Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-14 Thread MuckleEck
From the link below http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPortalWebApp/channelsPortalWebApp.portal?_nfpb=true_pageLabel=pageVAT_ShowContentid=HMCE_PROD_009989propertyType=document it can be seen that if you bring a squeezebox in to the UK and it is classed as a laptop 0% duty, MP3 player 2% duty

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-14 Thread Siduhe
MuckleEck;258522 Wrote: From the link below it can be seen that if you bring a squeezebox in to the UK and it is classed as a laptop 0% duty, MP3 player 2% duty so a) very low and b) not much if any difference Just my 2.5p Alasdair Quite right, however don't forget that you will also

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-14 Thread Bizarroterl
rougeears;258515 Wrote: Does anyone have a comparison in terms of audio quality between the SB3 and the Duet? The Duet and the SB3 use different DACs. Since the Duet still isn't available there are no comparisons yet. If you're using an outboard DAC/receiver to do the conversion then there

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-14 Thread snarlydwarf
MuckleEck;258522 Wrote: From the link below http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPortalWebApp/channelsPortalWebApp.portal?_nfpb=true_pageLabel=pageVAT_ShowContentid=HMCE_PROD_009989propertyType=document it can be seen that if you bring a squeezebox in to the UK and it is classed as a

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-14 Thread Danfan
This is probably a stupid question but how can you listen to the Internet radiostations if the computer holding the slimserver is shut down? Is there a part of the server running from the receiverbox and if so can it fetch the mediafiles from a NAS? -- Danfan

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-14 Thread snarlydwarf
The server is hosted in one of two places: your PC or the magical server in the sky at Squeezenetwork. If you're just listening to radio, you can use Squeezenetwork: it will let you create a free account and 'attach' your squeezeboxes to that account so that you can maintain your own unique

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-14 Thread Danfan
snarlydwarf;258558 Wrote: The server is hosted in one of two places: your PC or the magical server in the sky at Squeezenetwork. If you're just listening to radio, you can use Squeezenetwork: it will let you create a free account and 'attach' your squeezeboxes to that account so that you

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-14 Thread snarlydwarf
The question has come up before, and there are some NAS's that have sufficient access and power to run Slimserver, though usually with some performance limits. It goes back to having a machine with enough horsepower to run a pretty complex and large database (cross indexing albums, artists,

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-13 Thread Meatwad650
Wow - shiny. I love shiny. Pretty always works - and the controller looks very pretty. However, I have (for the most part) outgrown the phase where pretty outweighs functional. For example, if my Treo died tomorrow (it's 3 years old) I might get an iPhone. But I won't pay for the iPhone

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-13 Thread Mnyb
I'm a little old fashioned, I associate my CD's by the way they look, so a graphical remote is the icing off the cake. I actually bougth my cd's ;-) so i'm used to hold them in my hand, this will be a nice substite, now I hold all off them in my hand. I hate PDA's and won't have a lapptop on

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-13 Thread Peter
dean blackketter wrote: On Jan 12, 2008, at 10:36 AM, Peter wrote: I sincerely hope we won't be turning some virtual scroll wheel with our mouse pointers... :( The scrolling already takes advantage of your mouse wheel (if you have one), otherwise cursor keys do the scrolling...

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-13 Thread Peter
Meatwad650 wrote: So how does this apply to the Duet? Well, I won't be upgrading my setup. I probably won't get the controller because it doesn't really add any functionality. You're completely wrong there. I just spent 5 months in a small apartment where I used only one of my SB3's. I

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-13 Thread Fifer
Meatwad650;257902 Wrote: I get the feeling it's not really marketed at *us*, the SlimDevices faithful. Oh, many of us will buy it because they can think of a use for a headless SB3 (as some are looking at the receiver), but it doesn't have the same appear as an SB3, as I see it. The SD

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-13 Thread EnochLight
Fifer;257966 Wrote: I have to disagree. I'm not sure of your definition of 'faithful'...I've used a laptop, a Pocket PC with a SD wireless card and a Nokia 770. None were very satisfactory. But the Jive handset (now the controller) does almost everything I wanted, it's responsive, intuitive

