Re: [discuss] Re: Professional Office...

2005-04-19 Thread Rolf Meyer
Hi. Am Dienstag, 19. April 2005 04:55 schrieb Matt Needles: Volker Jung wrote: Hello! Why does noone give OpenOffice a professional look and feel? [...] Best regards Volker Jung Well, Volker, which version are you using? If you have not yet seen our beta of 2.0, you ought to try

[discuss] HR skilltest software

2005-04-19 Thread Alexandro Colorado
Hi, I remember I used to go to this HR (human resources) hiring companies and they test your computer skills using this MSO emulator where they measure your words per second, MS Word knowledge etc. Does anyone know any company that makes this emulators? Is there a way we could do this for OOo?

Re: [discuss] Acute problems in OpenOffice.org development?

2005-04-19 Thread Nicu Buculei
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, On a Dutch IT news website I read an article titled Development of OpenOffice.org increasingly difficult. http://www.webwereld.nl/nieuws/21297.phtml here is an english article on the same theme: http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;1530132226;fp;16;fpid;0

Re: [discuss] Acute problems in OpenOffice.org development?

2005-04-19 Thread Alexandro Colorado
They are more open to development as it has the Gnome mentality so is easier to get the CVS, easier to submit patches and easier for the patches to get into the development tree. Then again it's only focus is Linux -- nothing wrong on that. :) Ximian OOo: http://ooo.ximian.com/ Tarballs:

Re: [discuss] Has sun sacked half its developers?

2005-04-19 Thread Bjoern Milcke
Andrew Brown wrote: In the Australian Computerworld article about there being not enough developers of OOo/Star Office, Ken Foskey is quoted as saying there are now 50 people working on the program for Sun in Germany. Erwin Tenhumberg replies that he wont talk about numbers, but that the ratio

Re: [discuss] Acute problems in OpenOffice.org development?

2005-04-19 Thread Stefan Taxhet
Hi Simon, All, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, On a Dutch IT news website I read an article titled Development of OpenOffice.org increasingly difficult. http://www.webwereld.nl/nieuws/21297.phtml This seems to be another article like

Re: [discuss] Acute problems in OpenOffice.org development?

2005-04-19 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Just a comment/reminder, not a judgement: Mission Statement To create, as a community, the leading international office suite that will run on ALL MAJOR PLATFORMS and provide access to all functionality and data through open-component based APIs and an XML-based file format.

Re: [discuss] Professional Office...

2005-04-19 Thread Volker Jung
Perhaps you didnt understand the intention behind my posting: I want OO to beat MS... But I cant deny that - just for example - ALL the symbols look like beeing drawn by programmers. Im a programmer myself and know that programmers most often dont have the inspiration to draw symbols that are

[discuss] Re: Has sun sacked half its developers?

2005-04-19 Thread Andrew Brown
Erwin Tenhumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Some people might interpret the article in a way that the ration between Sun and non-Sun developers is something like 50:14. If that really was the case wouldn't that mean that a little more than 20% of the features (=

Re: [discuss] Re: Acute problems in OpenOffice.org development?

2005-04-19 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Diane, I appologize for any inappropriate comments in my blog! Although I do not want to censor my blog comments, I probably have to check how I can do that, in case comments get totally out of control. I don't know why your comment was not accepted. I just submitted a comment to that blog entry

Re: [discuss] Re: Acute problems in OpenOffice.org development?

2005-04-19 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
the dude who wrote the notes didn't have enough the jewels to sign his name. BTW, this unfortunately happens elsewhere, too: http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/jclingan/20050419#anonymous_cowards_bummer Cheers, Erwin

Re: [discuss] Re: Has sun sacked half its developers?

2005-04-19 Thread Rigel
Okay. Hold your horses. Let us not forget one of the most major reasons for SUN open sourcing this project in the first place. To promote competition. If it wasn't open source, StarOffice would most likely still be free to non-commercal customers. I think SUN's biggest concern was communicating

[discuss] Re: Acute problems in OpenOffice.org development?

2005-04-19 Thread Chuck
Daniel Carrera wrote: Stefan Taxhet wrote: Not officially - but the feedback on the beta quality builds (beginning with 1.9.79) seems to tell us that there is work to do before we are ready for a final release. This not only holds true for the code base but for other areas too. We can

[discuss] more on crash

2005-04-19 Thread adrian Greeman
Thanks for the advice and sympathy for the lost work when OO crashed recently. I did not find any backup files (I'm in Win XP and looked in doc and settings and in OOs files of various kinds). Anyway, no matter, I recovered it from my own brain by re-writing (more or less!) which was only

Re: [discuss] Re: Re: Has sun sacked half its developers?

2005-04-19 Thread Daniel Carrera
Andrew Brown wrote: I can tell you quickly two features where external contribution is very big: - Native Widget Framework That's not really an improvement of functionality. Your definition of functionality is not very meanful then. Native widget support is a valuable feature that makes

[discuss] PDF export in Open Office

2005-04-19 Thread KGIsIt
Dear Sirs! I toyed around with the OO 2 beta (OS: Windows). First impression: Very nice! Finally, a data base that seems worthwhile - good work! One thing that bothered me in the 1.1x version and appears to be the same in 2.0: the PDFs made by OO don't use/export Type 1 fonts, at least not

[discuss] Email Client

2005-04-19 Thread Mike Finley
To All, I am an avid user of the Open Office, not only for the fact that it is simple to use, but because I am not forced into excessive licensing fees and upgrade costs and items like that. What I have noticed with the Microsoft Office suite that annoys me is I prefer to use Mozilla

[discuss] Base should be renamed

2005-04-19 Thread Bimal Kharel
The 2.0 OpenOffice package is amazing. From an unclinical survey of office suite users I have seen that most don't know and care for the bells and whistles. Data merges and formulas(in cells, not notation) are about as much high level automation people desire. I think OpenOffice does a great job

Re: [discuss] Has sun sacked half its developers?

2005-04-19 Thread Kazunari Hirano
Hi Andrew, In the Australian Computerworld article. Where is the article? Is it on a magazine? Is it on the Web? May I have a URL? Thanks, khirano - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands,

Re: [discuss] Email Client

2005-04-19 Thread Steve Kopischke
Mike: Have you tried taking your problem to the MozillaZine Thunderbird Support forum @ http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=39 ? I'm pretty sure the solution might be fairly quick and easy. oldgnome Mike Finley said the following on : To All, I am an avid user of the Open Office,

[discuss] Re: Has sun sacked half its developers?

2005-04-19 Thread Andrew Brown
Erwin Tenhumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Some people might interpret the article in a way that the ration between Sun and non-Sun developers is something like 50:14. Well, I started poking around on Google and found a web chat from 2001, nine months after OOo had

Re: [discuss] Re: Re: Has sun sacked half its developers?

2005-04-19 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le mardi 19 avril 2005 20:55 +, Andrew Brown a crit : It still looks as if the big contribution of volunteer developers is bringing OOo on other platforms up to the level of Star Office on Windows. Why would anyone sink huge developments efforts into new features when simple fixes that

Re: [discuss] Re: Re: Has sun sacked half its developers?

2005-04-19 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le mardi 19 avril 2005 20:55 +, Andrew Brown a crit : Ditto. That's an improvement only for people who won't use the perfectly functional Sun implementation of java. I suppose IBM and BEA rewriting large parts of this implementation under windows is all about wasting shareholder money

[discuss] R: [discuss] -sharing OOo among lawyers-

2005-04-19 Thread Moderatore GL-OS
Benissimo! (I hope I wrote that correctly. Sorry if I didn't). *-* Yes, very good ;)) I am an attorney in San Francisco, California (SF, CA for short). I have been trying very hard to get lawyers to use OOo, and have not been very lucky. There are lots and lots of programs in CA law

Re: [discuss] Re: Re: Has sun sacked half its developers?

