Re: [discuss] help with writer

2008-03-07 Thread Thorsten Behrens
On Thu, Mar 06, 2008 at 07:40:09PM +0100, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: > By the way, since this is the discussion list, why is OpenOffice.org using > the .zip format? Since it is Open Source, wouldn't .tar.bz be a better > choice? > Both implementations are opensource. Zip is an archive format that (opt

[discuss] Another UK school taking up OOo

2008-03-07 Thread Ian Lynch
I was doing some initial INGOT training at Sandwich Technology College UK (place where sandwiches were invented :-) ) that has 1000 computers. They intend to migrate 1000 seats to OOo imminently. Just thought that another success is nice to know about :-) I think quite a lot more schools are usin

[discuss] Re: Invention of sandwiches - was Another UK school taking up OOo

2008-03-07 Thread Gordon
Ian Lynch wrote: I was doing some initial INGOT training at Sandwich Technology College UK (place where sandwiches were invented :-) ) Not at all - they were invented by the Earl of Sandwich who was too engrossed at the gambling table to get up for dinner --

Re: [discuss] Re: Invention of sandwiches - was Another UK school taking up OOo

2008-03-07 Thread Peter Hillier-Brook
Gordon wrote: Ian Lynch wrote: I was doing some initial INGOT training at Sandwich Technology College UK (place where sandwiches were invented :-) ) Not at all - they were invented by the Earl of Sandwich who was too engrossed at the gambling table to get up for dinner Who said irony w

Re: [discuss] help with writer

2008-03-07 Thread Rrambo899
Just wanted to pass this on in hope that this might helps someone. Big part of the problem was attempting to change the file extensions. I recently re-installed XP, re-defaulted settings. There is a setting, in file types, that hides or does not allow you to change the file extensions.

Re: [discuss] help with writer

2008-03-07 Thread Rrambo899
I have a friend that was able to open the corrupted file on his MAC using Neo Office. just wanted to share this. Rene In a message dated 3/7/2008 10:13:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just wanted to pass this on in hope that this might helps someone. Big

Re: [discuss] help with writer

2008-03-07 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
2008/3/7, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Just wanted to pass this on in hope that this might helps someone. Big > part > of the problem was attempting to change the file extensions. I recently > re-installed XP, re-defaulted settings. There is a setting, in file > types, that > hi

Re: [discuss] LGPL 3..0

2008-03-07 Thread Robin Laing
Bottom post John Boyle wrote: To jonathon: That is NOT the way it sounds! However, I will take your word for it, until I see the real results! :-( jonathon wrote: On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 8:55 PM, John Boyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: People who have files in OOo format that they have made

Re: [discuss] Re: Invention of sandwiches - was Another UK school taking up OOo

2008-03-07 Thread Michael Adams
On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 10:01:37 + Gordon wrote: > Ian Lynch wrote: > > I was doing some initial INGOT training at Sandwich Technology > > College UK (place where sandwiches were invented :-) ) > > Not at all - they were invented by the Earl of Sandwich who was too > engrossed at the gambling t

[discuss] Why not LGPL _and_ LGPL 3.0 ?

2008-03-07 Thread theUser BL
I was shocked, if I have read now, that OOo 3.0 will be licensed under the LGPL3. Why? Isn't it possible to dual-license it, so that it is under the LGPL _and_ LGPL3 ? Greatings theuserbl Btw: Yes, I wrote "LGPL _and_ LGPL3" and not "LGPL2 _and_ LGPL3". Because only the LGPL2 is _the_ LGPL.

[discuss] Re: LGPL 3..0

2008-03-07 Thread NoOp
On 03/06/2008 10:26 PM, Michael Adams wrote: > On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:54:24 -0600 > Alexandro Colorado wrote: > >> How does it sound then? >> > > The LGPL is the licence that the program is released under. > OpenOffice.org (OO.o) is given to you as long as you adhere to your part > of the LGPL.