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-13 Thread TonyM
Hi, My apologies if this has been asked before but I just wondered if the new SqueezeBox device will have an I2S interface that is more easily used in combination with the TDA1541A format than was the SB3? (ie without the need for additional logic to modify the left/right justification thing)

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-13 Thread tamanaco
Mnyb;257910 Wrote: I'm a little old fashioned, I associate my CD's by the way they look, so a graphical remote is the icing off the cake. I actually bougth my cd's ;-) so i'm used to hold them in my hand, this will be a nice substite, now I hold all off them in my hand. I hate PDA's and

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-13 Thread Mnyb
Exactly mr tamanaco, I can instantly regognize a record that i already have by seeing it ! long before i remember its name. I have lets se 34 CD's some boxes with Miles Davis only, if you ask's me if i have the man with the horn or miles in the sky i have to think. And i have compilations

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-13 Thread Mitch Harding
On Jan 13, 2008 4:44 AM, Meatwad650 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So how does this apply to the Duet? Well, I won't be upgrading my setup. I probably won't get the controller because it doesn't really add any functionality. I disagree. For me, having a remote not tied to line-of-sight is a big

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-13 Thread t3sn4f2
Hi. Will I be able to play subscription WMA files that I have downloaded on my harddrive from Rhapsody threw the Duets analog out? Thanks, Frank -- t3sn4f2 t3sn4f2's Profile:

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-13 Thread ShutterShock
Any suggestions on an attractive, compact amplifier/speaker combo to go with the new SB Receiver? I’m thinking for secondary listening areas such as a bedroom, kitchen or home office... Something really simple in design and visually neutral. It’d be similar in concept to some of the docking

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-13 Thread scrosland
dean blackketter;257652 Wrote: The Controller software is called SqueezeOS (formerly known as the Jive software) and also runs on Mac, Windows and Linux, though there aren't any pre-compiled versions of it available. erland;257656 Wrote: It's available, but I think you currently have

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-13 Thread Meatwad650
Peter;257920 Wrote: You're completely wrong there. I just spent 5 months in a small apartment where I used only one of my SB3's. I received my controler (beta) while I was living there and it was a lot better than using the standard remote and display. If someone wants to send me a demo

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-13 Thread twylie
ShutterShock;258121 Wrote: Any suggestions on an attractive, compact amplifier/speaker combo to go with the new SB Receiver? I’m thinking for secondary listening areas such as a bedroom, kitchen or home office... Something really simple in design and visually neutral. It’d be similar

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-13 Thread pnielsen
Mnyb;254877 Wrote: There are stupendeus price hikes if one sees the European prices :-( at http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/speakers_audio/wireless_music_systems/ Qucik calc for the swedish prices including 25% VAT: 399$*6.2031*1.25=3094 SEK The suggested logitech price 3999 SEK (I

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-13 Thread dem
twylie;258207 Wrote: The AudioEngine line are powered and mate very well with the SB3. I've just about decided to put an Audioengine + Duet system in the bedroom. It should be a great combo. -- dem Dave dem's Profile:

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-13 Thread mvalera
t3sn4f2;258087 Wrote: Hi. Will I be able to play subscription WMA files that I have downloaded on my harddrive from Rhapsody threw the Duets analog out? Thanks, Frank For rhapsody you don't play them locally, you actually play them over the internet. You have access to your entire

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-13 Thread corycwagner
I reviewed the postings on this site as well as the press release and I still can't seem to figure out the particulars of the Duet and how it would work within my existing set up. Hopefully someone can answer my questions. Here is my current setup: 2 - Slimp3's 3 - Squeeze Box Series 3 1 -

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-13 Thread EnochLight
Answers: 1. YES 2. YES on the Squeezeboxes, not sure on the Slimp3 3. The Controller must have the latest version of SqueezeCenter installed to run. -- EnochLight EnochLight's Profile:

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-13 Thread mkozlows
mvalera;258223 Wrote: For rhapsody you don't play them locally, you actually play them over the internet via SqueezeNetwork. Right, but CAN you listen to locally-downloaded Rhapsody stuff? I mean, let's say that I have twenty albums I really like downloaded from Rhapsody, as well as fifty

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-13 Thread haunyack
mkozlows;258259 Wrote: Right, but CAN you listen to locally-downloaded Rhapsody stuff? Not unless the tracks are purchased by you and reside on the same machine..DRM . -- haunyack Transporter - Box-O-Wires (audiophile grade) - Vandersteen 3A Signature .

