andifor wrote:
> => The difference is subtle, but I can hear it. And please don't ask me
> to explain, *why* it sounds different. I have no clue of the technical
> details :o)
Thanks for the description! How many tests did you do, and how many of
those did you get right? And how did you
Julf wrote:
> If it is just a subjective opinion, and we treat it as such, then yes.
> Some of us might still want to understand the circumstances that lead to
> it.
Easy:
- connect the mR (microRendu) on one input of my DAC
- connect the Receiver on another input of my DAC
- sync the two
drmatt wrote:
> Like all individual's opinions, we are really not interested how they
> were decided upon. When he wants to write a scientific paper about it
> then he'll have to show his working...
If it is just a subjective opinion, and we treat it as such, then yes.
Some of us might still
Like all individual's opinions, we are really not interested how they
were decided upon.
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andifor wrote:
> Yes, I have.
Good. How did you do it?
"To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this
fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt
edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953
Julf wrote:
> Have you ensured levels are matched?
Yes, I have.
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Squeezemenicely wrote:
> Nope, sorry you got it wrong. The Receiver and the Transporter were/are
> complete devices including the DAC. Therefore they can sound different,
> since all is done in the device and the audio is output to your
> amplifyer.
You're right, the DAC is important as well. I
The SB devices that I still use are the Booms and Radios; the screens on
them makes them great devices for bedroom and kitchen. But they are only
ever going to be of interest to people who already have LMS.
For real music listening I can't see what hardware could be made to
please everyone. I'm
andifor wrote:
> Well, you are invited to check for differences between a Receiver and a
> microRendu. I have them both available and can connect them my DAC. - I
> don't say, which device sound better (I just say, there is a
> difference). Where ever this difference comes from.
Have you
Squeezemenicely wrote:
> With the Sonore and Pi (without a DAC installed) you only have a
> computer that runs the software, the "sound" is then dealt by with a DAC
> that you connect to the USB port. It - if nothing is broken - has
> nothing to do with the quality or "sound" of the audio, that
Pi has analogue audio output, as do most DAC hats, so yeah they can
"sound".
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andifor wrote:
> Talking about sound: If the Receiver sounds different than the
> Transporter, a Sonore device might sound different than a Pi.
>
>
Nope, sorry you got it wrong. The Receiver and the Transporter were/are
complete devices including the DAC. Therefore they can sound different,
drmatt wrote:
> Years of experience tells us that people will pay lots and lots of money
> for a nice case...
>
Talking about sound: If the Receiver sounds different than the
Transporter, a Sonore device might sound different than a Pi.
Talking about cases: I prefer the Receivers case to the
Years of experience tells us that people will pay lots and lots of money
for a nice case...
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Squeezemenicely wrote:
> Wow, just seen the prices on sonore - pretty steep for a "Pi in
> disguise" ... Well, no idea what they are really using as hardware, but
> running Squeezelite etc.
>
> What is the point of buying such a device? Just get a Pi with a DAC or
> connect to the DAC of your
Wow, just seen the prices on sonore - pretty steep for a "Pi in
disguise" ... Well, no idea what they are really using as hardware, but
running Squeezelite etc.
What is the point of buying such a device? Just get a Pi with a DAC or
connect to the DAC of your dreams. It is all the same, except
Antoniop wrote:
> I recently bought a new (!) squeeze radio on amazon market place and
> would buy a touch or a transporter if I could. I didn't found similar
> products on the market that could work as nicely with LMS. Fortunately
> all my squeezebox devices are still working!
>
Those who
I realize I started the latest beat-the-dead-horse topic, but I really
think with new sections of walmart and bestbuy dedicated to bluetooth
speakers, that connected, syncable speakers are absolutely the next big
thing.
Even Sonos might be a little ahead of the market right now.
Chromecast
nolan wrote:
> How strong do you think Sonos are though? I can't see much of a future
> for them unless they get acquired by Amazon or Apple. I know they are in
> a lot of the big name stores but they have laid staff off and failed to
> follow through with the voice control they announced. I can
The march of cheap, convenient, mediocrity will always win in the long
term.
