You can see the available templates here:
https://mediawiki.gnustep.org/index.php/Special:AllPages?from=&to=&namespace=10
On Thu, Jul 25, 2024 at 12:10 AM Riccardo Mottola <
riccardo.mott...@libero.it> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> first - heads up - our wiki is working again. So updates to tutorials,
> guid
On Thu, Jul 25, 2024 at 12:43 PM H. Nikolaus Schaller
wrote:
> The benefit of SWI would be that it is agnostic to the distribution -
> which can also be a bad thing if dependencies are not available... So it
> works for binary .app-Bundle downloads only if there is a 100% stable API
> and set of
On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 12:51 PM Ivan Vučica wrote:
> 1. Have app main function and UIApplication implemented.
>
Looks like this also explicitly lacks the Java layer
(parseNewQuery, parseCurrentUser, shareJourney, getPublicDocumentsDir etc),
but this is largely ok and most things don'
This is indeed great news, and would be an excellent contribution; it would
really be cool to see an assignment to FSF indeed.
An ideal implementation would use CALayer underneath UIView, rather than
-renderWithBoundsToGL. GNUstep has CALayer in the form of the library which
is "still" called 'GSQ
I saw this: this was recently addressed by replacing probe of example.org/silly-url-test because example.org started returning 503 or similar for that URL instead of 404.Incoming PR addressed this on every other platform by replacing example.org with another piece of infrastructure we don’t fully c
+1, FTP is insecure (no validation whatsoever that your connection did not get
intercepted), needlessly forces the requester to distinguish between the text
and binary files before initiating a request, and defaults to pushing a file
back by opening a new connection to the requester (which is no
Let me join the holiday cheers, albeit a bit late.On 27 Dec 2023, at 03:53, Gryllida wrote:Hi allI have been using wmaker with gnustep as my main desktop. On the irc live chat I have started collaborating on a weather app. Insanely happy about this and all the effort that goes into maintaining gn
On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 5:42 PM Ivan Vučica wrote:
>
> Similar question for today's meeting. Hugo and myself are in the call,
> but I am guessing nobody else is joining us? We'll likely call it a
> day soon.
Today was a useful meeting for me.
- I shared the situation on
> > ftpmain.gnustep.org are both down).
> >
> > Are the source archives moving? (I'm currently updating the PikoPixel &
> > ReDoomEd install scripts for Fedora; Fedora doesn't have distro packages
> > for GNUstep GUI & Back, so the install scri
I’d like to attend this one. Can you add me directly, Gregory?And +1 on rescheduling for the same reason (fosdem).On 31 Jan 2023, at 05:28, lars.sonchocky-helld...@hamburg.de wrote:i am not at FOSDEM, but I think Ivan is. So I propose a reschedule to Saturday, the 11. of February 2023, 18:30 - 19:
I’ll be there. Liam has my contact details. I’ll to pay attention to email.
I might not be at ULB campus the entire time, we can arrange a more specific
meeting time.
I think attending talks in rooms will be secondary for me this year, I rarely
got into rooms I wanted over the years, and I don’
It should hopefully really be a one-step upgrade, if the documentation is
right, but you never know with software seemingly released in 2004/2005...
sent from phone
On Tue, Sep 13, 2022, 07:53 Riccardo Mottola
wrote:
> Hi Ivan
>
> Ivan Vučica wrote:
> > We have a problem. All t
ware won't function unless we get a dead pre-7.0 version
of PHP running (for things like Software Index), or upgrade.third
party software (such as MediaWiki).
On Sun, Sep 4, 2022 at 7:39 PM Ivan Vučica wrote:
>
> I got all 4 .sql files to load on my local MariaDB.
>
> Continuing
I got all 4 .sql files to load on my local MariaDB.
Continuing tomorrow.
On Sun, Sep 4, 2022 at 7:17 PM Ivan Vučica wrote:
>
> I'm doing the barest minimum of the changes. If the original machine
> had MyISAM, I'm using MyISAM. If the installed software was using
> MyISAM
rather than MySQL/MariaDB).