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-13 Thread dean
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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-13 Thread Michael Herger
1. YES 2. YES on the Squeezeboxes, not sure on the Slimp3 YES. The controller only talks to SqueezeCenter, which in turn controls the players as if they were controlled using eg. the web interface. 3. The Controller must have the latest version of SqueezeCenter installed to run. --

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-12 Thread mvalera
Peter;257438 Wrote: Nothing about sound quality in that quote... Regards, Peter That was kind of his summation about the whole comparison. Let's go back to the two previous paragraphs: I know I sound like an übergeeky audiophile when I say that the Transporter set the music against a

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-12 Thread ModelCitizen
vandermerwe;257498 Wrote: I have read one beta tester comment about the new SB controller user interface being slow (like the web interface). I run sliserver on a ReadyNAS NV+, the web interface is almost useless due to its slow speed, but the old remote works very well. Does anyone now if

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-12 Thread vandermerwe
Thanks ModelCitizen, sounds good. Has anyone used the jive with a NAS based slimserver/squeezecentre? -- vandermerwe Jaboet! vandermerwe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9300 View this thread:

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-12 Thread vandermerwe
I have read one beta tester comment about the new SB controller user interface being slow (like the web interface). I run slimserver on a ReadyNAS NV+, the web interface is almost useless due to its slow speed, but the old remote works very well. Does anyone now if the new SB controller will be

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-12 Thread ModelCitizen
vandermerwe;257505 Wrote: Thanks ModelCitizen, sounds good. Has anyone used the jive with a NAS based slimserver/squeezecentre? It's certain that if your current remote works well the new jive remote will work at least as well (and in all likelihood much better). MC -- ModelCitizen It is

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-12 Thread aubuti
vandermerwe;257505 Wrote: Thanks ModelCitizen, sounds good. Has anyone used the jive with a NAS based slimserver/squeezecentre? I've been using the Jive with a Buffalo LinkStation HG (128MB RAM, 266MHz PowerPC processor) on a library of ~4,000 flac tracks since mid-October. The Jive is much

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-12 Thread tamanaco
Just had to ask... Is there... or will there... be a Controller software functional Simulator? -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread:

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-12 Thread funkstar
tamanaco;257640 Wrote: Just had to ask... Is there... or will there... be a Controller software functional Simulator? There certainally will be. Jive will take over from SoftSqueeze as the main PC and Mac based software player. It may be available just now, I really am not sure. Have a look

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-12 Thread dean blackketter
On Jan 12, 2008, at 9:21 AM, tamanaco wrote: Just had to ask... Is there... or will there... be a Controller software functional Simulator? Yes. The Controller software is called SqueezeOS (formerly known as the Jive software) and also runs on Mac, Windows and Linux, though there aren't

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-12 Thread erland
tamanaco;257640 Wrote: Just had to ask... Is there... or will there... be a Controller software functional Simulator? It's available, but I think you currently have to compile it yourself. You will find the instructions in the README files which is delivered with the Jive source: Linux:

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-12 Thread dminches
Sean, it is great that you frequent the forums. It shows your dedication to developing products that people enjoy. Continuing the Transporter / SB3 comparison, would inserting a jitter reduction unit (Audio Alchemy DTI for example) between my SB3 and DAC bring the sound of the SB3 closer to the

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-12 Thread Peter
funkstar wrote: tamanaco;257640 Wrote: Just had to ask... Is there... or will there... be a Controller software functional Simulator? There certainally will be. Jive will take over from SoftSqueeze as the main PC and Mac based software player. It may be available just now, I

