Re: [slim] Why do we need to chose SqueezeCenter/SqueezeNetwork?

2009-09-21 Thread TheLastMan
aubuti;459509 Wrote: Some people shutdown, or at least suspend, their computers for a variety of reasons. Noise is one, energy consumption is another. Or the server is a laptop that one person takes out of the house from time to time, leaving others with only SN. I'm fine leaving my SC

Re: [slim] Why do we need to chose SqueezeCenter/SqueezeNetwork?

2009-09-21 Thread pablolie
a very intersting topic that shows how, even an entusiast early-adopter user core, requirements and virews can be quite different. i like the versatility of SC and SN. i think the confusing part is that players that are switched to SN utterly disappear from the fact of the earth as far as SC is

Re: [slim] Why do we need to chose SqueezeCenter/SqueezeNetwork?

2009-09-20 Thread bruce
If you are thinking of the system architecture then sure, it makes sense for the user to distinguish between SC and SN. Then it sounds nice to add features like automatically switching between the two sources and syncing the two Favorites lists. But if you are thinking of the *user*, the

Re: [slim] Why do we need to chose SqueezeCenter/SqueezeNetwork?

2009-09-19 Thread Nonreality
hunta;459277 Wrote: I completely agree. If Logitech are aiming Squeezeboxes in their various guises at the mass market, then things have to be a lot more intuitive. The SqueezeCenter / SqueezeNetwork point is a prime (and to be fair, probably the biggest) example. It's fine for those of us

Re: [slim] Why do we need to chose SqueezeCenter/SqueezeNetwork?

2009-09-19 Thread toby10
SC7 advantages over SN for Internet Radio and Music Services usage: + SC can use Music Information Screen + SC offers immediate access to your local music library + SC includes Favorites folders and sub-folders for station favorites, all editable and movable (SN has no folders) + SC has Direct

Re: [slim] Why do we need to chose SqueezeCenter/SqueezeNetwork?

2009-09-18 Thread hunta
I completely agree. If Logitech are aiming Squeezeboxes in their various guises at the mass market, then things have to be a lot more intuitive. The SqueezeCenter / SqueezeNetwork point is a prime (and to be fair, probably the biggest) example. It's fine for those of us who have been around a

Re: [slim] Why do we need to chose SqueezeCenter/SqueezeNetwork?

2009-09-18 Thread dave77
eq72521;459075 Wrote: This scenario wouldn't play nicely when your Internet access is down. I actually sometimes use my music server and SBs in places with no Internet access at all, so I rather like that it can be done completely offline. On the other hand, the devices could perhaps be

Re: [slim] Why do we need to chose SqueezeCenter/SqueezeNetwork?

2009-09-18 Thread bernt
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53445 -- bernt 'LastFM' (http://www.last.fm/user/ottovonkopp/) SB3, SB BOOM - SC 7.3.3 - Ubuntu Server 8.04 iPod Touch\iPeng bernt's Profile:

Re: [slim] Why do we need to chose SqueezeCenter/SqueezeNetwork?

2009-09-18 Thread BastiaanR
Nonreality;459249 Wrote: I don't understand the confusion what so ever. Really read up a bit and it all makes sense. Get over it. A lot of users are baffled by SqueezeCenter / SqueezeNetwork. You won't believe how many calls we get from users who cannot find their local music to play. And

Re: [slim] Why do we need to chose SqueezeCenter/SqueezeNetwork?

2009-09-18 Thread aubuti
dave77;459278 Wrote: Exactly, if SC is on then 'My Music Library' is shown, if Internet is on then 'Internet Radio' is shown. What about users of MP3Tunes, who have My Music Library on SN? In at least one incarnation (including the current?), Music Library shows up on both SC and SN. But what

Re: [slim] Why do we need to chose SqueezeCenter/SqueezeNetwork?

2009-09-18 Thread dave77
aubuti;459293 Wrote: What about users of MP3Tunes, who have My Music Library on SN? In at least one incarnation (including the current?), Music Library shows up on both SC and SN. But what you find below the Music Library differs on SC and SN. The 2 must be able to co-exist seamlessly

Re: [slim] Why do we need to chose SqueezeCenter/SqueezeNetwork?

2009-09-18 Thread aubuti
dave77;459299 Wrote: The 2 must be able to co-exist seamlessly without needing to switch SN to SC eg select My Music Library then depending on what's available you get different options. How does 7.4 differ? I haven't tried it yet, probably won't til it's final. That's a very broad

Re: [slim] Why do we need to chose SqueezeCenter/SqueezeNetwork?

2009-09-18 Thread TheLastMan
What I have never been able to completely establish is whether there are any services available on SqueezeNetwork that are not available on SqueezeCenter. As far as I can tell, as long as I am connected to SqueezeCenter, I have access to all the on-line music services and internet radio as well.

Re: [slim] Why do we need to chose SqueezeCenter/SqueezeNetwork?