On Sun, Sep 4, 2022 at 7:13 PM Andreas Fink wrote:
>
> why you dont use innodb as engine? much less troubles in case of crashes and
> reboots
>
>
>
> On Sonntag, Sept. 04, 2022 at 8:02 PM, Ivan Vučica wrote:
> Update:
> - I added wiki.gnustep.o
Cawthorne wrote:
>
> On 2022-08-30 14:28:54 -0700 Ivan Vučica wrote:
>
> > I've spent some time today on playing with Ansible thinking it may be
> > better to do it sooner rather than later. I'll leave that aside for
> > now.
> >
> > By the time I g
hey can be imported: schemas have changed between the version
on the old server and MariaDB 10.x that I have on the new one. It
should be relatively easy, if possibly labor intensive.
I'll leave it for tomorrow.
On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 9:09 PM Ivan Vučica wrote:
>
> I've synced
I've synced the latest backups I have to the server, I've picked up
new ones from our host, and I'm looking at setting up basic services.
I've stopped now as I got tired, and will resume tomorrow.
In the meantime, I've left www.gnustep.org pointing to the temporary
redirect, but I have set up A r
;
> Excellent article, but I have to say that saying GNUstep as an
> implementation of NeXTSTEP is half our issue. It would be better to say it
> is an implementation of Cocoa.
>
> GC
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 22, 2021 at 17:15 Liam Proven wrote:
>>
>&g
On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 3:48 PM Liam Proven wrote:
> GNUstep also has a packaging system, which is the reason I discussed
> it in my article.
I'm unaware of a packaging system in GNUstep; I admit not to know of
everything or keeping up with everything in GNUstep, however.
I'm also unaware of the
On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 9:34 AM Andreas Fink wrote:
>
> packages in Debian are quite old
Inaccurate.
At release times, I usually try to coordinate with Debian packagers.
This time, it took a bit longer, but uploads happened in November and
December. See links below.
Thank you, Yavor and Gurkan.
MD5 hashes:
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ab378f01a92d636e3ef2674677b5af4e gnustep-back-0.29.0.tar.gz.sig
1 Announcement
**
This is version 0.29.0 of the GNUstep GUI Backend ('gnustep-back').
1.1 What is the GNUstep GUI Backend?
===
MD5 hashes:
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1 Announcement
**
This is version 0.29.0 of the GNUstep GUI library ('gnustep-gui').
1.1 What is the GNUstep GUI Library?
==
MD5 hashes:
776cc378b35483d046a8bb4da4b9ea18 gnustep-base-1.28.0.tar.gz
4c39ab30fe6b702ab8aaba47390a084b gnustep-base-1.28.0.tar.gz.sig
1 Announcement
**
The GNUstep Base Library, version 1.28.0, is now available.
1.1 What is the GNUstep Base Library?
==
MD5 hashes:
6ddb71d5b312e50e98a2e6fad8c766d0 gnustep-make-2.9.0.tar.gz
cec74c3453a7187817177abb7de8fb17 gnustep-make-2.9.0.tar.gz.sig
1 Announcement
**
The GNUstep Makefile Package version 2.9.0 is now available.
1.1 What is the GNUstep Makefile Package?
===
On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 1:13 AM Ivan Vučica wrote:
> Lars, what's the benefit of joining the Assembly?
I've read up on this further, and I am retracting my questions and my
participation in this thread.
It seems like this is a political issue, the kind that I prefer to
avoid par
On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 10:43 PM lars.sonchocky-helld...@hamburg.de
wrote:
> Would this be something for GNUstep to join?
No opinion on my part, just some questions:
What does "the ability to act collectively" mean? Does GNUstep
specifically have another GNU project to "produc[e] technical
recom
Subscribed and even pressed the bell icons (which I don't usually do),
let's see how this goes!
On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 11:59 PM Robert Slover wrote:
> Thanks for the heads-up.
>
> —Robert
>
> > On Mar 2, 2021, at 16:23, Josh Freeman
> wrote:
> >
> > Developers Graham Lee & Steven Baker are
It's sufficient to send one mail to the mailing list, from a single
source address :-)
On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 12:54 PM juan-Cristobal Castro wrote:
>
> I am trying to install the four core GNUstep packages on cygwin64 on Windows
> 10 64bit, I have successfully build the first package "gnustep-m
The world owes Dr. Cox a lot. May he rest in peace.
