Re: [slim] Is it possible? PC & Albumplayer (a windows media player) direct to Squeezebox

2010-03-12 Thread west_sounds
Phil Leigh;524405 Wrote: > Out of curiousity I downloaded the demo version of AlbumPlayer - here > are my initial impressions (which are obviously skewed by the fact I am > not familiar with the software!) > > 1) took 45 minutes+ to scan in my 32k Track database + about 15 more > minutes to fini

Re: [slim] Is it possible? PC & Albumplayer (a windows media player) direct to Squeezebox

2010-03-12 Thread bernt
I'm a very satisfied web ui user. Sometimes I even prefer it over iPeng. -- bernt 'LastFM' (http://www.last.fm/user/ottovonkopp/) SB3, SB BOOM - SC 7.4.2 - vortex...@hp SFF iPod Touch\iPeng bernt's Profile: http://forums.

Re: [slim] Is it possible? PC & Albumplayer (a windows media player) direct to Squeezebox

2010-03-12 Thread Phil Leigh
toby10;524446 Wrote: > SB players are about not needing direct computer interaction for music > playback combined with excellent audio output. I’d bet the vast > majority of SB users access the web UI control mostly for management, > settings, and maintenance purposes. For enjoying their music

Re: [slim] Is it possible? PC & Albumplayer (a windows media player) direct to Squeezebox

2010-03-12 Thread toby10
SB players are about not needing direct computer interaction for music playback combined with excellent audio output. I’d bet the vast majority of SB users access the web UI control mostly for management, settings, and maintenance purposes. For enjoying their music collection (or the extensive l

Re: [slim] Is it possible? PC & Albumplayer (a windows media player) direct to Squeezebox

2010-03-12 Thread alfista
west_sounds;524380 Wrote: > > there is no way i could live with that software I have just uninstalled > the lot, squeezecentre, squeezeplay and moose. as good as the hardware > is because of the software it is not for me, I will wait for an > alternative. The way technology is moving on I should

Re: [slim] Is it possible? PC & Albumplayer (a windows media player) direct to Squeezebox

2010-03-12 Thread Phil Leigh
west_sounds;524380 Wrote: > ive been playing with the squeeze centre all night and i have really > come to the conclusion now that it is terrible. I gave it a few days > just to make sure i wasn’t being unfair but the SB software is > absolutely dismal. the hardware is first class probably the be

Re: [slim] Is it possible? PC & Albumplayer (a windows media player) direct to Squeezebox

2010-03-11 Thread west_sounds
ive been playing with the squeeze centre all night and i have really come to the conclusion now that it is terrible. I gave it a few days just to make sure i wasn’t being unfair but the SB software is absolutely dismal. the hardware is first class probably the best out there but it is horribly let

Re: [slim] Is it possible? PC & Albumplayer (a windows media player) direct to Squeezebox

2010-03-11 Thread JeffHart
west_sounds;524214 Wrote: > > > Software is always changing I would have thought that it has to be best > to make hardware that can be used with what ever is the user wants or > what the fashion is at the moment. > > Hopefully Logitech will read some of this and take it on board. Ok - you've

Re: [slim] Is it possible? PC & Albumplayer (a windows media player) direct to Squeezebox

2010-03-11 Thread moley6knipe
I think the beauty of these devices is choice, myself: you can use the IR remote, or a Controller, or an SB Touch, or an iPod Touch with one of the 3rd party remotes, or a web interface. You can install to a NAS if you want. Or you can choose to use mysqueezebox.com and leave your computer off.

Re: [slim] Is it possible? PC & Albumplayer (a windows media player) direct to Squeezebox

2010-03-11 Thread west_sounds
MrSinatra;524138 Wrote: > ever since i got a SB, i have felt the same way: > > love the hardware, want to use it, but generally really dislike the > software. > > why slim/logitech won't develop plugins to let things like itunes, > winamp, and WMP power the hardware i have never figured out. i

Re: [slim] Is it possible? PC & Albumplayer (a windows media player) direct to Squeezebox

2010-03-10 Thread MrSinatra
aubuti;524161 Wrote: > I think it's easy to underestimate how much of Logitech's limited and > diminishing software development resources would be required to write > and maintain a plugin for some other company's software. depends how its done. if it was simply a middleware layer, that took th

Re: [slim] Is it possible? PC & Albumplayer (a windows media player) direct to Squeezebox

2010-03-10 Thread aubuti
MrSinatra;524138 Wrote: > you would think logitech would like their hardware, which is where they > get revenue, to appeal to anyone who wants to combine digital music with > a stereo. but no, they force SBS on you if you want to use the > hardware. its a real shame and missed opportunity imo.

Re: [slim] Is it possible? PC & Albumplayer (a windows media player) direct to Squeezebox

2010-03-10 Thread MrSinatra
ever since i got a SB, i have felt the same way: love the hardware, want to use it, but generally really dislike the software. why slim/logitech won't develop plugins to let things like itunes, winamp, and WMP power the hardware i have never figured out. it would be SO popular, and isn't it the

Re: [slim] Is it possible? PC & Albumplayer (a windows media player) direct to Squeezebox

2010-03-10 Thread aubuti
west_sounds;524131 Wrote: > But I would rather get two recivers rather than one and a remote. This > is probably another post but does anyone know a simplified way to get > them configured without the remote? At present your only options for configuring the SBR are (a) the SB Controller, or (b) t

Re: [slim] Is it possible? PC & Albumplayer (a windows media player) direct to Squeezebox

2010-03-10 Thread west_sounds
tcutting;524037 Wrote: > I would argue with your statement that "the only way I will get the > highest sound quality is not with a wireless device at all, but to plug > my laptops usbs direct into something like the dacmagic or V-DAC." With > the squeezebox setup, the fact that it's wireless doe

Re: [slim] Is it possible? PC & Albumplayer (a windows media player) direct to Squeezebox

2010-03-10 Thread Phil Leigh
Yeah I totally disagree with that statement! - Whilst the V-DAC is for sure a good DAC, using the USB port of any computer is NOT going to give the absolute best possible quality. Using wireless or ethernet to interconnect computer with "DAC" is preferable - no noise/ground loops! (and I don't mea

Re: [slim] Is it possible? PC & Albumplayer (a windows media player) direct to Squeezebox

2010-03-10 Thread tcutting
west_sounds;524035 Wrote: > Thanks for all the posts it has really given me something to think > about. There is no doubt that the Squeeze box is a fantastic product and > I can see its appeal. I don’t think it is going to be easy to get the > best possible sound and with the interface that we li

Re: [slim] Is it possible? PC & Albumplayer (a windows media player) direct to Squeezebox

2010-03-10 Thread west_sounds
Thanks for all the posts it has really given me something to think about. There is no doubt that the Squeeze box is a fantastic product and I can see its appeal. I don’t think it is going to be easy to get the best possible sound and with the interface that we like to use in our house. Going on w

Re: [slim] Is it possible? PC & Albumplayer (a windows media player) direct to Squeezebox

2010-03-10 Thread JeffHart
Sorry if I was unclear - you're describing the Rocketfish solution or something like it - no cables, wireless, not FM, etc. This is not an endorsement - saw them at Best Buy one day and remembered them. http://www.rocketfishproducts.com/pc-217-5-rocketfish-wireless-hd-audio-starter-kit.aspx Giv

Re: [slim] Is it possible? PC & Albumplayer (a windows media player) direct to Squeezebox

2010-03-10 Thread aubuti
My neighbor has a Linksys WMB54G Wireless-G Music Bridge. It appears to be discontinued by Linksys, but you can find it on Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Linksys-Cisco-WMB54G-Wireless-G-Bridge/dp/B000E5E6KG). It appears to use wifi (TCP/IP). It looks like a bit of a kludge to me, and he is only sem

Re: [slim] Is it possible? PC & Albumplayer (a windows media player) direct to Squeezebox

2010-03-10 Thread west_sounds
a long wireless extention lead has been mentioned. but what? and the quality has to be high, if not quite as good as SB then something which is high quality No FM transmitter. -- west_sounds west_sounds's Profile: http://f

Re: [slim] Is it possible? PC & Albumplayer (a windows media player) direct to Squeezebox

2010-03-10 Thread aubuti
west_sounds;523962 Wrote: > I love the idea of the squeezebox wireless audio, but the squeeze centre > software is slow and awkward’ish to use direct from a PC unlike > Albumplayer. As one of the forum members said it was designed to be used > from a remote rather than direct from PC. As for soun

Re: [slim] Is it possible? PC & Albumplayer (a windows media player) direct to Squeezebox

2010-03-10 Thread Phil Leigh
ModelCitizen;523973 Wrote: > Personally I run the server software but only really used it to > configure my sound players originally. For day to day control I use the > very snappy and simple to use iPeng on my iPhone and iPod. IMHO this > control method is far superior to that offered by the SBS

Re: [slim] Is it possible? PC & Albumplayer (a windows media player) direct to Squeezebox

2010-03-10 Thread ModelCitizen
Personally I run the server software but only really used it to configure my sound players originally. For day to day control I use the very snappy and simple to use iPeng on my iPhone and iPod. IMHO this control method is far superior to that offered by the SBS interface, Moose, or anything that

Re: [slim] Is it possible? PC & Albumplayer (a windows media player) direct to Squeezebox

2010-03-10 Thread Phil Leigh
west_sounds;523962 Wrote: > I love the idea of the squeezebox wireless audio, but the squeeze centre > software is slow and awkward’ish to use direct from a PC unlike > Albumplayer. As one of the forum members said it was designed to be used > from a remote rather than direct from PC. As for soun

Re: [slim] Is it possible? PC & Albumplayer (a windows media player) direct to Squeezebox

2010-03-10 Thread west_sounds
I love the idea of the squeezebox wireless audio, but the squeeze centre software is slow and awkward’ish to use direct from a PC unlike Albumplayer. As one of the forum members said it was designed to be used from a remote rather than direct from PC. As for sound quality Albumplayer does include

