Re: [discuss] Official request to the community council

2010-04-18 Thread John W Kennedy
On Apr 17, 2010, at 8:28 AM, Bernhard Dippold wrote: The third is consistency between preview and symbol. At least on Windows most file previews don't only show the content of the file, but the application symbol at the lower right corner. This additional information helps not only to know

Re: [discuss] Official request to the community council [was: OOo and Oracle]

2010-04-18 Thread Bernhard Dippold
Hi Cor, * Cor Nouws schrieb: Bernhard Dippold wrote (14-04-10 00:52) Cor Nouws schrieb: [...] Looks as if you ask the council to reconsider the decision (...) to not change further on the product-independent odf icons. Not exactly: I ask the council to decide on the change itself: Is it

Re: [discuss] Official request to the community council [was: OOo and Oracle]

2010-04-17 Thread Bernhard Dippold
Hi Cor, * Cor Nouws schrieb: [...] About open questions: I wonder if you/others have links to threads / posts on project lists where there has been discussion about this aspect of the icons. There has been quite a number of threads on disc...@ux, including a summary of the discussion on

Re: [discuss] Official request to the community council [was: OOo and Oracle]

2010-04-16 Thread Lars Nooden
On 04/14/2010 12:15 AM, Bernhard Dippold wrote: I don't want to discuss the design of the icons here - it's about their basics: Bernhard, please read up on the interoperability goals of ODF, that might help you catch up. In general, a fundamental goal of a universal document format is that

Re: [discuss] Official request to the community council [was: OOo and Oracle]

2010-04-16 Thread Andrew Jensen
Thank you, that is a good choice, Bernhard: Lead, follow, or get out of the way. Regards /Lars That cuts both way Lar's. If you have ODF over OO.o as your goals then perhaps you should move over to the oasis team and let those want to work on this office suite proceed with what they feel

Re: [discuss] Official request to the community council [was: OOo and Oracle]

2010-04-16 Thread Lars Nooden
Re-read my message, Drew. Breaking from normal icon schemes by providing non-standard icons for standard formats is bad marketing for OOo because it implies that somehow OOo might not be using real ODF and instead using a broken version, like M$ Office does. Having icons tied to the

Re: [discuss] Official request to the community council [was: OOo and Oracle]

2010-04-16 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Lars, Lars Nooden wrote (16-04-10 13:45) Your colleagues at M$ and branches of M$ like Novell support the same divisiveness of the data formats. ODF is for all productivity suites. I don't think it is reasonable or fair towards Bernard to somehow suggest him being a colleague of MS

Re: [discuss] Official request to the community council [was: OOo and Oracle]

2010-04-16 Thread Lars Nooden
On 04/16/2010 05:28 PM, Cor Nouws wrote: I don't think it is reasonable or fair towards Bernard to somehow suggest him being a colleague of MS guys. Sorry, it must have been the content of his messages over time that gave that illusion. We'll say it's a coincidence. Regardless, the basics

Re: [discuss] Official request to the community council [was: OOo and Oracle]

2010-04-16 Thread Jean-Baptiste Faure
Hi Lars, Le 16.04.2010 13:45, Lars Nooden a écrit : On 04/14/2010 12:15 AM, Bernhard Dippold wrote: I don't want to discuss the design of the icons here - it's about their basics: Bernhard, please read up on the interoperability goals of ODF, that might help you catch up. In general, a

Re: [discuss] Official request to the community council [was: OOo and Oracle]

2010-04-14 Thread Bernhard Dippold
Hi Cor, all I changed the subject, because I want to follow your proposal to position my concerns officially at the Community Council, while keeping in this thread in order to inform the community about this specific request. *Please don't support the application independency of the ODF

Re: [discuss] Official request to the community council [was: OOo and Oracle]

2010-04-13 Thread Bernhard Dippold
Hi Cor, Cor Nouws schrieb: Hi Bernard, *, Bernhard Dippold wrote (13-04-10 23:25) I changed the subject, because I want to follow your proposal to position my concerns officially at the Community Council, while keeping in this thread in order to inform the community about this specific