Re: [slim] Re: MusicMagic, SlimServer 6.01 and SoftSqueeze 2.0b3

2005-04-30 Thread kdf
On 30-Apr-05, at 7:14 PM, Andy Bunn wrote: Excellent. Thanks for the translation. And I forgot to post this, but you probably already know, the recan attempts are continuous. I think the MMM plugin reports a change every two seconds or so. -A the checker runs every 60 seconds. You won't notice

RE: [slim] Re: MusicMagic, SlimServer 6.01 and SoftSqueeze 2.0b3

2005-04-30 Thread Andy Bunn
Excellent. Thanks for the translation. And I forgot to post this, but you probably already know, the recan attempts are continuous. I think the MMM plugin reports a change every two seconds or so. -A ~~ 2005-04-30 21:45:04.7145 MusicMagic: music library has changed! Use

RE: [slim] Re: MusicMagic, SlimServer 6.01 and SoftSqueeze 2.0b3

2005-04-30 Thread kdf
Quoting Andy Bunn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Curious. thanks. the uninitialized value warnings are just warnings and harmless. They are coming up because the debug asks for the last scan time. since you havent' scanned since startup, its indefined. with 6.1 nightlies, a zero in the reload interval

RE: [slim] Re: MusicMagic, SlimServer 6.01 and SoftSqueeze 2.0b3

2005-04-30 Thread Andy Bunn
kdf wrote: > make sure you have the latest of the nightly builds for 6.1 (NOT 6.0.3), April 28 or newer. I installed the latest nightly (4/30) and see the new info being dumped to the log file. See below. It's complaining abput a "uninitialized value in concatenation" but seems to run. I can use M

Re: [slim] Re: MusicMagic, SlimServer 6.01 and SoftSqueeze 2.0b3

2005-04-30 Thread kdf
Quoting hunta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > kdf Wrote: > > i have also set my reload interval for musicmagic to 0 and this avoids > > the scan even on startup, so try that as well since that may at least > > lessen the problem in the short term. > > That doesn't seem to be the case when I'm starting SS

Re: [slim] Re: MusicMagic, SlimServer 6.01 and SoftSqueeze 2.0b3

2005-04-29 Thread kdf
On 29-Apr-05, at 7:26 PM, Andy Bunn wrote: So, when MMM is initialized, slim feels compelled to scan (orwhatever the right word is). that is the current theory. try tomorrow's build for a bit more debug around that area. it wont change anything, but it will at least give recorded proof of th

RE: [slim] Re: MusicMagic, SlimServer 6.01 and SoftSqueeze 2.0b3

2005-04-29 Thread Andy Bunn
Alright. I let slim rescan (it took less than an hour). I could then kill slim and restart it without any problem. When I restarted MMM and ran slim it scanned again: Use of uninitialized value in exists at /PerlApp/Slim/Buttons/Home.pm line 159. Use of uninitialized value in exists at /PerlApp/Sl

Re: [slim] Re: MusicMagic, SlimServer 6.01 and SoftSqueeze 2.0b3

2005-04-29 Thread kdf
On 29-Apr-05, at 5:51 PM, Andy Bunn wrote: Thanks kdf. You rock. -Andy thanks, but I haven't actually solved anything yet. i've added a couple new debug lines just now. if you use svn, please update. if you use the windows exe, please download and install the 6.1 nightly build for Apr 30 and

RE: [slim] Re: MusicMagic, SlimServer 6.01 and SoftSqueeze 2.0b3

2005-04-29 Thread Andy Bunn
Hey all: I have the same symptom (snipprt of log file pasted below). MMM has finished its analysis (0/0/0) and the scan starts about a minute after slim.exe is run. My reload interval is set to 3600. I'm using SS 6.0.2 and MMM 1.1.5 One thing I see here is that slim is reading 9660 songs in the MM