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-12 Thread tamanaco
Peter;257680 Wrote: I sincerely hope we won't be turning some virtual scroll wheel with our mouse pointers... :( Regards, Peter I do hope that it has a virtual wheel. Just like SoftSqueeze it could be very useful marketing tool for the Controller You know, try-before-you-buy kind of

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-12 Thread seanadams
dminches;257660 Wrote: Continuing the Transporter / SB3 comparison, would inserting a jitter reduction unit (Audio Alchemy DTI for example) between my SB3 and DAC bring the sound of the SB3 closer to the Transporter (assuming the use of an external DAC)? It seems like jitter is the major

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-12 Thread dean blackketter
On Jan 12, 2008, at 10:36 AM, Peter wrote: I sincerely hope we won't be turning some virtual scroll wheel with our mouse pointers... :( The scrolling already takes advantage of your mouse wheel (if you have one), otherwise cursor keys do the scrolling...

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-12 Thread pichonCalavera
Yeah, I've compiled it for Linux and the scroll wheel can be simulated by the scroll wheel from you mouse, or in my case, with the touchpad scroll wheel from my notepad. -- pichonCalavera *rip* (eac) *convert* (flac) *tag* (musicbrainz) *normalize* (replaygain/foobar2000) *albumart*

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-12 Thread BetterDAC
seanadams;257436 Wrote: I am not offended in the way you think. People complain about my products here all the time, and receiving that kind of feedback is largely the purpose of this forum. Even the foul tone of your posts doesn't bother me. What I am objecting to is the misinformation.

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-12 Thread Listener
BetterDAC;257710 Wrote: Foul tone? There you go again. There's not a single foul word in any of my posts. Have you even read them all? Calling anything I wrote foul is an obnoxious insult, and should be beneath the dignity of a senior executive of a publicly traded company. I certainly hope

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-12 Thread hirsp1
mvalera;254720 Wrote: All Squeezboxes can be synchronized by the Controller, or SlimServer /SqueezeCenter for that matter, to play the same song. Or they can all play different songs at the same time. Bridging works the same as on the SqueezeBox. You connect your SqueezeBox wirelessly to

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-12 Thread Gplouffe
mvalera;254681 Wrote: I'm happy to announce that we have launched the all new Squeezebox™ Duet! Squeezebox™ Duet lets you listen to the music you love in any room in your home. Access millions of songs — even when your computer is off. The multi-room controller with 2.4-inch color display

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-11 Thread Peter
noduplicates wrote: Peter, I agree with Erland about the problems of cannabalizing sales of the current device by releasing a new one and that SlimDevices has already made a commitment to the current device. However, history and companies such as Apple have shown that building the right

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-11 Thread inv
Congrats on a great product! I own a SB3 and i think a duet would complement it well in addition to providing music to one more room in my house! Any words on the release date yet? I live in Norway, when can i expect it to reach the stores? Are we talking months or weeks? -- inv

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-11 Thread aubuti
noduplicates;257117 Wrote: Peter, I agree with Erland about the problems of cannabalizing sales of the current device by releasing a new one and that SlimDevices has already made a commitment to the current device. However, history and companies such as Apple have shown that building the

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-11 Thread miw
The Duet is an interesting next step in the audio world. It brings convenient user interface and allows the audio equipment to be hidden from view (a big plus for me). As a potential first time buyer, the SBR is spot on. The SBC or the duet combo is less appealing, as i'm not yet convinced that

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-11 Thread Tradewind25
My, my, you boys do get excited! My point was merely that I can't expand my system with a new receiver since my obsolete SB3 remote control could not be used to configure it. I look forward to the change in this situation; as forecast by various contributors to this thread. Don't get wrong -

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-11 Thread thing-fish
thing-fish;257298 Wrote: But an iPod touch that could stream from SqueezeCenter, boy that'd be one hot ticket. Sorry to reply to myself, but you know what? Has anyone looked at the Sansa Connect? It is not touch screen, but it is a PMP that has Wifi *and* internet radio. I wonder if it can