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How strong do you think Sonos are though? I can't see much of a future
for them unless they get acquired by Amazon or Apple. I know they are in
a lot of the big name stores but they have laid staff off and failed to
follow through with the voice control they announced. I can see they
being a good
jfo wrote:
> I suspect that Logitech has continued to support this project to protect
> their intellectual property while taking a "wait and see" approach to
> the possible options that might unfold which could allow them to extract
> some value from their investment. It is certainly not because
I suspect that Logitech has continued to support this project to protect
their intellectual property while taking a "wait and see" approach to
the possible options that might unfold which could allow them to extract
some value from their investment. It is certainly not because they are
nice guy's
I really just hope that the people that are truly keeping this going
(those here) are thinking ahead to a time when the domains and support
are completely gone. I feel that they are (I'm not on this forum enough
to know). I am impressed with how the loss of Spotify was quickly
remedied by
garym wrote:
> Excellent point. Every day I'm surprised when I click on this forum to
> see what's up and it actually works versus a "page does not exist"
> message. It's actually quite amazing that this forum still exists. It
> will be sad to see it go (when it does).
Well they renewed the
alfista wrote:
> So even if Logitech, to put it bluntly, failed, they did so in a fairly
> nice way.
Excellent point. Every day I'm surprised when I click on this forum to
see what's up and it actually works versus a "page does not exist"
message. It's actually quite amazing that this forum
cliveb wrote:
> Logitech were, and always would have been, the wrong company to buy Slim
> Devices. Their core businesses were just miles apart.
Perhaps, but I think most other companies would have struggled to keep
the product line going, and most other companies would have wasted no
time
drmatt wrote:
> Hah, works for me :)
>
>
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.. with wifi i forgot that :D
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toby10 wrote:
> For SlimDevices it was the perfect time to sell. Taking into account
> Logitechs business model it was the wrong time for Logitech to buy.
Logitech were, and always would have been, the wrong company to buy Slim
Devices. Their core businesses were just miles apart.
The
The story goes much deeper than well ever know. I'm sure Michael
Herger knows all the dirt but is unable say so publicly. ;)
What little we do know
. Soon after Logitech acquired SlimDevices there
was a major reshuffling of managers and department personnel at
Logitech. The few individuals
Mnyb wrote:
>
> Anyhow some stubborn fellow wants to sync 24/192 pcm over 5 players :D
> and comes to our forum.
Hah, works for me :)
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drmatt wrote:
> Sonos also made the executive decision to cripple their digital outputs,
> for reasons no one can fathom; nor do they seem interested in sorting it
> out.
>
>
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Probably due to old tech .
more than 16/44.1 does not really do anything
One of the most attractive aspects of Squeezebox is the ability to use
it (server and hardware) with high definition music, if one wants to. I
have an optical connection to my stereo and have really loved the
ability to listen to my surround sound music. There are things I
wouldn't mind being
drmatt wrote:
> Sonos also made the executive decision to cripple their digital outputs,
> for reasons no one can fathom; nor do they seem interested in sorting it
> out.
And that must have cost them about five sales or something?
I honestly don't think the majority of potential Sonos buyers
Sonos also made the executive decision to cripple their digital outputs,
for reasons no one can fathom; nor do they seem interested in sorting it
out.
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d6jg wrote:
> My point was that Sonos had started to become accepted in the consumer
> electronics field just as Logitech pulled out.
Yes. Only a different subset of the consumers than the Squeezeboxes
caters to. The fact that there was enough buyers to support Sonos
doesn't suggest that there
cliveb wrote:
> Sonos was around long before Logitech bought Slim Devices. The two
> product lines were always at opposite ends of the market. Drawing an
> analogy with HiFi, Sonos appealed to the sort of person who would buy an
> integrated B system, whereas the Squeezebox system appealed to
d6jg wrote:
> What is crystal clear though is that they killed the product line at
> exactly the wrong time just as other high products such as Sonos etc
> were being launched.
Sonos was around long before Logitech bought Slim Devices. The two
product lines were always at opposite ends of the
Roon bussines model is not viable for squeezebox either .
Software = open source LMS = no revenue .
Squeezebox = DIY our own rpi3 = no revenue .