Re: [slim] Re: MusicMagic, SlimServer 6.01 and SoftSqueeze 2.0b3

2005-04-29 Thread kdf
On 29-Apr-05, at 5:19 PM, hunta wrote: So, even if there is a second underlying issue, one way and another it looks like it is better to run as a service. Does this have to run from a DOS shell in XP? I can't see it in my list of services (My Computer > Manage > Services) slim.exe runs from comman

Re: [slim] Re: MusicMagic, SlimServer 6.01 and SoftSqueeze 2.0b3

2005-04-29 Thread kdf
Quoting hunta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Could be on to something here. > actually, I've noticed that the cacheid seems to be different every time musicmagic is restarted, which will trigger the scan. > I'd now like to revert to starting the service using SlimServer.exe to > check whether the probl

Re: [slim] Re: MusicMagic, SlimServer 6.01 and SoftSqueeze 2.0b3

2005-04-29 Thread kdf
Quoting hunta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > kdf Wrote: > > I'll add a bit more in there hopefully for tomorrow's nightly build, to > > track the scan trigger and we'll have to see the logs again. > > That sounds good. Unfortunately I'll be away for a week, but it looks > like abunn is experiencing the

Re: [slim] Re: MusicMagic, SlimServer 6.01 and SoftSqueeze 2.0b3

2005-04-29 Thread kdf
Quoting hunta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > 2005-04-29 21:09:53.9062 MusicMagic: music library has changed! > 2005-04-29 21:09:53.9064 MusicMagic: using musicmagic: Predixis > MusicMagic Mixer. Version 1.1.4 > > 2005-04-29 21:09:53.9064 MusicMagic: start export > 2005-04-29 21:09:53.9068 MusicMagic: expo

Re: [slim] Re: MusicMagic, SlimServer 6.01 and SoftSqueeze 2.0b3

2005-04-29 Thread kdf
Quoting hunta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > 2005-04-29 21:09:53.9062 MusicMagic: music library has changed! > 2005-04-29 21:09:53.9064 MusicMagic: using musicmagic: Predixis > MusicMagic Mixer. Version 1.1.4 > > 2005-04-29 21:09:53.9064 MusicMagic: start export > 2005-04-29 21:09:53.9068 MusicMagic: expo

Re: [slim] Re: MusicMagic, SlimServer 6.01 and SoftSqueeze 2.0b3

2005-04-29 Thread kdf
Quoting hunta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > kdf, I apologise if my requests for help have sounded like whingeing - I > never intended that. Like many others on this forum I'm sure, I work in > development myself and know very well the 'It doesn't work' user > feedback. That said, I've not been using SS

RE: [slim] Re: MusicMagic, SlimServer 6.01 and SoftSqueeze 2.0b3

2005-04-29 Thread Andy Bunn
> Version 1.1.5 of MusicMagic Mixer is out now. I have no idea if it > will help you, but I figure it is worth a try. I'm using 1.1.5 with the same problem. I'll, too, stop whingeing, and post some logs to the bug reports. -Andy ___ Discuss mailing li

Re: [slim] Re: MusicMagic, SlimServer 6.01 and SoftSqueeze 2.0b3

2005-04-29 Thread Steven Spies
Version 1.1.5 of MusicMagic Mixer is out now. I have no idea if it will help you, but I figure it is worth a try. > 2005-04-29 21:09:53.9064 MusicMagic: using musicmagic: Predixis > MusicMagic Mixer. Version 1.1.4 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.s

Re: [slim] Re: MusicMagic, SlimServer 6.01 and SoftSqueeze 2.0b3

2005-04-29 Thread kdf
Quoting hunta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > During the 60 sec interval between starting SS and everything grinding > to a halt I managed to turn on d_musicmagic and got this output (I've > trimmed the path & file names). Not sure whether this means SS or MMM > is re-evaluating the songs, but something

Re: [slim] Re: MusicMagic, SlimServer 6.01 and SoftSqueeze 2.0b3

2005-04-29 Thread kdf
Quoting hunta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Analysis was fully complete before SS came on the scene. > > I spoke too soon. I'm very disappointed to find that, having closed and > restarted MMM and SS CPU has become an issue again. I'm starting to run > out of ideas (other than give up on MMM). > please