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-11 Thread dminches
Skunk;256596 Wrote: Real audiophiles should just get a Transporter anyway. Is this statement still true, in your eyes, if one's use of the SB3/Duet/Transporter ends with the digital out? -- dminches SB3 CI Audio VDA-2 Aragon Soundstage Aragon 8008X3 Vandersteen 3A Sigs

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-11 Thread thing-fish
erland;257110 Wrote: Personally I'm still dreaming of a SqueezeBox Portable that will be good enough to replace my iPod Touch as a portable device. Serious question (because I don't have an iPod Touch)...am I right in thinking that the iPod can't do streams right now? I wonder when they

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-11 Thread BetterDAC
dminches;257302 Wrote: Is this statement still true, in your eyes, if one's use of the SB3/Duet/Transporter ends with the digital out? The Transporter is over priced, IMHO. A SBR or SB3 with a good external DAC like a Benchmark DAC1 for example has better technical specifications and thus

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-11 Thread Peter
noduplicates wrote: Peter;257149 Wrote: noduplicates wrote: It's pretty hard to distinguish between song titles that way. --- Peter, I'm showing my age (54) but do you need reading glasses? I hate Not yet, but I'm getting closer.

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-11 Thread mvalera
inv;257167 Wrote: Congrats on a great product! I own a SB3 and i think a duet would complement it well in addition to providing music to one more room in my house! Any words on the release date yet? I live in Norway, when can i expect it to reach the stores? Are we talking months or

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-11 Thread Skunk
dminches;257302 Wrote: Is this statement still true, in your eyes, if one's use of the SB3/Duet/Transporter ends with the digital out? Depends on your definition of real audiophile, and possibly what clocking features their DAC has. The topic has been discussed a lot in the audiophile forum,

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-11 Thread Enoch Soames
I'm generally in sympathy with you - if not actual agreement. I'm in my mid-50s and have become increasingly presbyopic over the years. But I can't see this happening for a couple of reasons: For one thing, it would be lousy business practice. For another, there's a lot more to introducing a

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-11 Thread mvalera
BetterDAC;257327 Wrote: The Transporter is over priced, IMHO. A SBR or SB3 with a good external DAC like a Benchmark DAC1 for example has better technical specifications and thus will deliver better quality sound for several $hundred less than a Transporter. Stereophile doesn't agree with

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-11 Thread Michael Herger
I'm reminded for some reason of an unrelated argument in which someone tried to persuade me that a company - with 50+% market share - overpriced their products! Doh This can easily be true. Not from the company's point of view, of course. Consider that utterly broken word processor

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-11 Thread ceejay
BetterDAC;257327 Wrote: The Transporter is over priced, IMHO. Its only overpriced if it doesn't sell. Judging by the number of threads started by people with Transporters, they must have sold a few at least! I'm reminded for some reason of an unrelated argument in which someone tried to

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-11 Thread Mitch Harding
Well, in the case of buying the Transporter versus the SB3 + DAC or competing products such as Sonos, there is definitely enough competition that one hopes no one is buying a Transporter for that reason. On Jan 11, 2008 5:00 PM, Michael Herger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm reminded for some

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-11 Thread jdh500
From my testing the Musical Fidelity X-DACV3 is an inferior DAC compared to the Benchmark DAC1, so not a fair comparison drawn. That being said I'm still considering buying a transporter to replace the SB3 for the added functionallity and display. Considering the value of the transporter, maybe

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-11 Thread BetterDAC
mvalera;257336 Wrote: Stereophile doesn't agree with you. They tested a Transporter and compared it to the editor's own setup of a SB3 plus a Musical Fidelity's X-DACV3. The editor preferred the Transporter over his personal setup: Yes, the Transporter is worth the upgrade, even from an

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-11 Thread seanadams
BetterDAC;257392 Wrote: [...]it’s harder to make the leap that a Trasporter would sound better than a system with better technical specs that was designed by an audiophile company. Such as which one? The DAC1 is an excellent DAC but it does NOT beat Transporter on specs. Also, it uses

