the 3.5 mm mini-plug output.
Isn't that a headphone output, which presumably includes a headphone
amp? I would think you would get much better audio quality by connecting
the A5s to the line level RCA analog outputs using a
funkstar;455727 Wrote:
The Touch has a full USB implementation and is running Linux so really
anything is possible. USB DACs have been tried, keyboard and mice work
out of the box (the very early software had the mouse pointed visible at
all times), USB graphics adapters are also possible so
maggior;454791 Wrote:
Hopefully users like us, who made up the user market that helped start
the entire thing, won't be left behind while the joe sixpack class of
users become the driving force for future product direction.
Well, a lot of people do carry music and photos on USB drives and SD
Yes the Touch is a leap forward hardware wise very good in fact
excellent hardware it exceeds my expectations by a wide margin for
SB4.
It has more native formats to, less transcoding and radiostream
issues.
In short the upgrade we all wanted I'm getting it for the 24/96 .
The tweak potential is
Mark Miksis;454662 Wrote:
But please note that the Touch is the same price as the Classic and
comes with an IR remote so it doesn't cost you anything to not use it as
a touch screen.
UK prices according to the Logitech site:
Squeezebox Classic: £179
Squeezebox Touch: £259
That's not even
Chippy;455270 Wrote:
UK prices according to the Logitech site:
Squeezebox Classic: £179
Squeezebox Touch: £259
That's not even close, guys!
Chippy
sssh most likely outcome classic price is going up in europe ;)
same on logitech Swedish site touch is more expensive than classic.
Is
Chippy;455270 Wrote:
UK prices according to the Logitech site:
Squeezebox Classic: £179
Squeezebox Touch: £259
That's not even close, guys!
Chippy
I took the pricing on trust from a post made here. You are right, it is
not even close.
For the first time I am starting to file uneasy
dBerriff;455297 Wrote:
I took the pricing on trust from a post made here. You are right, it is
not even close.
For the first time I am starting to file uneasy about all this. I read
somewhere that the Touch software is being developed using Lua, the same
development language as for the
Phil Leigh;455300 Wrote:
So far I have not experienced anything with the Touch that is similar to
the issues some have had with the Controller. Despite the development
language, the reality is that it is very nearly as stable as the Classic
or Boom.
I think you are worrying
autopilot;454761 Wrote:
Yeah, sorry i forgot it's all about the acronyms :)
EDIT: Ha, no, your wrong! It would be SBSL :)
You can't have that - it's an FLA not a TLA :)
Craig
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I'm spending too much time on this so this is my last post on this
topic.
To be honest I don't really care if the Touch works or not - I am not
going to buy one as my SB 3 does all I need, and some things that I
don't need since I moved to an external DAC. I do care about being
patronised with
AD a new commmer i like touche better; Mainly for the usb et sd ports
:)
Boom, if it had this, would be my way to go.
Being able to put music on someting that rely on network conexion.
Can the touch usb port be used with usb speaker ? Would be great to
have auto powered speakers.
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EowynCarter;455317 Wrote:
Can the touch usb port be used with usb speaker ? Would be great to have
auto powered speakers.
I read somewhere that one of the beta testers was using speakers that
get power from USB with his touch. I presume they still use line-out
for sound though.
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lrossouw;455338 Wrote:
I read somewhere that one of the beta testers was using speakers that
get power from USB with his touch. I presume they still use line-out
for sound though.
I believe they said they were using USB for audio as well.
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Yes, it will. Yes, all of them.
dBerriff;455311 Wrote:
In my humble opinion, Logitech can fiddle around all they want with the
front-end (and I believe they already have the best solutions) but if
the ripping/tagging/WiFi/distribution back-end stays as it is then the
various Squeeze devices will remain a mail-order only
morris_minor;455364 Wrote:
I think you've hit the nail squarely on the head here.
Visitors who are really impressed with my Squeeze setup - sound
quality, convenience etc - glaze over when the talk turns to networks,
ripping and tagging. I think I'll stick to playing CDs is the usual
dBerriff;455311 Wrote:
In my humble opinion, Logitech can fiddle around all they want with the
front-end (and I believe they already have the best solutions) but if
the ripping/tagging/WiFi/distribution back-end stays as it is then the
various Squeeze devices will remain a mail-order only
JJZolx;454780 Wrote:
Maybe what you're missing is the new direction being taken by Logitech.
If they continue to sell players only to folks like you and I then
they'll probably have to shut down the Streaming Business Unit as
unprofitable and write off the acquisition of Slim Devices as a
dBerriff;454775 Wrote:
I have a network, broadband access, SqueezeCenter, ripping software,
loads of hard disk space and a computer to run it all. Without this
infrastructure the Squeeze concept does not really work. It also tends
to render the USB/SD slots redundant, unless I am once again
Until Logitech offer more support with the back-end I just don't see
things moving forward, although I desperately want them to. I have spent
a lot of time and money basing my music system around what I will call
the Squeeze solution because it works for me better and more cost
effectively than
Mark Miksis;454662 Wrote:
Some people simply don't like a touch screen and won't use it. That's
fine. But please note that the Touch is the same price as the Classic
and comes with an IR remote so it doesn't cost you anything to not use
it as a touch screen. The goal is for the IR-mode
We are witnessing a revolution in the way music is recorded, distributed
and replayed. Someone companies are going to get the replay part of it
right and make a fortune. The following comments are from a UK/GB
perspective.
Apple have done a really good job in my opinion. They have covered just
The Touch replaces the Classic which will be phased out (as stock runs
down):
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=454328highlight=classic+matrix#post454328
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Now that he touch has been announced, what will happen to the Classic?