Enhanced interlinked metadata so that you can build a roon like UX =
licensed and costly (se all the trouble our comunity had with the lyrics
plugin
d6jg wrote:
> What is crystal clear though is that they killed the product line at
> exactly the wrong time just as other high products such as Sonos etc
> were being launched.
Is it?
Sonos had already gained good traction by the time Logitech shut down
production, but I don't see the relevance.
mherger wrote:
> > Even if this is a niche . For example ROON is trying to get piece of
> the
> > pie by selling software . With a kind of licensing model for,hardware
> > they have no hardware of their own .
>
> I thought this would come up. But then that software is Roon's business.
>
>
Even if this is a niche . For example ROON is trying to get piece of the
pie by selling software . With a kind of licensing model for,hardware
they have no hardware of their own .
I thought this would come up. But then that software is Roon's business.
They're small and obviously happy to
Even if this is a niche . For example ROON is trying to get piece of the
pie by selling software . With a kind of licensing model for,hardware
they have no hardware of their own .
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As many have said it ain't happening. Still, I offer my thanks to
Logitech in general and to Michael specifically for maintaining these
forums and LMS. As others have said the plug and play w no
system/software maintenance is where most are today. Me, I still prefer
the "old School" collecting,
d6jg wrote:
> All this doesn't quite explain how you can still buy a brand new
> Transporter SE on eBay and that new stocks of same keep appearing. Are
> Logitech still manufacturing but only Transporters?
Not only transporters are appearing. I missed a UE radio sale on
amazon.fr some months
.
This topic will always be discussed until one of two things happen,
Squeezeboxen start showing up at Best Buy or Logitech goes out of
business! Are either of those two things going to happen anytime soon, I
don't think so, so the topic will live on.
Logitech should be commended daily for their
Those are "new, old stock" transporters. There is no manufacturing for a
decade or so.
LMS was always too hard for people, Sonos fixed that and appeals to the
Apple buying industrial design generation to boot, despite being broadly
mediocre for various reasons. Logitech had a ground breaking
toby10 wrote:
> Exactly. Those and numerous other reasons are why it is a dead product.
> *WE* all love them and *WE* get/use the SB advantages. But the mass
> market could care less, and for very understandable reasons. In a world
> of streaming compressed music on a mobile device listened
Antoniop wrote:
> Well, I am not sure. I don't know much these products, but SONOS is sold
> everywhere and Bose have also a similar (?) product line.
> Anyway, people say they're very easy to use, which is not the case with
> LMS.
> LMS is too complicated for old people and also for most of
I think Logitech could, and maybe should, launch another product line as
squeezeboxes devices, but I don't think they will, unless they change
their marketing strategy, which is to sell small devices, easy to use,
not too expensive, for the young.
Like... the UE Boom family of products?...
toby10 wrote:
>
> It's dead as a viable consumer product offering.
Well, I am not sure. I don't know much these products, but SONOS is sold
everywhere and Bose have also a similar (?) product line.
Anyway, people say they're very easy to use, which is not the case with
LMS.
LMS is too
I can live with the current status quo as far as Logitech gives Michael
enough room to do his thing.
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Boom (Dining room), 1x piCorePlayer (jacuzzi), 1x piCorePlayer (Garden)
1x OSMC + Squeezelite (Movie room), 1x Touch
FredFredrickson wrote:
> Who thinks Logitech should resurrect the brand and start
> selling squeezeboxen again?
This has been discussed in here for years, over and over. It will never
happen. It will never be resurrected, nor sold, nor licensed to a third
party, etc..
It's dead
Short answer: Nah, at least not a Squeezebox brand based on the
architecture we know and (mostly) love.
Don't get me wrong, I think the Squeezebox ecosystem is genuinely
amazing. There seems to be no limit to the adaptability and
extensibility, constantly made to run on new platforms with new
Actually I suspect you'll find a lot of people on the forum are quite
happy with the status quo. The Pi/DAC/open source LMS solution is very
compelling. Any reignite of Logitech official Interest could well see
them grabbing that back in-house. At the very least it would likely be
based around
I think Logitech got a little ahead of itself buying slim devices while
the technology was still in the early-adapter phase, but since Logitech
canned the brand, I've seen Sonos everywhere, as well as a number of
competitors that have displays at Target, Best Buy, and even Walmart
over the years.