RE: [slim] Re: MusicMagic, SlimServer 6.01 and SoftSqueeze 2.0b3

2005-04-29 Thread Andy Bunn
> the scenario I'm experiencing, I can start MMM & SS, everything's fine > for maybe 60 secs, then SS maxes out on the CPU. My reload interval is > set to 3600 seconds. To verify this I set the reload interval to 0 > (don't reload), as suggested in the bug detail, and it had no effect. Ditto. I ad

RE: [slim] Re: MusicMagic, SlimServer 6.01 and SoftSqueeze 2.0b3

2005-04-29 Thread Andy Bunn
> So, all in all it seems to work. Just takes a healthy dose of > patience... I guess the reason why SS takes so long to read a fully > analyzed and verified MMM library will remain a mystery for now. There's a bug report on this and hopfully it will be fixed soon http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show

RE: [slim] Re: MusicMagic, SlimServer 6.01 and SoftSqueeze 2.0b3

2005-04-29 Thread Howard Darwen
i think it's the analysis that takes the time. and having slim up while your analysing doesn't seem a good idea. once it's all done though, it is really kool. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of hunta Sent: 29 April 2005 19:02 To: discuss@lists.sl

Re: [slim] Re: MusicMagic, SlimServer 6.01 and SoftSqueeze 2.0b3

2005-04-29 Thread Ert
Hiya. On Apr 29, 2005, at 5:05 AM, hunta wrote: After more experimentation ('testing' would be too grand a word!) last night, I found that there was some progress, it's just extremely slow. [...] Does this fit with other people's experience when first introducing MMM and SS to each other? People

RE: [slim] Re: MusicMagic, SlimServer 6.01 and SoftSqueeze 2.0b3

2005-04-29 Thread Howard Darwen
t: RE: [slim] Re: MusicMagic, SlimServer 6.01 and SoftSqueeze 2.0b3 from what i've worked out, it MMM does something like this ... - first, MMM generates a fingerprint for each song, taking about 10 secs per song - if MMM can find that song from the fingerprint in the online database then

RE: [slim] Re: MusicMagic, SlimServer 6.01 and SoftSqueeze 2.0b3

2005-04-29 Thread Howard Darwen
from what i've worked out, it MMM does something like this ... - first, MMM generates a fingerprint for each song, taking about 10 secs per song - if MMM can find that song from the fingerprint in the online database then it can get the full analysis data from there (cos someone else has already d

RE: [slim] Re: MusicMagic, SlimServer 6.01 and SoftSqueeze 2.0b3

2005-04-28 Thread Andy Bunn
Right, but when I have this situation and I shutdown both slim and musicmagic and restart musicmagic only, then musicmagic hogs the cpu. this is leading me to believe that musicmagic is the culprit. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of hunta

RE: [slim] Re: MusicMagic, SlimServer 6.01 and SoftSqueeze 2.0b3

2005-04-28 Thread Andy Bunn
> guess I could try MoodLogic, I did and wasn't thrilled with it. MMM is a better music mixer. Do you have some fraction of unanalyzable tracks? I do. That is, I have no songs which have not yet been analyzed but I do have songs which are unanalyzable. Can that be part of it? whicken (the kdf of

Re: [slim] Re: MusicMagic, SlimServer 6.01 and SoftSqueeze 2.0b3

2005-04-28 Thread Wendell Hicken
On 4/28/05, relen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All this presumably means that MusicMagic would have to do complete > analysis on a significant proportion of my collection. What's the > general view on this product, especially as one evidently has to > subscribe to get Slimserver integration? Is it

Re: [slim] Re: MusicMagic, SlimServer 6.01 and SoftSqueeze 2.0b3

2005-04-28 Thread Wendell Hicken
On 4/28/05, Jim Forsythe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been having the same problem. If I turn MMM on, and integrate it > with slimserver, within a single song play, slimserver "locks up". The > web interface won't respond, and after the buffer empties, it stops > playing. This is on Linux (

