[slim] Re: Removing duplicate tracks

2005-05-30 Thread oreillymj
Okay I'm not a big fan of the software, but for tag management and the "Show Duplicates" option, iTunes 4.8 is great, and free. But I've stuck with the SQLite Db for track tag info and disabled the iTunes plugin as it was hammering my machine with constant unneeded refreshes. -- oreillymj

Re: [slim] Re: Removing duplicate tracks

2005-05-05 Thread John Hernandez
Jim wrote: > > Time to choose how important lossless is to you, if it's quite > acceptable to lose entire tracks of a CD as "the other one sounds the > same", or "ReplayGain will sort out the volume difference" then by all > means do it, but then ask yourself why you chose lossless and if you > a

[slim] Re: Removing duplicate tracks

2005-05-04 Thread Jim
Ben Wrote: > I almost hate jumping into this thread, but I guess it depends on your > reason for using FLAC (or any lossless codec). If it's to archive your > album collection, then you're right, It's either lossless or it isn't > (Why do I have a sneaking suspicion you're a cuesheet guy? ;) ). >

[slim] Re: Removing duplicate tracks

2005-05-04 Thread CavesOfTQLT
Ben Wrote: > ... So, I've manually deleted 'dupes' (whether exact or not, the same > studio recording of a song) ... > > Ben And in my original post the removing of these 'exact' copies was all I was on about, with Slimserver (or even some other 3rd party program) just putting a reference file i

[slim] Re: Removing duplicate tracks

2005-05-03 Thread Ben
Jim Wrote: > No problem, in later posts I might have come over as slightly > patronising but that was because I was getting annoyed that nobody > understood my "it's either lossless or it isn't" point of view. I > never faulted the idea of the original poster, just how he was > considering imple

[slim] Re: Removing duplicate tracks

2005-05-03 Thread Jim
CavesOfTQLT Wrote: > I see we're back onto comparing files together, rather than comparing > the actual songs. Yeah, best stop doing that. Well, I'm sorry CavesOfTQLT you were right. I've seen the light and I now have over 700 gigabytes of hard disk space, and a few thousand bucks in my pocket

Re: [slim] Re: Removing duplicate tracks

2005-05-03 Thread Ben Sandee
> I still can't see where all these references to comparing, say FLAC > files together, to see if they're the same has come in. A checksum of a > copy of a song off one album, is very unlikely to match a copy of the > _same_ song off another one, due to volume diffs, length of entry and > exit sile

[slim] Re: Removing duplicate tracks

2005-05-03 Thread CavesOfTQLT
I see we're back onto comparing files together, rather than comparing the actual songs. Whether those songs are encoded as FLAC, OGG or any other format, and whether they have slight volume differences between the CDs they're ripped from, is totally moot. Yes one track may sound better for whateve

[slim] Re: Removing duplicate tracks

2005-05-03 Thread Jim
Jim Dibb Wrote: > Thanks for clarifying, Jim. I personally ripped all my CD's at 192k > MP3 rate and am considering doing it again differently. The volume > difference between different CDs was not something I had realized. > > I felt sympathy to Caves of TQLT and as a supporter of the idea (a

Re: [slim] Re: Removing duplicate tracks

2005-05-03 Thread Jim Dibb
On 5/3/05, Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Time to choose how important lossless is to you, if it's quite > acceptable to lose entire tracks of a CD as "the other one sounds the > same", or "ReplayGain will sort out the volume difference" then by all > means do it, but then ask yourself why you

[slim] Re: Removing duplicate tracks

2005-05-03 Thread Jim
Jim Dibb Wrote: > I'd like to hear why it's a waste of disk space to use it and then > delete all the true dups (not different artists, not different > arrangements. Just different CDs?). I'd again like to hear why phrases like "dupe" and "the same" are being used so liberally with lossless audi

RE: [slim] Re: Removing duplicate tracks

2005-05-03 Thread Bennett, Gavin (LDN Int)
Title: RE: [slim] Re: Removing duplicate tracks My twopenneth worth.. I have spent a long time thinking about this for my own collection (MP3) and found there are two ways of dealing with it: 1.  Remove the dupes - as you guys have been discussing - and create links.     Under

Re: [slim] Re: Removing duplicate tracks

2005-05-03 Thread Jim Dibb
Caves, I'm with you. I can't see why there's any desire to have 3 FLAC copies of the same song off 3 different compilations either. If you chose 1 as 'best' of the 3, why would you care if you had the other two as long as the albums the came from played correctly including that song? An interfac

[slim] Re: Removing duplicate tracks

2005-05-02 Thread CavesOfTQLT
Michael, a quick reply to your post before I go. In cases like this where you've got slightly different versions of a song but they're all tagged the same, then I did mention in one of my posts above that you could listen to each 'duplicate' and decide which to keep and which to 'delete'. Anyway,