Would this update get iHeart radio stations to play on the Squeezebox
Radio?
No, iHeartRadio currently is not supported on the SB.
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Would this update get iHeart radio stations to play on the Squeezebox
Radio?
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> thanks but that guide is too difficult. is there any easier way to pdate
> to 7.3.3 ot 7.8?
It's not difficult to update to 7.8. It's difficult (but worth trying)
to update to 7.9. So just skip the steps that are just for the 7.9.
nervoteso wrote:
> thanks but that guide is too difficult. is there any easier way to pdate
> to 7.3.3 ot 7.8?
Here is a quick and dirty, cobbled together with cut and paste from
other postings here and elsewhere.
You don't have to come from Barcelona to be able to do this;
20368
First
thanks but that guide is too difficult. is there any easier way to pdate
to 7.3.3 ot 7.8?
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>
>
just change the version if you wish
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hi how to update from 7.7.2 to 7.3.3 on qnap ts 119?
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I like Squeeze Cntrl, and have also used Orange Squeeze. I preferred
both to the Logitech app, before the latter stopped working after
Android updates. They're both happily resident on my Z3, and don't cost
much.
LMS on a dedicated music server (FitPC3)
Transporter (Ethernet) - main music
I've got the same problem on my Samsung Galaxy S4 with Android v5.0.1 -
the app loads but is unable to find the players on the network. Guess I
shall have to delete and consider installing another controller app. I
really only use it as an alternative remote control when I'm on the
wrong side of
> toby10 :
> Undoing the Android update is not wise. It was updated to fix a
> security flaw (which you just removed).
I'm aware.
I just uninstalled it to see if it would work.
It is now back.
> Update your Android's to the latest release then
Earlier this year, the Logitech Squeezebox app stopped working, first on
my Sony Xperia Z phone, and sometime later it stopped working on my
Xperia Z tablet.
The app just displays "Free you music" and then nothing more happens.
I suspect that this was caused by system upgrades on the devices.
Undoing the Android update is not wise. It was updated to fix a
security flaw (which you just removed). Update your Android's to the
latest release then use one of several third party Android control apps
for SqueezeBox.
Are you connecting to MySqueezeBox.com or LMS running on your computer?
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Thank you for the reply. I have a black Logitech radio that I bought at
Best Buy in 2011. The M/N # is X-R0001 if that helps. I have quite a few
stations/streams saved in my Favorites on the radio - not on my PC. I
connect to the Internet using the router that is connected to my PC. I'm
sorry, I
howardbc wrote:
Thank you for the reply. I have a black Logitech radio that I bought at
Best Buy in 2011. The M/N # is X-R0001 if that helps. I have quite a few
stations/streams saved in my Favorites on the radio - not on my PC. I
connect to the Internet using the router that is connected to
Thank you so much to everyone who responded to my plea for help!
I had unplugged the radio several times over the last few days, but I
plugged it back in within seconds. That didn't fix the connection
problem. But an hour or so ago I unplugged it and brought it to the room
where my PC is to send
I've had my Logitech Squeezebox since 2011. It's always worked pretty
well but a few days ago it suddenly wouldn't open/play. I get the
message Problem Connecting. I've tried reconnecting several times. My
PC and router are working fine. No changes. No added software that could
affect the radio.
Tiresome. April 1st humor, why is this still a thing?
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wo some humor/fun, what is the sense of anything ? Now I am off to
listen to my 1910 Fruitgum Co. tunes.
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Gary this is evil - I believe it for a good 10 seconds. It was even more
credible knowing that, last week I was in one of these consumer
multimedia shops and they now all have a special place for multi room
audio with a nice display of Sonos, Bose and Samsung systems and
-finally- people that
philippe_44 wrote:
Gary this is evil - I believed it for a good 10 seconds. It was even
more credible knowing that, last week I was in one of these consumer
multimedia shops and they now all have a special place for multi room
audio with a nice display of Sonos, Bose and Samsung systems and
Mnyb wrote:
I liked this one :)
Especially how to use people's defiecent attention span for kicks , the
text starts reasonably credible , but after a while it goes of a tangent
to being more and more ridiculous .
