Re: [discuss] Re: Microsoft eyes making desktop apps free

2005-11-16 Thread Robin Laing
Chad Smith wrote: On 11/15/05, John Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wake me up when there's MSOffice for linux, FreeBSD, BeOS, etc. Crossover Office, WINE, Win4Lin. But it is NOT native so it isn't for Linux, FreeBSD, BeOS, etc. It is running via an emulator so John's original

Re: [discuss] Re: Microsoft eyes making desktop apps free

2005-11-16 Thread Chad Smith
On 11/16/05, Robin Laing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But it is NOT native so it isn't for Linux, FreeBSD, BeOS, etc. It is running via an emulator so John's original statement stands. OOo doesn't run on Mac natively. It has to have a foreign windowing system for it to work. Does that mean OOo

Re: [discuss] Re: Microsoft eyes making desktop apps free

2005-11-16 Thread Tim Fairchild
On Thursday 17 Nov 2005 11:44, Chad Smith wrote: On 11/16/05, Tim Fairchild [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It can hardly be 'tied' to the windows platform when it runs on all the unix types. Of course you may say that MSO is no longer tied to windows either since it can run on Mac and many unix

Re: [discuss] Re: Microsoft eyes making desktop apps free

2005-11-15 Thread Ian Lynch
On Mon, 2005-11-14 at 19:37 -0600, John Thompson wrote: Why would this be bad for OOo? I can understand why MS feels threatened by OOo and other non-MS software, but where's the downside for OOo here? MSOffice will likely still be bound to the Windows platform and Microsoft file formats,

Re: [discuss] Re: Microsoft eyes making desktop apps free

2005-11-15 Thread Robin Laing
Chad Smith wrote: On 11/14/05, John Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why would this be bad for OOo? I can understand why MS feels threatened by OOo and other non-MS software, but where's the downside for OOo here? MSOffice will likely still be bound to the Windows platform and Microsoft file

[discuss] Re: Microsoft eyes making desktop apps free

2005-11-15 Thread William Baric
Chad Smith a écrit : And if this takes off, a crippled-ad-supported MS Office can't be far down the trial. Whether we'd like to admit it or not, many people use OOo simply because it is free (as in no price). They see it as a free subsitute for MS Office. And if MS Office becomes free (or

[discuss] Re: Microsoft eyes making desktop apps free

2005-11-15 Thread John Thompson
On 2005-11-15, Chad Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/14/05, John Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MSOffice will likely still be bound to the Windows platform and Microsoft file formats, both of which are significant concerns for many people. MSOffice is not bound to the Windows

Re: [discuss] Re: Microsoft eyes making desktop apps free

2005-11-15 Thread Chad Smith
On 11/15/05, John Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wake me up when there's MSOffice for linux, FreeBSD, BeOS, etc. Crossover Office, WINE, Win4Lin. If there is an office for anything other than Windows, it's not tied to the Windows platform. And it's not like LInux is more popular than

Re: [discuss] Re: Microsoft eyes making desktop apps free

2005-11-15 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Or when MS fixes the interoperability bugs (e.g. with ODBC) in MS Office for the Macintosh. Right now OOo works many platforms not just Gates' own. -Lars Lars Nooden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Software patents kill innovation and harm all Net-based business. Keep them out of the EU by

[discuss] Re: Microsoft eyes making desktop apps free

2005-11-14 Thread Randomthots
Shawn K. Quinn wrote: Free of charge (price) is not the same thing as free as a bird or free speech (freedom). Understand that for the vast majority (including me) the difference is almost moot. The fact that I couldn't hack the code if my life depended on it renders open-source the

[discuss] Re: Microsoft eyes making desktop apps free

2005-11-14 Thread John Thompson
On 2005-11-14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This ZDNN (http://news.zdnet.com/) story has been sent to you from [EMAIL PROTECTED], who added this comment: This could be bad for OOo. Microsoft eyes making desktop apps free Why would this be bad for OOo? I can understand why MS

Re: [discuss] Re: Microsoft eyes making desktop apps free

2005-11-14 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Mon, 2005-11-14 at 17:45 -0600, Randomthots wrote: Shawn K. Quinn wrote: Free of charge (price) is not the same thing as free as a bird or free speech (freedom). Understand that for the vast majority (including me) the difference is almost moot. The fact that I couldn't hack the code

Re: [discuss] Re: Microsoft eyes making desktop apps free

2005-11-14 Thread Chad Smith
On 11/14/05, John Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why would this be bad for OOo? I can understand why MS feels threatened by OOo and other non-MS software, but where's the downside for OOo here? MSOffice will likely still be bound to the Windows platform and Microsoft file formats, both of