Re: [slim] Is it possible? PC & Albumplayer (a windows media player) direct to Squeezebox

2010-03-09 Thread aubuti
tcutting;523812 Wrote: > You might consider the "Classic" (aka Squeezebox3). It's a discontinued > model, but I believe it's still available from several retailers, the > sound quality is basically equal to the receiver, but it has a screen > and IR remote, is very easy to setup and is a very st

Re: [slim] Is it possible? PC & Albumplayer (a windows media player) direct to Squeezebox

2010-03-09 Thread tcutting
FYI - the receivers are "supposed" to be available for sale outside of the Duet package, but currently they cannot be found at any US retailers INCLUDING logitech - posts from Logitech employees claim they are supposed to fix the situation, but to my knowledge it hasn't happened. You might conside

Re: [slim] Is it possible? PC & Albumplayer (a windows media player) direct to Squeezebox

2010-03-09 Thread west_sounds
I am almost buying the SB but I do love albumplayer though, I have tried squeeze centre without the hardware and AP is much faster and easier to use even for people who have never used a pc I would say, but the whole idea of the squeeze box is becoming more attractive to me all the time. I didn’t

Re: [slim] Is it possible? PC & Albumplayer (a windows media player) direct to Squeezebox

2010-03-09 Thread Phil Leigh
west_sounds;523761 Wrote: > not sure what the wave input plug in is but I know the dacmagic and > others have a usb and optical input. if the PC sends just a digital > signal a 0 or 1s to the DAC to convert into analog I cant see the > problem, if its wirelessly done or not. The same as if the sq

Re: [slim] Is it possible? PC & Albumplayer (a windows media player) direct to Squeezebox

2010-03-09 Thread bpa
Any device which takes the audio from a Windows application which is playing to a Windows audio device then Windows audio subsystem will have altered it (e.g. usually upsampling to 48kHz from 44.1kHz) compared to the file on the disk. SqueezeBox server (SBS) takes the bits from the disk and does

Re: [slim] Is it possible? PC & Albumplayer (a windows media player) direct to Squeezebox

2010-03-09 Thread JeffHart
Sounds like you are looking for something more along the lines of the Rocketfish wireless audio products - they accept an audio input and broadcast it wirelessly to a receiver; options include a receiver that will provide audio outputs to connect to an existing sound system or wireless speakers.

Re: [slim] Is it possible? PC & Albumplayer (a windows media player) direct to Squeezebox

2010-03-09 Thread west_sounds
I now the dacmagic and others have a usb and optical input and if the PC sends just a digital signal a 0 or 1s to the DAC to convert into analog I cant see the problem, if its wirelessly done or not. The same as if the squeeze box sent a digital signal via the optical output to a dac. Its either a

Re: [slim] Is it possible? PC & Albumplayer (a windows media player) direct to Squeezebox

2010-03-09 Thread Mnyb
Wav input plug would possibly do away with some of that good soundquality a squeezebox have. Is there any other product that would be more suitable ? The squeezebox is not a long cable to your soundcard, it's aimed at another type of user. So using it only for some special corner case would not

Re: [slim] Is it possible? PC & Albumplayer (a windows media player) direct to Squeezebox

2010-03-09 Thread west_sounds
thanks for the replies so far. Yes maybe there is a better product out there but i havent found one yet. what i really need is a 'long wireless cable from my audio out' thats it. I only went for the squeeze box because it does have a very good dac built into it already which would save me buying

Re: [slim] Is it possible? PC & Albumplayer (a windows media player) direct to Squeezebox

2010-03-09 Thread moley6knipe
Any box like a Squeezebox will need some sort of software to drive it, I'd imagine. It sounds like all you want is a wire-free way of taking an audio output from your laptop into your hi-fi, so maybe something like a Bluetooth AV tx/rx jobby? Google "bluetooth receiver transmitter" - if your lapt

Re: [slim] Is it possible? PC & Albumplayer (a windows media player) direct to Squeezebox

2010-03-09 Thread dsdreamer
west_sounds;523673 Wrote: > Hi > > I wonder if anyone can give me some help. I am desperate to get some > wireless music. So far I have looked at the apple airport express and > the squeezebox receiver. From what I can gather the Squeezebox is the > highest quality audio (as the airport express

Re: [slim] Is it possible? PC & Albumplayer (a windows media player) direct to Squeezebox

2010-03-09 Thread Mnyb
west_sounds;523740 Wrote: > thanks for the replies so far. Yes maybe there is a better product out > there but i havent found one yet. > > what i really need is a 'long wireless cable from my audio out' thats > it. I only considered the squeeze box because it does have a very good > dac built i

[slim] Is it possible? PC & Albumplayer (a windows media player) direct to Squeezebox

2010-03-09 Thread west_sounds
Hi I wonder if anyone can give me some help. I am desperate to get some wireless music. So far I have looked at the apple airport express and the squeezebox receiver. From what I can gather the Squeezebox is the highest quality audio (as the airport express can add some pops and crackles in the