2009-09-18 Thread dave77
aubuti;459300 Wrote: When do you need to switch between SC and SN on 7.3.3? For example, if SC was the last connection and I turn on my SB it will try to connect to SC again. If SC is not available I get an error saying no SC found or something like like. It isn't obvious/intuitive what to do

Re: [slim] Why do we need to chose SqueezeCenter/SqueezeNetwork?

2009-09-18 Thread Michael Herger
In which case, because I have a NAS running SqueezeCenter 24/7, there is no real need for me to connect to SN. Or am I missing something? no. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss

Re: [slim] Why do we need to chose SqueezeCenter/SqueezeNetwork?

2009-09-18 Thread TheLastMan
mherger;459306 Wrote: In which case, because I have a NAS running SqueezeCenter 24/7, there is no real need for me to connect to SN. Or am I missing something? no. The kind of answer I needed! Thanks. -- TheLastMan Matt SB Duet (Controller + two receivers) Synology Diskstation

Re: [slim] Why do we need to chose SqueezeCenter/SqueezeNetwork?

2009-09-18 Thread aubuti
dave77;459303 Wrote: For example, if SC was the last connection and I turn on my SB it will try to connect to SC again. If SC is not available I get an error saying no SC found or something like like. It isn't obvious/intuitive what to do next. I know I have to press back loads of times to

Re: [slim] Why do we need to chose SqueezeCenter/SqueezeNetwork?

2009-09-18 Thread Mnyb
In reality it is even more confusing with this auto switching between sc/sn I often wonder where i'm I ? I like the distinct choice between two sources . What I want to see is how WOL is going to work in this scenario how is the controller going to guess if I want to listen to SN or WOL the

Re: [slim] Why do we need to chose SqueezeCenter/SqueezeNetwork?

2009-09-18 Thread eap
aubuti;459310 Wrote: @TheLastMan: You're not missing anything. If your SC is always available, you never need to explicitly switch to SN. Why don't people just leave their PC (server) on all the time? Just leave it on - -have squeeze center running (which is also logged into

Re: [slim] Why do we need to chose SqueezeCenter/SqueezeNetwork?

2009-09-18 Thread aubuti
eap;459465 Wrote: Why don't people just leave their PC (server) on all the time? Just leave it on - -have squeeze center running (which is also logged into squeezenetwork) -- so you see everything (local music and internet radio all the time). Computers are meant to run 24/7. With FIOS

[slim] Why do we need to chose SqueezeCenter/SqueezeNetwork?

2009-09-17 Thread dave77
This has got to be the most confusing option for non techies, I mean, why do we need to chose SqueezeCenter or SqueezeNetwork as a music source? Can we not have this done seamlessly, eg when I turn on my SB player, if a SC is found then I get an extra option 'My Music Library' -- dave77

Re: [slim] Why do we need to chose SqueezeCenter/SqueezeNetwork?

2009-09-17 Thread eq72521
dave77;459017 Wrote: This has got to be the most confusing option for non techies, I mean, why do we need to chose SqueezeCenter or SqueezeNetwork as a music source? Can we not have this done seamlessly, eg when I turn on my SB player, if a SC is found then I get an extra option 'My Music

Re: [slim] Why do we need to chose SqueezeCenter/SqueezeNetwork?

2009-09-17 Thread aubuti
dave77;459017 Wrote: Can we not have this done seamlessly, eg when I turn on my SB player, if a SC is found then I get an extra option 'My Music Library' That is exactly the direction things are going with 7.4. It's not perfectly seamless, but it's a lot closer. You might want to give 7.4 a

Re: [slim] Why do we need to chose SqueezeCenter/SqueezeNetwork?

2009-09-17 Thread vw195
Can Favorite Presets be synced from SC to SN? That would make alot of sense as long as they were not local favorites. -- vw195 vw195's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32644 View this thread:

Re: [slim] Why do we need to chose SqueezeCenter/SqueezeNetwork?

2009-09-17 Thread aubuti
vw195;459080 Wrote: Can Favorite Presets be synced from SC to SN? That would make alot of sense as long as they were not local favorites. No, I don't think so. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile:

Re: [slim] Why do we need to chose SqueezeCenter/SqueezeNetwork?

2009-09-17 Thread dave77
aubuti;459079 Wrote: That is exactly the direction things are going with 7.4. It's not perfectly seamless, but it's a lot closer. You might want to give 7.4 a try -- it's in pretty good shape right now. Cheers, I'll take a look at it. -- dave77

Re: [slim] Why do we need to chose SqueezeCenter/SqueezeNetwork?

2009-09-17 Thread Nonreality
I don't understand the confusion what so ever. Really read up a bit and it all makes sense. Get over it. -- Nonreality -IF THE RULE YOU FOLLOWED BROUGHT YOU TO THIS, OF WHAT USE IS THE RULE.- HTTP://www.last.fm/user/nonreality

Re: [slim] Why do we need to chose SqueezeCenter/SqueezeNetwork?

2009-09-17 Thread Paul Webster
See the videos linked to in the thread referred to below to see how it can be confusing to new users. He was trying to do something a bit more sophisticated - but I dud feel a bit sorry for him during the first one. I started by reading up and trying Slimserver before I bought my first