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-11 Thread BetterDAC
seanadams;257401 Wrote: Such as which one? The DAC1 is an excellent DAC but it does NOT beat Transporter on specs. Also, it uses ASRC, which as expected makes for OK measurements but is not universally believed to be without disadvantages in subjective sound quality. Also, note that

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-11 Thread seanadams
BetterDAC;257413 Wrote: I haven't written that many posts,[...] ... which is in large part why I am this thoroughly objecting to you. You've come in here guns blazing, clearly having spent no time researching the _only_ topic you've thus far raised: better dac. It's silly. Everybody would

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-11 Thread BetterDAC
seanadams;257423 Wrote: ... which is in large part why I am so thoroughly objecting to you. You've come in here guns blazing, clearly having spent no time researching the _only_ topic you've thus far raised: better dac. It's silly. Everybody would like to have a better DAC, but first

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-11 Thread Pale Blue Ego
Anyway, congrats to the SD team for this new addition to the hardware family. This platform is a logical next step to advancing the interaction and control of SlimServer and ultimately, our music collections. -- Pale Blue Ego

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-11 Thread seanadams
BetterDAC;257428 Wrote: But it seems my criticism has struck a bit of a nerve, and it’s not going to be difficult for me to prove. I am not offended in the way you think. People complain about my products here all the time, and receiving that kind of feedback is largely the purpose of this

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-11 Thread Peter
mvalera wrote: BetterDAC;257327 Wrote: The Transporter is over priced, IMHO. A SBR or SB3 with a good external DAC like a Benchmark DAC1 for example has better technical specifications and thus will deliver better quality sound for several $hundred less than a Transporter.

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-11 Thread Peter
ceejay wrote: BetterDAC;257327 Wrote: The Transporter is over priced, IMHO. Its only overpriced if it doesn't sell. Judging by the number of threads started by people with Transporters, they must have sold a few at least! There are alternative explanations. Perhaps they

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-10 Thread aweitzner
IRJ;256631 Wrote: It's my understanding that a WiFi router is only as fast as the units it speaks to. i.e. If you have a N WiFi router and you match it with one say SBC or SBR maxing at G speeds then the whole system defaults to max G speeds. I ask because the SBC appears to be on 100% of

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-10 Thread tamanaco
aweitzner;256767 Wrote: Not exactly, the WiFi Access Point communicates as fast as it can with each client. You CAN mix 802.11n and 802.11g clients on the same network. The drawback is that 11g clients need more airtime to transmit the same amount of data. The fastest 11g clients only pass

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-10 Thread funkstar
BetterDAC;256671 Wrote: I shouldn't say it's worse. In fact the specs from the Wolfson website show that it has some good features, but it seems that Slim doesn't take full advantage of them. At least not yet. But given the criticism that the SB3 didn't have 24x96k capability, I think a lot

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-10 Thread BetterDAC
Ben Sandee;256673 Wrote: On Jan 9, 2008 10:50 PM, BetterDAC BetterDAC.32yepn1199940901 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com wrote: I shouldn't say it's worse. In fact the specs from the Wolfson website show that it has some good features, but it seems that Slim doesn't take

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-10 Thread aweitzner
tamanaco;256773 Wrote: I think the issue is when multiple a,g,n adapters are connected continously and simultaneously to the same AP. The AP has to use the lowest common denominator to maintain communications with all the adapters. Tamanaco A WiFi 802.11n Certified AP requires backward

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-10 Thread tamanaco
aweitzner;256800 Wrote: Tamanaco A WiFi 802.11n Certified AP requires backward compatible that allows it to talk 11g to an 11g client while talking 11n to an 11n client on the same active network. This is referred to as Mixed Mode by the WiFi Alliance. I have this exact configuration up

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-10 Thread rickwookie
I'm quite excited about the new controller, which is odd considering how many times I've argued the benefit of the SB3/IR-Remote combo over the Sonos graphical remote/dumb player configuration. I suppose most of my argument was based on the fact that for the price of the Sonos remote alone, I