Re: [discuss] Why not LGPL _and_ LGPL 3.0 ?

2008-03-07 Thread Alexandro Colorado
The only difference is to avoid the introduction of DRM technology into OOo under chapter 3? Are you doing such a thing? On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 13:31:30 -0600, theUser BL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I was shocked, if I have read now, that OOo 3.0 will be licensed under the LGPL3. Why? Isn

Re: [discuss] Re: LGPL 3..0

2008-03-07 Thread Alexandro Colorado
This basically says that you CAN distribute software under Bittorrent. Since Bittorrent uses nodes where the users are not aware they are distributing GPL-LGPL software and they give the right to deny distributing this software if you dont agree to be a distributor. On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 13:

Re: [discuss] Why not LGPL _and_ LGPL 3.0 ?

2008-03-07 Thread Alexandro Colorado
The only substancial difference between LGPL3.0 and LGPL is the clause 3 to avoid DMCA involvement. On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 13:31:30 -0600, theUser BL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I was shocked, if I have read now, that OOo 3.0 will be licensed under the LGPL3. Why? Isn't it possible to dua

[discuss] Re: LGPL 3..0

2008-03-07 Thread NoOp
On 03/07/2008 12:00 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > This basically says that you CAN distribute software under Bittorrent. > Since Bittorrent uses nodes where the users are not aware they are > distributing GPL-LGPL software and they give the right to deny > distributing this software if you

Re: [discuss] LGPL 3..0

2008-03-07 Thread John Boyle
To Alexandro Colorado: As this message states, the code itself will be different and incompatible and that is what I based my statement on! Can you show me how an incompatibility of code can be just a change of license and not a stumbling block? Alexandro Colorado wrote: File format or data is

Re: [discuss] Re: LGPL 3..0

2008-03-07 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:05:38 -0600, NoOp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 03/07/2008 12:00 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: This basically says that you CAN distribute software under Bittorrent. Since Bittorrent uses nodes where the users are not aware they are distributing GPL-LGPL software and they

Re: [discuss] LGPL 3..0

2008-03-07 Thread Alexandro Colorado
OOo has gone through many licenceses on the commercial side (the so called CCDL and later became some other SUN license). Then again the codebase never changed. At one point it was very intensively debated to switch it to GPL exclusively (no LGPL). That change never happened, however if it

Re: [discuss] LGPL 3..0

2008-03-07 Thread John Boyle
To Robin Laing: Because the initial information states the New Lgpl 3 code will be incompatible with the older LGPL, thereby rendering all older versions obsolete! That is what was stated and unless someone cannot understand English they should clarify that quickly! :-( Robin Laing wrote: Bo

[discuss] Re: LGPL 3..0

2008-03-07 Thread Stefan Monnier
> "You are not required to accept this License in order to receive or run > a copy of the Program." In the US and several other countries this is indeed the case: the fact that you were able to get a legal copy of the program gives you the right to run it, just like you have the right to read a bo

Re: [discuss] LGPL 3..0

2008-03-07 Thread jonathon
John wrote: > To Robin Laing: Because the initial information states the New Lgpl code > will be incompatible with the older LGPL, thereby rendering all older > versions obsolete! LGPL 3.0 is incompatible with LGPL 2.x (where 'x"is whatever version OOo uses.) The incompatibly is purely betwee

[discuss] Re: LGPL 3..0

2008-03-07 Thread NoOp
On 03/07/2008 02:13 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:05:38 -0600, NoOp <> wrote: >> Ah, I see that now. >> >> But for the end user, wouldn't: >> >> "You are not required to accept this License in order to receive or run >> a copy of the Program." >> >> indicate that the end-u

Re: [discuss] LGPL 3..0

2008-03-07 Thread Robert Derman
John Boyle wrote: To Robin Laing: Because the initial information states the New Lgpl 3 code will be incompatible with the older LGPL, thereby rendering all older versions obsolete! That is what was stated and unless someone cannot understand English they should clarify that quickly! :-( Robi