Yes, I thought the LogiMusic streaming service was a strong message
that
garym wrote:
Yes, I thought the LogiMusic streaming service was a strong message
that this was April Fools!
More a wish list than an April fools day joke eh Gary? ;)
For me, now that I can make a pretty decent headless player with a
Raspberry Pi, I2S DAC and a pretty case - all for less
TheLastMan wrote:
The real magic with the Squeezebox system lies in LMS, and the many
willing volunteers here that keep it running.
Very true. But for some, the additional ingredient is the
mysqueezebox.com in the background. Without this, things like Pandora
and SiriusXM won't work.
[image: http://ir.logitech.com/common/alerts/LOGI/default/logo.gif]
Logitech Announces Plans for Revived Squeezebox Music Player
Line
Lausanne, Switzerland
April 1, 2015
The Company is proud to announce a return to the networked
In related news, Neil Young announces that Pono will be shutting down
effective immediately in light of the Logitech announcement. Careful
observers of the video clip Neil Young posted making this announcement
noted a Logitech Squeezebox Touch player connected to the stereo system
to Mr.
Is this for real Gary ? Its way after mid day!
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Ditton F20s - and connected Analogue for Zone 2 - Sony TA FE 320 -
Sennheiser RS 130
*Office* - SB3 - Sony
Hehehhe got you! Hint: Look at your calendar.
Rg
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Signature amp Revel Performa F208 speakers.
Home Theatre: Touch (Wired) Pioneer VSX 919 Energy Take 5 Classic
5.1, Touch FW
God, I don't even know if I think it's funny ;-)
/Stig Nygaard
http://www.rockland.dk
http://www.last.fm/user/rockland
http://www.discogs.com/user/StigNygaard
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rgro wrote:
Hehehhe got you! Hint: Look at your calendar.
Its 15:30 here in UK
Such things are supposed to stop at mid day
It is very well written though and if only ...
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d6jg wrote:
Its 15:30 here in UK
Such things are supposed to stop at mid day
No such limitation here, across the pond.
Rg
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Signature amp Revel Performa F208 speakers.
Home
yep, it makes me sad too, given that this *should* be the announcement.
Squeezeboxes and LMS are still the premier way to deal with digital
music streaming.
p.s. Neil Young really did like Devo and had plans for recording with
them at some point.
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Gray,
Well done. LOL. ;)
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I liked this one :)
Especially how to use people's defiecent attention span for kicks , the
text starts reasonably credible , but after a while it goes of a tangent
to being more and more ridiculous .
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Damn
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Does the described above reset procedure work for stopping that
degaussing sound? - remove power, hold down 1 button on remote and at
the same time reapply power to the transporter until the screen goes
into reset mode.
I too have it constantly on my Transporter which is really annoying.
Thanks
https://gigaom.com/2014/09/17/logitech-invests-in-the-smart-home-with-harmony-remote-and-hub/
Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.0 - 1410276236 @ Wed Sep 10 04:02:02
UTC 2014
Operating system: Debian - EN - utf8Platform Architecture:
x86_64-linux
Oh, boy. Logitech jumps on another bandwagon. BFD.
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I recently bought the Harmony Hub, including the remote. It's designed
primarily as a smartphone app, which is reasonably well designed, but I
wanted a remote with buttons to replace my Harmony One. I like having a
remote that doesn't have a screen that can break (as occurred with both
my
pippin wrote:
Could you tell me exactly where that would be? I can't find Yesterday's
programs in any of my UIs but maybe that's because I'm not in the UK
Sorry for the delay in replying I have been away. Perhaps I did not
express myself well. Yesterday's should perhaps have been The
previous
Yea, as you can see in the discussion above, I eventually got that. And
yes, it's an issue in the App, use a different one if you care about the
feature, I wouldn't expect to see a fix of the Logi App.
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Logitech UE
I have used the BBC iPlayer plugin, now v1.2.12 by Triode, for some
years with my Duet. It works perfectly on the Logitech remote, the web
interface and the Logitech Squeezebox Controller App on my Android
phone. However, the Logitech Squeezebox App in my iPad (v4 iOS7) fails
to display
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