2005-04-19 Thread Jonathon Blake
Andrew wrote: very big: - Native Widget Framework That's not really an improvement of functionality. sarcasmRight. /sarcasm Critical things that should be P1 are rated P4, because the developers don't know that any country other than the US and Germany exist, or that there are languages

Re: [discuss] Idea and Suggestion

2005-04-19 Thread Chris BONDE
Chris BONDE wrote: Is that the way that word completion works? I thought that it worked from the dictionary that spell check works from. If it works from both, that is great. Thank you for pointing that out. Yes, it takes words from the current document as a guide. Not only

Re: [discuss] Re: Re: Has sun sacked half its developers?

2005-04-19 Thread Robert Derman
Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le mardi 19 avril 2005 20:55 +, Andrew Brown a crit : It still looks as if the big contribution of volunteer developers is bringing OOo on other platforms up to the level of Star Office on Windows. Why would anyone sink huge developments efforts into new

Re: [discuss] Re: Re: Has sun sacked half its developers?

2005-04-19 Thread Daniel Carrera
Robert Derman wrote: Robert Derman replies: If I had to guess, I suspect that some of these frustrations will cause OOo to end up being forked eventually. In a sense, it's been forked twice already: Novell, and NeoOffice/J. Cheers, Daniel.

Re: [discuss] Incompatibility between OpenOffice 2.0 Writer and Microsoft Word

2005-04-19 Thread Peter Kupfer OOo
Bill Wilken wrote: Peter, I will forward this as you have suggested. I do believe, however, that the sponsors of OpenOffice would do well to remember how Microsoft succeeded in displacing WordPerfect as the market leader in word processing. Among other things, they made certain that users

Re: [discuss] New user

2005-04-19 Thread Peter Kupfer OOo
RBB wrote: Hi Peter - Thanks again for the reply. I'm going to be away from my computer for several weeks, a planned trip to visit the family. Can I please put you on hold until I return? This is my first experience with an open source program and my learning curve is climbing. I appreciate

Re: [discuss] Email Client

2005-04-19 Thread Sweet Coffee
Hi Mike and Steve! Mike, please post if you get a solution at the Mozilla forum. SC On 4/19/05, Steve Kopischke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike: Have you tried taking your problem to the MozillaZine Thunderbird Support forum @ http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=39 ? I'm pretty

Re: [discuss] Re: Re: Has sun sacked half its developers?

2005-04-19 Thread hillview
First-up I have not followed all of this thread - not particularly user friendly web interface to do so. I wish to comment as someone that attended the conference where Ken spoke, and as someone that has contributed in his own way to OOo functionality, and as someone that has attempted to

Re: [discuss] Incompatibility between OpenOffice 2.0 Writer and Microsoft Word

2005-04-19 Thread M. Fioretti
On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 19:29:17 PM -0500, Peter Kupfer OOo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I do believe, however, that the sponsors of OpenOffice would do well to remember how Microsoft succeeded in displacing WordPerfect as the market leader in word processing. Among other things, they made certain

Re: [discuss] Re: Has sun sacked half its developers?

2005-04-19 Thread Louis Suarez-Potts
HI, Erwin Tenhumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Some people might interpret the article in a way that the ration between Sun and non-Sun developers is something like 50:14. Well, I started poking around on Google and found a web chat from 2001, nine months after OOo

Re: [discuss] Re: Re: Has sun sacked half its developers?

2005-04-19 Thread Louis Suarez-Potts
Robert Derman wrote: Robert Derman replies: If I had to guess, I suspect that some of these frustrations will cause OOo to end up being forked eventually. In a sense, it's been forked twice already: Novell, and NeoOffice/J. Cheers, Daniel. Oh, it's been forked many times more than that.

Re: [discuss] Re: Re: Has sun sacked half its developers?

2005-04-19 Thread Daniel Carrera
Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: Robert Derman replies: If I had to guess, I suspect that some of these frustrations will cause OOo to end up being forked eventually. In a sense, it's been forked twice already: Novell, and NeoOffice/J. Oh, it's been forked many times more than that. But as