[slim] Re: Removing duplicate tracks

2005-05-02 Thread CavesOfTQLT
I give up. I just don't know where this reference to file formats has come from because I'm on about songs and their repetitions in the music library, and not whether they're in FLAC, mp3, OGG or MA formats. Anyway, just forget I brought up the subject. Edit: This was posted without me seeing

[slim] Re: Removing duplicate tracks

2005-05-02 Thread Michaelwagner
Yeah, this is a tricky idea. Perhaps your example of Beat It is correct, but I have three copies of "Billy Jean" - 2 by him - one was the original demo and one was the finished copy - and one by someone else completely. If you ask the software to consider as duplicates all copies of Billy Jean b

[slim] Re: Removing duplicate tracks

2005-05-02 Thread Jim
CavesOfTQLT Wrote: > The size of the file, length it is, recorded at 89dB or 93dB, etc. makes > no difference - it's still the same *Beat It* track. If it doesn't make a difference then why are you using FLAC? Why not re-encode all your FLAC's to 320kbps MP3's. And you could additionally do th

Re: [slim] Re: Removing duplicate tracks

2005-05-02 Thread kdf
Quoting CavesOfTQLT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > and I'm sure it would take just a > small amount of additional programming to accomplish a system like > this. everyone says this, but it is never about how much code it may or may not take. its a small abount of code ot make slimserver send a signal

[slim] Re: Removing duplicate tracks

2005-05-02 Thread CavesOfTQLT
Geez, this is getting deep and it needn't be. Take Michael Jackson's *Beat It* song. As far as I know he's only ever done one version, and that's the one that appears on his _Thriller_ album. Now if that same track appears on a compilation, say _Hits_Of_The_80s_, and I happen to have both those

[slim] Re: Removing duplicate tracks

2005-05-02 Thread Bruce Hartley
If this feature is going to go anywhere, I would like the "duplicate avoiding" links to be in the file system. That way if you are going to rebuild the database from scratch you wouldn't lose anything. I guess on a linux server, I could remove a "duplicate" file and replace it with a link (hard/

[slim] Re: Removing duplicate tracks

2005-05-02 Thread JJZolx
CavesOfTQLT Wrote: > Concerning duplicate tracks; if I've got R.E.M's Everybody Hurts* on > one of their albums, and I've also got the _same_ track on a > compilation, and _another_ on another compilation, that's three copies > taking up space, whether that space is valuable or not. Surely it wo

[slim] Re: Removing duplicate tracks

2005-05-02 Thread Jim
CavesOfTQLT Wrote: > Concerning duplicate tracks; if I've got R.E.M's Everybody Hurts* on > one of their albums, and I've also got the _same_ track on a > compilation, and _another_ on another compilation, that's three copies > taking up space, whether that space is valuable or not. I fully und

[slim] Re: Removing duplicate tracks

2005-05-02 Thread CavesOfTQLT
Concerning duplicate tracks; if I've got R.E.M's Everybody Hurts* on one of their albums, and I've also got the _same_ track on a compilation, and _another_ on another compilation, that's three copies taking up space, whether that space is valuable or not. Surely it would be easy in this day and

[slim] Re: Removing duplicate tracks

2005-05-02 Thread Jim
CavesOfTQLT Wrote: > Since starting the trial the one thing I've noticed is the amount of > duplicate tracks I've got, in some cases I've got six copies of the > same track due to them being on different albums, and they're all > taking up space that could be used for five other different tracks.

[slim] Re: Removing duplicate tracks

2005-05-02 Thread CavesOfTQLT
Yep it would require all the tags to be exactly the same, and the results from the online databases don't help, but I, and I'm sure there are many who are using the Slimserver system, well especially perfectionists, manually correct the tags after ripping them. I can't think of a single CD where I

RE: [slim] Re: Removing duplicate tracks

2005-05-02 Thread James Dunn
ng time to get the naming (and years) consistent. Have a look at how many are different in your collection. Cheers, James -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CavesOfTQLT Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 1:14 PM To: discuss@lists.slimde

[slim] Re: Removing duplicate tracks

2005-05-02 Thread DrNic
I certainly second this idea.. I have many compilation albums - especially the "chill out" variety and you can guarantee that at least 2 tracks are the same on all the albums (g!) I like your idea on how it would work, but having absolutely now idea how to program Perl then all I can do is sti

Re: [slim] Re: Removing duplicate tracks

2005-05-02 Thread Jim Dibb
Sorry I can't do anything to actually help the situation along. I'm not even on 6.x.x yet because I'm just running an SB1 and the 5.4 is working fine for me. Wish I had the time to play with this stuff more (and slightly better Perl skills.) On 5/2/05, CavesOfTQLT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >

[slim] Re: Removing duplicate tracks

2005-05-02 Thread CavesOfTQLT
Jim Dibb Wrote: > That's a great idea! Cheers Jim. I just don't see the reason to have multiple copies of the same thing on your server, unless you're happy to show off to someone that you've got 1 'tracks' when you've actually only got 8000 ;) [That's a joke BTW] Hey maybe the Slimserver t