Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?

2013-01-22 Thread NFLnut
I just took the plunge on the ONE, instead of looking at spending $500 on a used Touch. For the last couple of years, I had thought about buying a Touch, just mostly for the color screen. Not for the Touch control. I just don't go over to the Squeezebox to play music. I am usually controlling

Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?

2013-01-16 Thread garym
bossanova808 wrote: See bottom of this page - http://www.myoliveone.com/Ones/roadmap ...although it's sloped so won't be quite like that unless they provide maybe some sort of mounting plate that flattens it? I would also want to have it tilted in some manner (not flat) for use as a

Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?

2013-01-15 Thread NFLnut
I would like to hang it on a wall, like a picture, and have control of it there. I don't want it sitting flat on a surface. Hopefully, they will accommodate those of us who wish to do this. I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere if this is possible.

Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?

2013-01-15 Thread bossanova808
See bottom of this page - http://www.myoliveone.com/Ones/roadmap ...although it's sloped so won't be quite like that unless they provide maybe some sort of mounting plate that flattens it? bossanova808's Profile:

Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?

2013-01-14 Thread NFLnut
Actually, in my previous post I meant to say TOSLINK, not coax connection. I have TOSLINK cables run throughout my walls. NFLnut's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13180 View this thread:

Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?

2013-01-14 Thread garym
NFLnut wrote: Actually, in my previous post I meant to say TOSLINK, not coax connection. I have TOSLINK cables run throughout my walls. in my private email communication with Olive they specifically said they were adding S/PDIF coax but would have to think more about TOSLINK or USB digital

Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?

2013-01-12 Thread garym
NFLnut wrote: Like Gary said .. My speakers are powered by some very expensive preamps and amps. I spent a lot of time and research into matching them all for the sound that I desired and I am not interested in anything other than those powering my speakers. Just give us a digital out

Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?

2013-01-12 Thread Nick_G
garym wrote: they reported somewhere recently (and in a private email to me) that the upcoming version does not include a S/PDIF coax digital out. That's a good thing! Another thing I was asking about was a headphone jack. I use my booms as bedside radios and often listen via headphones

Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?

2013-01-12 Thread garym
Nick_G wrote: I thought that they were now including a coax/digital out? If not then I wouldn't really be interested in getting one. I have my SBT routed via the DAC in my CD recorder as it seems to improve the sound quality on high-quality streams. This is how I'd be using any SB

Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?

2013-01-12 Thread Mnyb
Can it be had without crappy pwm amp ;) I do want a source only version , but let's sit it out and see how they do all other stuff like handling a music libray lossles et all , do they intend to develop thier own dlna server or use one the aviable ones ? Just leave it to customer to provide an

Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?

2013-01-12 Thread Nick_G
garym wrote: sorry, typo. I meant that they now DO INCLUDE a s/pdif coax digital out. Sorry Phew! You had me worried there... Nick_G's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38427 View this thread:

Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?

2013-01-11 Thread NFLnut
olive_media wrote: The Olive ONE is actually compatible with almost all passive speakers (not just Olive speakers). Here at our San Francisco office we have ONE directly connected to BW 804Ds and BW CM9s and they sound amazing. Like Gary said .. My speakers are powered by some very

Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?

2013-01-11 Thread audiomuze
IMHO Touch/SB3 type hardware incorporating a DAC needn't need to be part of the next solution. Any external DAC of your choosing should be the receiving end of the audio stream, and the streaming can be handled by a modified/community build LMS that outputs PCM WAV across a network. All that's

Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?

2013-01-07 Thread olive_media
saeyedoc wrote: The article I found stated that for now it doesn't come with analog or digital outputs, just speaker outputs from a 32 w/ch stereo amp. If they do come out with digital outputs, it could be a SB replacement. Hey there, We've recently added digital coaxial output to the Olive

Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?

