[slim] Re: MP3Gain, MP3Tag, iTunes craziness

2007-01-30 Thread Mark Lanctot
DrNic;175320 Wrote: MP3Gain will let you change the reference point (as said above) but his only works when the value is written to the file (ie the track data is altered - rather than reading a value from a tag). Otherwise the analysis value stored to tag is like the value stored to tag

[slim] Re: MP3Gain, MP3Tag, iTunes craziness

2007-01-30 Thread thing-fish
eschurr;175508 Wrote: None taken. :) this article was VERY interesting. http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=24527st=0 it leads me to wonder: why screw around with ReplayGain tags? Why not just use MP3Gain to volume adjust the files so they play the same volume in

[slim] Re: MP3Gain, MP3Tag, iTunes craziness

2007-01-30 Thread thing-fish
eschurr;175508 Wrote: None taken. :) this article was VERY interesting. http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=24527st=0 it leads me to wonder: why screw around with ReplayGain tags? Why not just use MP3Gain to volume adjust the files so they play the same volume in

[slim] Re: MP3Gain, MP3Tag, iTunes craziness

2007-01-30 Thread eschurr
thanks -- that's consistent with my experience, too. I can't see any reason to write ReplayGain tags (which only work with smart devices like a Squeezebox) as vs. adjusting the Gain on the file so it plays at the desired level on ANY playback device (like an iPod). Can you? -- eschurr

[slim] Re: MP3Gain, MP3Tag, iTunes craziness

2007-01-30 Thread DrNic
eschurr;175742 Wrote: thanks -- that's consistent with my experience, too. I can't see any reason to write ReplayGain tags (which only work with smart devices like a Squeezebox) as vs. adjusting the Gain on the file so it plays at the desired level on ANY playback device (like an iPod).

[slim] Re: MP3Gain, MP3Tag, iTunes craziness

2007-01-30 Thread eschurr
Your explanation makes a lot of sense. it sounds like: for MP3 files, adjusting the Gain directly is ok (certainly no worse than using MP3s in the first place) and will work for any device that plays MP3 (that's good). for lossless formats (FLAC, etc) ReplayGain values are the way to go

[slim] Re: MP3Gain, MP3Tag, iTunes craziness

2007-01-30 Thread Mark Lanctot
eschurr;175772 Wrote: for lossless formats (FLAC, etc) ReplayGain values are the way to go becasue they don't alter the musical part of the files. But of course, no tools exist that can alter the volume of lossless files the way MP3Gain can for MP3s. Of course there are 'normalization'

[slim] Re: MP3Gain, MP3Tag, iTunes craziness

2007-01-29 Thread DrNic
eschurr;175136 Wrote: Can anyone explain this? I have a sample MP3 file where SlimServer shows a volume adjustment value of -13.50 (i think it came from an iTunNorm tag). Check this out: 1. use MP3Tag to delete the iTunNorm tag. There were no ReplayGain values in the files. 2.

[slim] Re: MP3Gain, MP3Tag, iTunes craziness

2007-01-29 Thread DrNic
thesil;175167 Wrote: I am not being facetious here, but isn't about the music? If it aint broke, don't fix it; just enjoy the tunes, INMHO Respectfully - 1) this doesn't help the Original Poster, and 2) volume normalisation might be extremely important to some to enjoy the music, particularly

[slim] Re: MP3Gain, MP3Tag, iTunes craziness

2007-01-29 Thread thesil
No offense intended -- thesil thesil's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9197 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32178 ___

[slim] Re: MP3Gain, MP3Tag, iTunes craziness

2007-01-29 Thread eschurr
None taken. :) this article was VERY interesting. http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=24527st=0 it leads me to wonder: why screw around with ReplayGain tags? Why not just use MP3Gain to volume adjust the files so they play the same volume in SB and all other MP3 players?

[slim] Re: MP3Gain, MP3Tag, iTunes craziness

2007-01-28 Thread SteveEast
Have you got Mp3tag set to show ALL tag types in the songs? You need to have the Tags in File column (%_tag%) showing. You can use Mp3tag to strip all those annoying ITunNorm tags. Steve. -- SteveEast SteveEast's

[slim] Re: MP3Gain, MP3Tag, iTunes craziness

2007-01-28 Thread eschurr
yes, i do have it set to read all tags. and the tags in file column is displayed, and it says the file contains APEv2 and ID3v2.2 tags. I have used MP3Tag to strip the iTunNorm tag in the past, but after running MP3Gain over the file the iTunNorm tag doesn't show in MP3Tag. I doubt MP3Gain

[slim] Re: MP3Gain, MP3Tag, iTunes craziness

2007-01-28 Thread eschurr
Can anyone explain this? I have a sample MP3 file where SlimServer shows a volume adjustment value of -13.50 (i think it came from an iTunNorm tag). Check this out: 1. use MP3Tag to delete the iTunNorm tag. There were no ReplayGain values in the files. 2. In Slimserver, clear library,

[slim] Re: MP3Gain, MP3Tag, iTunes craziness

2007-01-28 Thread thesil
I am not being facetious here, but isn't about the music? If it aint broke, don't fix it; just enjoy the tunes, INMHO -- thesil thesil's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9197 View this thread: