[slim] Re: Slimserver and ISP's

2006-06-08 Thread avaloncourt
Mark Lanctot Wrote: Bell Canada will not allow you to have DSL without having a phone number attached to it - their phone service, of course. That defeats the purpose of VoIP since you can't do away with your conventional phone, or at least you don't stop paying for it. That's pretty

[slim] Re: Slimserver and ISP's

2006-06-07 Thread Dougal
Ah! Proof, I have changed my ISP and now my Slimserver/Squeezebox is playing Shoutcast streams again for more than an hour without a single stutter, fingers crossed. Stays like this and Squeezebox and me will be best of friends again. Note if changing your ISP in the UK, don’t forget to demand

[slim] Re: Slimserver and ISP's

2006-06-07 Thread avaloncourt
rudholm Wrote: That's ridiculous. VoIP doesn't use that much bandwidth (about 64kbps). And in any case, are you not buying the advertised bandwidth? *It's as if these ISPs think retail broadband is just port 80 and some email and nothing else. That's not an IP connection --that's AOL

[slim] Re: Slimserver and ISP's

2006-06-07 Thread Mark Lanctot
avaloncourt Wrote: I was just listening to a tech radio show today and the caller was Canadian. He talked about Shaw cable. They're penalizing accounts $10 if they detect VoIP usage. They won't charge $10 if the subscriber uses Shaw's VoIP service. Expect more of that. Wow that is pretty

[slim] Re: Slimserver and ISP's

2006-06-06 Thread bigjules
Dougal Wrote: But there must be something that makes slimserver, Squeezebox or Softsqueeze to be treated differently than other media players like winamp etc. Perhaps it is differences in the buffer size. -- bigjules

[slim] Re: Slimserver and ISP's

2006-06-06 Thread avaloncourt
Mark Lanctot Wrote: Hmm. Maybe things aren't as bad in Canada as I thought. Bell's been stuck at 2 Mbps for about 5 years now but at least they're not pulling stunts like that. Wouldn't put it past them to try though. I was just listening to a tech radio show today and the caller was

[slim] Re: Slimserver and ISP's

2006-06-06 Thread rudholm
avaloncourt Wrote: I was just listening to a tech radio show today and the caller was Canadian. He talked about Shaw cable. They're penalizing accounts $10 if they detect VoIP usage. They won't charge $10 if the subscriber uses Shaw's VoIP service. Expect more of that. That's ridiculous.

[slim] Re: Slimserver and ISP's

2006-06-03 Thread Dougal
radish Wrote: Why 3483? That's only used for internal communications between slimserver and the squeezebox. Yes I really should read a bit more before committing finger to keyboard. But there must be something that makes slimserver, Squeezebox or Softsqueeze to be treated differently than

[slim] Re: Slimserver and ISP's

2006-06-02 Thread Mark Lanctot
How specifically did you determine this? Not that I doubt you, I'm just wondering. I'm wondering what purpose it would serve the ISP. Did they do this to try to block P2P? If it's a conscious decision meant to block access in certain ways, sounds like corporate censorship. It could

Re: [slim] Re: Slimserver and ISP's

2006-06-02 Thread Marc Sherman
Mark Lanctot wrote: The so-called independent ISPs around here just buy bandwidth from the big two so that wouldn't help either. That's true, but it's not the whole story. At least for DSL service in Ontario, Bell (the phone company) implements their various limitations (such as bandwidth

[slim] Re: Slimserver and ISP's

2006-06-02 Thread Dougal
Hi, It was just a process of elimination really as I at first thought it may be the router so bought another, result just the same and then googling for clues before I spend an hour on the telephone to the help line, when I got through the chap on the line wasn’t able to give me a satisfactory

[slim] Re: Slimserver and ISP's

2006-06-02 Thread Mark Lanctot
Marc Sherman Wrote: Mark Lanctot wrote: The so-called independent ISPs around here just buy bandwidth from the big two so that wouldn't help either. That's true, but it's not the whole story. At least for DSL service in Ontario, Bell (the phone company) implements their various

[slim] Re: Slimserver and ISP's

2006-06-02 Thread Fifer
Dougal, do you know if Tiscali do anything similar to AlienBBC streams? -- Fifer Fifer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=639 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24388

[slim] Re: Slimserver and ISP's

2006-06-02 Thread Siduhe
I read on a blog recently that Tiscali had implemented some kind of TCP/IP technology to disuade / prevent Torrent P2P users, and it was that technology which seemed to be affecting legitimate audio streaming apps. Can't remember for the life of me where (I aggregate a lot of music, technology

[slim] Re: Slimserver and ISP's

2006-06-02 Thread Browny
If you're looking to change ISP in the UK I would strongly recommend you take a look at http://www.adslguide.org.uk/ - they have a very good area for comparing ISPs. I've heard in the past of ISPs downgrading your link if they detect filesharing traffic, but this is the first time I've heard of

[slim] Re: Slimserver and ISP's

2006-06-02 Thread Dougal
Hi, I presume that it is a port 3483 issue as all other media players on the PC don't seem to be affected and can stream all day without problems. Doug. -- Dougal Dougal's Profile:

[slim] Re: Slimserver and ISP's

2006-06-02 Thread radish
Why 3483? That's only used for internal communications between slimserver and the squeezebox. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread:

[slim] Re: Slimserver and ISP's

2006-06-02 Thread avaloncourt
This really isn't a surprise. There's been a lot of talk lately about ISPs using traffic/packet shaping. There are now commercial routers manufactured to do this automatically. The question was asked, I'm wondering what purpose it would serve the ISP. Did they do this to try to block P2P? If

[slim] Re: Slimserver and ISP's

2006-06-02 Thread Mark Lanctot
avaloncourt Wrote: It's a matter of controlling bandwidth, plain and simple. P2P and media eat up massive amounts of providers' bandwith so they are actively targeting packets being used for that purpose along with VoIP. This goes hand in hand with the new attempts by Verizon to create a