2013-01-07 Thread olive_media
NFLnut wrote: I could not agree with this post any more. The One looks like a beautiful player, and the software looks nice. But I don't want speakers. I have about $8,000 worth of speakers that I think might sound 'slightly' better. I don't want my music locked down. Just give me a One

Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?

2013-01-07 Thread garym
olive_media wrote: The Olive ONE is actually compatible with almost all passive speakers (not just Olive speakers). Here at our San Francisco office we have ONE directly connected to BW 804Ds and BW CM9s and they sound amazing. I don't think anyone disputes that this can sound very good. But

Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?

2013-01-07 Thread Dave Dewey
Quoting NFLnut (nflnut.5or...@no-mx.forums.slimdevices.com): I think a smart move for Olive is to add an additional Touch like player where they take their existing player, remove the amps, and add the digital outs. I could not agree with this post any more. The One looks like a

Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?

2013-01-07 Thread gruntwolla
garym wrote: I don't think anyone disputes that this can sound very good. But you have to keep in mind that folks that have invested tens of thousands of dollars into Dac/preamp/amp/Speaker home systems are not likely to be happy about bypassing their beloved Dac/preamp/amp for the internal

Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?

2013-01-07 Thread bigbossman
olive_media wrote: Hey there, We've recently added digital coaxial output to the Olive ONE's specs. Check out the official announcement on our Indiegogo page: http://www.indiegogo.com/OliveONE/x/1849709?c=activity This is starting to sound awesome from Olive, a real Squeezebox replacement

Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?

2013-01-06 Thread NFLnut
toby10 wrote: My personal reservations: - don't need a player with built in amps (i.e. SB3 or Touch) - don't need another hard drive for my music collection (music must reside on the Olive HDD as additional hardware purchase, unless you want limited DLNA playback) - don't need a cloud

Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?

2013-01-05 Thread PHiX
Coax out is in, analogue out is being investigated. PHiX's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58574 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97539

Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?

2012-12-16 Thread amcluesent
Certainly has potential. I'd design it with analogue and S/PDIF outputs in every unit, then have a 1Tb disk or T-Amp as optional modules for folks who want in-build storage or amp. Of course Logitech could have done this 2 years ago, and with a proven s/w stack but they chose to flush

Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?

2012-12-14 Thread toby10
WPS is not very secure either. Easy simple setup = insecure vulnerable network. Best to disable WPS. https://windowssecrets.com/top-story/routers-using-wps-are-intrinsically-unsafe/ toby10's Profile:

Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?

2012-12-14 Thread Mnyb
The sync and gapless issue is interesting . it's fabled to be possible with upnp/dlna but not many practical applications devices exists . I think linnhas solved gapless for upnp . next Q would that work with another upnp player that also has gapless support and sync them ?

Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?

2012-12-13 Thread pippin
Finding a software player or codec usually is not the problem for a hardware manufacturer. Licensing and patents are. This is less of an issue for open-source software players because you download and use them yourself as a user but a hardware vendor can't just ship these players, he would still

Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?

2012-12-13 Thread andynormancx
Though I see the VLC library is moving to LGPL http://www.videolan.org/press/lgpl.html andynormancx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17417 View this thread:

Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?

2012-12-13 Thread toby10
Certainly glad to see another serious and experienced competitor uping the ante a bit, in both form and function. Sexy looking player too. That said, Olive One is definitely following more closely to the Sonos model. I looked into Olive and the (then) very similar Yamaha MisicCast system years

Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?

2012-12-13 Thread pippin
andynormancx wrote: Though I see the VLC library is moving to LGPL http://www.videolan.org/press/lgpl.html Do you know more about the status of this? So far, the code is still under GPL, not LGPL and this decision was more than a year ago. I think _all_ developers who have ever contributed

Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?

2012-12-13 Thread Nick_G
The more I read about the Olive One on their website the more appealing it is looking. I can see myself getting one next year. The blurb says that that all you need to do to log on to your home wi-fi network is press a single button with no WEP/password activation required. That could be a game

Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?

