Thanks all for your comments.
TO make things even more complicated the new Touch will be released
soon. Reading elsewhere on this forum, it seemd to have better digital
out then the Duet. So if I do go the DAC route (seems likely), then I
might replace the duet with the Touch. The touch
ASenna04;508855 Wrote:
Thanks all for your comments.
So if I do go the Naim DAC route (seems likely), then I might replace
the duet with the Touch.
You value sound-quality, hence choose the alternative with the best
(for you) price/performance ratio, the Touch. That't not complicated :)
Or
bhaagensen;508887 Wrote:
You value sound-quality, hence choose the alternative with the best (for
you) price/performance ratio, the Touch. That't not complicated :) Or if
you want the very best from the two worlds, keep your TP as a digital
source if funds allow. Both makes much sense to me.
bhaagensen;508253 Wrote:
Indeed. And on the Naim-forum I've in fact been posing the challenge
that the DAC should render all reasonable quality digital sources equal.
Obviously being in the world of hi-fi and audiophiles, this is met
with... lets say some skepticism.
Anyway, as long as I
ASenna04;508451 Wrote:
bhaagensen,
You make important points here. If the DAC does indeed render all
reasonable quality digital sources equal, then why would Naim market to
sell it with the new CDX2-2 (with S/PDIF) when a CD5XS would be
sufficient?
ASenna04
Just because its there
bhaagensen;508510 Wrote:
Mind you, I also think that at this level, we are talking in subtle
differences where the end-result depends equally much on caring for
details all the way through the replay chain including room accoustics.
But you knew that :)
Funny, I find at the is level it's
I've not heard the new Naim DAC, but given that Naim deliberately
engineer all their kit to the house sound, it seems extremely likely
that it will sound distinctly different to a TP. Not better or worse -
different. Which one you like best will depend on your personal
preferences.
cliveb;508562 Wrote:
And yet, my foot is tapping.
Naim kit can make you tap your foot to you music you don't like. :-)
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I agree. As for my reference to the listening test of the TP versus the
Naim CD5x I am not implying the latter is superior by any notion of
absolute measure. I should also emphasise that I suspect the Naim DAC is
better than the TP in the context of a Naim system, in case it was not
clear.
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ModelCitizen;508529 Wrote:
Funny, I find at the is level it's very hard to quantify the audible
difference at all.
For me the hard part is getting grips on what it is that is good, bad,
or doesn't matter (that much). Also, many of the quality-measures one
can listen for appear, for all
Has anyone done any serious comparison between the Transporter and the
new Naim DAC feed from a Squeezebox Duet receiver? I know the DAC has
just been released but someone might have tried this.
I have a Transporter and it is very good. But since the rest of my
system is Naim I am seriously
No 24/96?
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pippin;508059 Wrote:
No 24/96?
According to Naim White paper, the Naim DAC uses two mono, true
multi-bit Burr-Brown PCM1704K DAC chips. The PCM1704K is a precision,
24-bit digital-to-analogue converter.
The White paper also states:
USB memory stick Naim DAC will play WAV files with sample
I think Pippin mean't connected to the Duet. It can't do 96k! If you
are using USB - well no Duet needed.
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DaveWr;508072 Wrote:
I think Pippin mean't connected to the Duet. It can't do 96k! If you
are using USB - well no Duet needed.
Dave
OK, I see. Good point.
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I'd be very interested to hear that Naim dac but would be more
interested in sticking it on a Transporter than a Receiver.
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ModelCitizen;508077 Wrote:
I'd be very interested to hear that Naim dac but would be more
interested in sticking it on a Transporter than a Receiver.
MC
Well, Naim state that they buffer the datastream and reclock it. I
think that will make the Transporter and Duet sound the same. If they
ASenna04;508100 Wrote:
Well, Naim state that they buffer the datastream and reclock it. I think
that will make the Transporter and Duet sound the same. If they do then
the only advantage Transporter has is High Resolution music files.
ASenna04
DAC manufacturers say lots of things in their
Is it called reclocking? The idea used by Naim is really simple and
elegant - the only downside being that it doesn't really warrant a fancy
naim :) Buffering in a 'time-independet' way, really describes well all
they are doing.
Anyway. Its up to everyone to trust in what is written or not,
ASenna04;508100 Wrote:
I think that will make the Transporter and Duet sound the same. If they
do then the only advantage Transporter has is High Resolution music
files.
Indeed. And on the Naim-forum I've in fact been posing the challenge
that the DAC should render all reasonable quality
Also I belive TP-user 'davebk' has one on order. So perhaps look out for
new postings from that side.
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and the mods may want to move this thread to the audiophiles section as
I suppose the DAC is if for nothing else than the cost, of limited
public interest.
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