Re: [slim] Re: MusicMagic, SlimServer 6.01 and SoftSqueeze 2.0b3

2005-04-28 Thread Wendell Hicken
On 4/28/05, relen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I did a series of test lookups on their web site search front-end and it > is obviously only checking a couple of locations carrying mainstream > current albums. Is this the same on-line database as their product > uses, or is the latter something more

RE: [slim] Re: MusicMagic, SlimServer 6.01 and SoftSqueeze 2.0b3

2005-04-28 Thread Jim Forsythe
I've been having the same problem. If I turn MMM on, and integrate it with slimserver, within a single song play, slimserver "locks up". The web interface won't respond, and after the buffer empties, it stops playing. This is on Linux (red hat 9). I don't see an option for watch folders anywh

RE: [slim] Re: MusicMagic, SlimServer 6.01 and SoftSqueeze 2.0b3

2005-04-28 Thread Andy Bunn
> What's the > general view on this product, especially as one evidently has to > subscribe to get Slimserver integration? Is it worth the effort? It's great (when it works I guess - given the nature of this thread). I have a 10k song library with seriously eclectic spread (I suppose that in 10k t

Re: [slim] Re: MusicMagic, SlimServer 6.01 and SoftSqueeze 2.0b3

2005-04-27 Thread kdf
On 27-Apr-05, at 9:25 PM, Wendell Hicken wrote: On 4/27/05, abunn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If I just start music magic in the absence of slim, the cpu pegs and the MusicMagicMixer.exe is the culprit. But, no analysis is being done. At least, it claims not (there are a few tracks that mm lists as

Re: [slim] Re: MusicMagic, SlimServer 6.01 and SoftSqueeze 2.0b3

2005-04-27 Thread Wendell Hicken
On 4/27/05, abunn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If I just start music magic in the absence of slim, > the cpu pegs and the MusicMagicMixer.exe is the culprit. But, no > analysis is being done. At least, it claims not (there are a few tracks > that mm lists as unanalyzable - too short). It's a drag;

Re: [slim] Re: MusicMagic, SlimServer 6.01 and SoftSqueeze 2.0b3

2005-04-27 Thread Charles Stanton
I also use MusicMagic intergrated with SlimServer and don't see this behaviour once all the music is analyzed by MM and SlimServer has fully scanned the library(prior to those two operations completing the entire computer is maxed out, and I typically stop the slimserver service, let MM do its thin

RE: [slim] Re: MusicMagic, SlimServer 6.01 and SoftSqueeze 2.0b3

2005-04-27 Thread Andy Bunn
> Yes - 100% completed - status bar is reading 0 / 0 / 0 so all tracks > have been analysed / added etc. > > Whether I start slim.exe manually or via the service it starts ok then > within about 5-10 minutes it will ramp up to 100% CPU and stay there > for 20-30 minutes. It will then come back dow

RE: [slim] Re: MusicMagic, SlimServer 6.01 and SoftSqueeze 2.0b3

2005-04-27 Thread Chris Brooking
Sorry, I don't tend to keep a stopwatch on it, but it does seem to take quite a while (30 mins?), even for small additions (10-20 tracks) to my library. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of hunta Sent: 27 April 2005 14:05 To: discuss@lists.slimd

RE: [slim] Re: MusicMagic, SlimServer 6.01 and SoftSqueeze 2.0b3

2005-04-27 Thread Chris Brooking
I see this too, any time anything new gets added to the MM library. The CPU usage does return to normal after a while, though. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of hunta Sent: 27 April 2005 00:26 To: discuss@lists.slimdevices.com Subject: [slim

Re: [slim] Re: MusicMagic, SlimServer 6.01 and SoftSqueeze 2.0b3

2005-04-26 Thread kdf
> How do I do a wipe cache? in the web browser, server settings->performance click the Wipe Cache button. With 6.0.1, there have been some issues using wipe cache, however. If you end up with strange results in the pagebar (the letters at the top fo the browse lists), a server restart should cle