2012-12-13 Thread smiggs
Nick_G wrote: The more I read about the Olive One on their website the more appealing it is looking. I can see myself getting one next year. The blurb says that that all you need to do to log on to your home wi-fi network is press a single button with no WEP/password activation required.

Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?

2012-12-13 Thread GeeJay
Looks like they are trying to raise capital, too. $200k, which doesn't seem like much to me. Cool concept and design. I'm interested. GeeJay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11388 View this

Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?

2012-12-13 Thread Mnyb
smiggs wrote: That probably just means it has WPS compatibility which is great but it's hardly a killer feature as I've always found it more fiddly than passwords (WPA, WEP etc). I guess if it is useful to some that's great, these types of devices should be as get on a network as a desktop

Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?

2012-12-13 Thread andynormancx
pippin wrote: Do you know more about the status of this? So far, the code is still under GPL, not LGPL and this decision was more than a year ago. I think _all_ developers who have ever contributed have to agree to this and this was already the problem why they had to pull it from the App

[slim] Is Olive One the answer?

2012-12-12 Thread chenrikson
TechCrunch and others are today reporting on the upcoming Olive One music player, which appears to perform many of the functions the Touch does in a very high quality way. Interesting design, and they claim top-notch DAC's and a wide range of playback formats. $400 in July (or so). Check it

Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?

2012-12-12 Thread saeyedoc
The article I found stated that for now it doesn't come with analog or digital outputs, just speaker outputs from a 32 w/ch stereo amp. If they do come out with digital outputs, it could be a SB replacement. saeyedoc's

Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?

2012-12-12 Thread Julf
saeyedoc wrote: The article I found stated that for now it doesn't come with analog or digital outputs, just speaker outputs from a 32 w/ch stereo amp. If they do come out with digital outputs, it could be a SB replacement. And it seems to have it's own, very limited, internal storage,

Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?

2012-12-12 Thread azinck3
Took me a while to find the tech specs: http://www.myoliveone.com/Ones/tech_specs It does not have a traditional digital out. You could do Miracast streaming to a box with a form of digital out but a quick glance at the Miracast standard seems to indicate that most devices will probably only

Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?

2012-12-12 Thread chenrikson
Thanks for the tie to the specs. I note that the One seems to provide Bluetooth and WiFi output as well as the Miracast and Speaker outs, unless I misread something there. Certainly a nice solid (6 lbs.) and attractive unit.

Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?

2012-12-12 Thread Nick_G
It does look interesting. A pity with all the blather about sound quality that there isn't a coaxial digital output. Out of interest, do any of the other Olive streamers such as the 4HD have access to internet radio services in the same way the SBT does? I suppose I'm asking, are they roughly

Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?

2012-12-12 Thread smiggs
It should be noted that this isn't a finished product at all. It's doing the the kickstarter model to get off the ground http://www.indiegogo.com//OliveONE The comments page reads like they are still designing: Hey Colin and Chris, the ONE currently only has speaker outputs. However the board

Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?

2012-12-12 Thread froth
smiggs, you beat me to all the tech answers. From what I am reading it is almost as if this new Olive is focused to be the best of Sonos and Squeeze and at an affordable price. Now the devil is in the details but if they deliver on what they are saying it could be a pretty good solution. One

Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?

2012-12-12 Thread ajkidle
Reviewing their website just makes me sad that Logitech never knew what they were doing with Squeezebox. This Olive thing could be vaporware, but already it's got better marketing and design aesthetics than SB ever did. I hope they're successful - the day will come when we'll all need to update

Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?

2012-12-12 Thread Nick_G
It would be great if Olive could use a VLC-based audio/media player as this app is free, open-source and can play just about anything. The latest version plays the brand-new Opus audio codec. I'm sure this approach would virtually eliminate questions like why isn't x stream playing? Is this