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I should have guessedthere was a coded message from Sean and Dean on
the Signature Edition of the SB3 (classic)
Is there Something I should Know.
Spooky!!
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Browny;454513 Wrote:
I should have guessedthere was a coded message from Sean and Dean on
the Signature Edition of the SB3 (classic)
Is there Something I should Know.
Spooky!!
Look at the picture again. The front panel is the key. It was the last
chance to buy a Slim Devices
iPhone;454586 Wrote:
Look at the picture again. The front panel is the key. It was the last
chance to buy a Slim Devices labeled SB3. All the ones after that have
Logitech on the front. It wasn't some code or sign, it was the
Signature Edition Slim Devices Logo'd SB3.
All future stock was
iPhone;454586 Wrote:
Look at the picture again. The front panel is the key. It was the last
chance to buy a Slim Devices labeled SB3. All the ones after that have
Logitech on the front. It wasn't some code or sign, it was the
Signature Edition Slim Devices Logo'd SB3.
All future stock was
Browny;454593 Wrote:
Dude...I know that. I was trying to have a bit of a giggle!!
I giggled! Or maybe it was a chuckle...
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Apart from the doubled sample rate provision I cannot see any real
advantage to the Touch over the Classic, especially as the screen is so
small for its likely positioning.
Now that I have been spoilt by remote control of replay volume let
alone track selection, what is the point? I'm not going
Browny;454593 Wrote:
Dude...I know that. I was trying to have a bit of a giggle!!
Giggle excepted. ;=} And a nice addition to the thread digging up that
picture. And I was completely fooled thinking you were serious. Doh!
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dBerriff;454643 Wrote:
Now that I have been spoilt by remote control of replay volume let alone
track selection, what is the point? I'm not going walk backwards and
forwards all evening as the mood for different tracks takes me. I will
stick with my Classic SB3 as the large text option
dBerriff;454643 Wrote:
Now that I have been spoilt by remote control of replay volume let alone
track selection, what is the point? I'm not going walk backwards and
forwards all evening as the mood for different tracks takes me. I will
stick with my Classic SB3 as the large text option
Lets not forget the usb/sd card inputs on touch.
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mparry;454715 Wrote:
Lets not forget the usb/sd card inputs on touch.
Lets not. And also that it is a Smart NMP and can stand on its own
once Slim SC is released for those that don't want a Server running all
the time. Hey, I am going to start using that acronym until the official
name comes
iPhone;454721 Wrote:
Lets not. And also that it is a Smart NMP and can stand on its own
once Slim SC is released for those that don't want a Server running all
the time. Hey, I am going to start using that acronym until the official
name comes out: SSC for Slim Squeeze Center only problem is
iPhone;454646 Wrote:
Giggle excepted. ;=} And a nice addition to the thread digging up that
picture. And I was completely fooled thinking you were serious. Doh!
Thanks to iPhone, I chuckled twice.
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autopilot;454749 Wrote:
LOL, i still think 'Squeezebox Server lite' is better :)
Yeah AP, but that would be SSL and somebody might think they need a
certificate or that the Touch uses Secure Sockets Layer (SSL). ;=}
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Mark Miksis;454662 Wrote:
Some people simply don't like a touch screen and won't use it. That's
fine. But please note that the Touch is the same price as the Classic
and comes with an IR remote so it doesn't cost you anything to not use
it as a touch screen. The goal is for the IR-mode
iPhone;454752 Wrote:
Yeah AP, but that would be SSL and somebody might think they need a
certificate or that the Touch uses Secure Sockets Layer (SSL). ;=}
Yeah, sorry i forgot it's all about the acronyms :)
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mparry;454715 Wrote:
Lets not forget the usb/sd card inputs on touch.
I have a network, broadband access, SqueezeCenter, ripping software,
loads of hard disk space and a computer to run it all. Without this
infrastructure the Squeeze concept does not really work. It also tends
to render the
dBerriff;454775 Wrote:
I have a network, broadband access, SqueezeCenter, ripping software,
loads of hard disk space and a computer to run it all. Without this
infrastructure the Squeeze concept does not really work. It also tends
to render the USB/SD slots redundant, unless I am once again
Maybe what you're missing is the new direction being taken by Logitech.
If they continue to sell players only to folks like you and I then
they'll probably have to shut down the Streaming Business Unit as
unprofitable and write off the acquisition of Slim Devices as a mistake.
They need to sell
I think you hit the nail on the head JJZolx. Though I'm excited to see
new products being released, I feel no need to purchase any of these at
this point. There are no compelling features for me. These are
evolutionary products rather than revolutionary.
A fancy touch screen will certainly
dBerriff;454775 Wrote:
I have a network, broadband access, SqueezeCenter, ripping software,
loads of hard disk space and a computer to run it all. Without this
infrastructure the Squeeze concept does not really work. It also tends
to render the USB/SD slots redundant, unless I am once again
I love the more colorful display that shows album art. I think a few
years ago I voiced that as a wish for a next gen SB. And now here it
is.
I wish Ligitech offered a cash for squeezethings incentive program.
At this point in time I am overinvested (see my sig), and while I'd like
to upgrade my
iPhone;454721 Wrote:
Hey, I am going to start using that acronym until the official name
comes out: SSC for Slim Squeeze Center only problem is Logitech is
moving on with SBS (Squeeze Box Server) so I might need to use SSBS
instead.
I think we should call it SlimServer! Wait... deja vu.
Many interesting comments. I see your points, JJ, and agree in large
part. If Joe Average has 35 CDs to listen to, they're more likely to be
on a PC hard drive than on a USB device. I don't know if that particular
capability adds much for that target buyer. But maybe it does. It's a
way to
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