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-10 Thread rickwookie
I'm just thinking about the possibilities for the new receiver and this issue of needing the controller to set it up came to mind. At first it seemed obvious; how could you connect to a wireless network without a screen/remote for settings, or even a wired network relying on DHCP if there were a

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-10 Thread BetterDAC
Ben Sandee;256857 Wrote: On Jan 10, 2008 9:11 AM, BetterDAC BetterDAC.32z7ez1199978101 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com wrote: Ben Sandee;256673 Wrote: Maybe some were, but far more were asking for something cheaper. You were hoping for cheaper than $150 for the

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-10 Thread SuperQ
BetterDAC;256806 Wrote: You were hoping for cheaper than $150 for the Receiver? I can't think of a comparable competitor that is even close to such a low price point? The Receiver is very competively priced. I think the Controller is over-priced, but not the Receiver. Well, if you

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-10 Thread IRJ
aweitzner;256800 Wrote: Tamanaco A WiFi 802.11n Certified AP requires backward compatible that allows it to talk 11g to an 11g client while talking 11n to an 11n client on the same active network. This is referred to as Mixed Mode by the WiFi Alliance. I have this exact configuration up

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-10 Thread Mark Lanctot
IRJ;256889 Wrote: Lastly the WiFi version not being upgraded to N standard seems a missed opportunity, as in many households with multiple receivers etc. it can and will have an impact on the whole network's performance. Err, can they not at least wait until 802.11n is officially released?

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-10 Thread Robin Bowes
IRJ wrote: I was asking the question to find out if SD had perhaps made an error/missed an opportunity in not moving to an N standard WiFi receiver/contoller chipsets in their new units. SD obviously want us to innstall muliple units, however, reading the responses this is most likely

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-10 Thread erland
rickwookie;256887 Wrote: If this is the case then why can't a laptop or other device do the same? It can, it's just a matter of writing the necessary software to transfer the settings. Logitech has already said that this is in the plan if we want it. If they decide to not write the software

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-10 Thread Fifer
BetterDAC;256878 Wrote: It is cheaper than the SB3! I think that was his point. More people were asking for a cheaper option than a 'better' option and that's what SD delivered. -- Fifer Fifer's Profile:

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-10 Thread IRJ
Robin Bowes;256914 Wrote: IRJ wrote: I was asking the question to find out if SD had perhaps made an error/missed an opportunity in not moving to an N standard WiFi receiver/contoller chipsets in their new units. SD obviously want us to innstall muliple units, however, reading

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-10 Thread jordi . c
This Squeezebox controller is high priced for his function. Nevertheless It's a great tool to control your music from your bed. As I cannot read the VFD display on the SB3 from that distance. For $299 you have almost an Asus EEE PC with a lot more functionality and you can browse your collection

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-10 Thread Ben Sandee
On Jan 10, 2008 11:32 AM, BetterDAC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ben Sandee;256673 Wrote: Maybe some were, but far more were asking for something cheaper. You were hoping for cheaper than $150 for the Receiver? I can't think of a comparable competitor that is even close to

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-10 Thread tamanaco
Mark Lanctot;256907 Wrote: Err, can they not at least wait until 802.11n is officially released? It's important to remember it's still a draft at this point, despite every wireless vendor acting like it's a fait-accompli. Also it is highly unlikely that there are draft-802.11n chipsets

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-10 Thread Skunk
jordi.c;256942 Wrote: For $299 you have almost an Asus EEE PC with a lot more functionality and you can browse your collection in the browser which goes very fast with a keyboard, maybe a lot smoother than a controller. Still, being a laptop it doesn't lend itself to passive use as well as

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-10 Thread dean blackketter
On Jan 10, 2008, at 12:55 PM, tamanaco wrote: What Mark says is right on the mark... I also just found out that the Controller might have a on/off switch. (I did not see it in any of the pictures... Where is it?) So, if this is the case, network degradation can be avoided by flipping the

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