Re: [discuss] re: Massachussetts registered voters

2005-10-28 Thread cono
Chad Smith wrote: On 10/27/05, cono [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw a message from you passing swifty to my bin ;-) You wrote that you do indeed support OOo. Well, no doubt about that from me. As I see your role: you want to prevent people from being to naive, eye-shelved, optimistic,

Re: [discuss] re: Massachussetts registered voters

2005-10-27 Thread cono
Hi Chad, cono wrote: Ian Lynch wrote: On Wed, 2005-10-26 at 11:40 -0400, Chad Smith wrote: You still around, Chad? I thought you would have taken the hint by now seeing that everyone else apart from you in this group sees ODF's success as important to OOo's success. If you can't be

Re: [discuss] re: Massachussetts registered voters

2005-10-27 Thread Chad Smith
On 10/27/05, cono [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw a message from you passing swifty to my bin ;-) You wrote that you do indeed support OOo. Well, no doubt about that from me. As I see your role: you want to prevent people from being to naive, eye-shelved, optimistic, unrealistic etc. Doing

Re: [discuss] re: Massachussetts registered voters

2005-10-27 Thread Ian Lynch
On Thu, 2005-10-27 at 15:31 -0400, Chad Smith wrote: I also get upset (since you claimed that is what I do) by people constantly claiming I have some sort of learning disability, The solution is simple, Chad, demonstrate to all those people that you haven't. -- Ian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[discuss] re: Massachussetts registered voters

2005-10-26 Thread Dan Kegel
Lars wrote: It would be useful to pin down the sources and specifics of the basis for Pacheco's claims. (e.g. which disability groups and what have they been made upset about) The article http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2005/10/25/galvin_attacks_software_proposal says that

Re: [discuss] re: Massachussetts registered voters

2005-10-26 Thread Chad Smith
On 10/26/05, Dan Kegel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The article http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2005/10/25/galvin_attacks_software_proposal says that blind office workers are saying they're worried they won't be able to use it. I looked into this a bit. snip Has anyone on

[discuss] Re: Massachussetts registered voters

2005-10-26 Thread Chuck
Marco Fioretti wrote: Any Massachussetts registered voters could help out by contacting their governor, secretary of state and their representative in the state senate regarding this issue: http://www.infoworld.com/article/05/10/25/HNstateopendoc_1.html It would be useful to pin down the

Re: [discuss] Re: Massachussetts registered voters

2005-10-26 Thread Adam Moore
Anybody who goes to this meeting will think it's important. Just because it's not on the grand scale doesn't mean people don't think it's important. If someone was to hand out fliers it would be for the specific meeting not around town. On 10/26/05, Chuck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think

Re: [discuss] re: Massachussetts registered voters

2005-10-26 Thread Ian Lynch
On Wed, 2005-10-26 at 07:37 -0700, Dan Kegel wrote: Has anyone on this list tested screen readers like JAWS with OpenOffice 2.0 to verify whether the complains in the two messages I linked to are still real? What are the real system requirements? Can someone find out and update

Re: [discuss] re: Massachussetts registered voters

2005-10-26 Thread Chad Smith
On 10/26/05, Ian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If MS support ODF it isn't an issue as this would be a good sales proposition for sticking with MS Office even if it and OOo have interchangeable files. If MS don't support ODF and the community, including the big companies ensure that OOo has

Re: [discuss] re: Massachussetts registered voters

2005-10-26 Thread Chad Smith
On 10/26/05, Ian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2005-10-26 at 11:40 -0400, Chad Smith wrote: You still around, Chad? I thought you would have taken the hint by now seeing that everyone else apart from you in this group sees ODF's success as important to OOo's success. If you can't be

Re: [discuss] Re: Massachussetts registered voters

2005-10-26 Thread M. Fioretti
On Wed, Oct 26, 2005 10:55:50 AM -0400, Chuck ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I don't think non IT-savvy citizens give a hoot about this issue and would probably look at you funny if you tried to hand out fliers. :-( By this line of reasoning, it's hard to see why one should bother to use or know

Re: [discuss] re: Massachussetts registered voters

2005-10-26 Thread cono
Ian Lynch wrote: On Wed, 2005-10-26 at 11:40 -0400, Chad Smith wrote: You still around, Chad? I thought you would have taken the hint by now seeing that everyone else apart from you in this group sees ODF's success as important to OOo's success. If you can't be constructive in supporting this

Re: [discuss] re: Massachussetts registered voters

2005-10-26 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Wed, 2005-10-26 at 12:22 -0400, Chad Smith wrote: And, if ODF is so all consuming, why would you *want* Microsoft to support it? If ODF is all that matters about OOo, as soon as MSO supports it, OOo is dead, right? I mean, if ODF success is the only key to OOo success - then if MSO has it,

Re: [discuss] re: Massachussetts registered voters

2005-10-26 Thread Adam Moore
On 10/26/05, Dan Kegel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone on this list tested screen readers like JAWS with OpenOffice 2.0 to verify whether the complains in the two messages I linked to are still real? What are the real system requirements? Can someone find out and update

Re: [discuss] re: Massachussetts registered voters

2005-10-26 Thread Adam Moore
On 10/26/05, Adam Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I decided to download the JAWS software and try it out on openoffice. I then compared it with MS Excel and it read pretty much the same way. Their were a couple of differences. 1) When you click on an item in the toolbar of excel it read you