Thank you for sharing.
On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 8:38 PM Josh Freeman
wrote:
>
> Dr. Brad Cox, who co-created the Objective-C language with
> business partner Tom Love, has passed:
> https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/scnow/name/brad-cox-ob
On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 9:32 PM Svetlana Tkachenko
wrote:
> However, ideally, I would recommend that a mirror of all GitHub content is
> maintained elsewhere, in case this big company decides to ask for money,
> disappear, change hosting policies, or something else happens to it.
Use `git clone
On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 7:23 PM H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
> > Footer links to https://projects.goldelico.com/p/swi/. This is fine,
> > but the path to contributing should be clearer.
>
> Indeed.
>
> Alternatively if you have access to cvs.savannah.gnu.org:/web/gnustep
> you should find it in /so
Love the website, thanks!
On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 3:56 PM Johannes Brakensiek
wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> On 15 Dec 2020, at 21:28, Johannes Brakensiek wrote:
>
> > In the meantime I installed Arch/Manjaro on my development laptop as
> > you are provided with much more recent packages when usi
On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 5:40 PM H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
> > - The code is not in the main repos
>
> It is on github: https://github.com/goldelico/swi
Footer links to https://projects.goldelico.com/p/swi/. This is fine,
but the path to contributing should be clearer.
> > - I don't have admin
On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 5:15 PM H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
> So who has spent more time on administering the software index than me?
> And I have spent 0 hours the past years. Except in the role as
> reviewer/moderator
> for change proposals every now and then. But that is not PHP or MySQL code
On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 5:11 PM H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
> It did not need any maintainance in between. But it could be copied to
> any Linux host with apt-get install apache2 php mysql in ca. 30 minutes.
This assumes you're always around -- or someone else that has dealt
with PHP and MySQL is
On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 2:19 PM H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
> >
> > And requires someone to pay for host an SQL database and someone to be
> > responsible for security updates.
>
> I am not aware that we did pay anything for PHP and SQL database of the swi
> in the past 8 years. Why should that
On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 12:58 PM H. Nikolaus Schaller
wrote:
> > I realise that some people dislike JavaScript, but in 2021 I think that
> > battle is probably lost.
>
> No I don't dislike it at all - but why do a new solution if one exists?
To my understanding, the current solution requires r
On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 7:18 AM H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
>
>
> > Am 19.01.2021 um 00:36 schrieb Ivan Vučica :
> >
> > Some options:
> >
> > - Should we turn the index into a set of static pages generated from
> > MySQL data, which we then check in?
>
o sites to increase
> > visibility e.g., https://teespring.com/stores/gnustep
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Patryk
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Dec 18, 2019, at 13:01, Ivan Vučica wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 1:1
Congrats on the release!
On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 2:24 AM Josh Freeman
wrote:
>
> PikoPixel is a free, open-source (AGPLv3*) pixel-art editor for
> Mac OS X & GNUstep.
>
> A new version has been released - 1.0 BETA10 - which fixes several
> issues:
>
> - Mac: Fixed scrolling/zooming slowdo
/Functions.m#L63 carefully, but don’t be surprised if lack of x11 breaks GUI classes. You break it (into pieces), you get to pick up those pieces and glue them together :) (Yes, I noticed you said you went ahead and removed some backend-dependent code. This sounds like it’ll be a lot of fun…) Ivan Vučica
communicate with your server’s API and offer the CalDAV/CardDAV frontend. Ivan Vučica From: Andreas Höschler via Discussion list for the GNUstep programming environmentSent: Saturday 31 October 2020 17:44To: GNUstep DiscussCc: Fred KieferSubject: CalDav-Server for GNUstep Hi all, I have developed a
On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 11:02 AM lars.sonchocky-helld...@hamburg.de
wrote:
>
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=68083
> Product/Component: CDT / cdt-parser
>
>
> Marc-André Laperle changed:
>
> What|Removed |Added
> --
I think you're reading it correctly. Depending on this across platforms
would be a tricky proposition; even if NSMenuItem supports it, I expect
only partial compatibility on native themes on various platforms.
A great way to support this would be to try implementing it NSMenuItem and
in gnustep-ba
Congrats on your launch!
Looking forward to trying out the toolchain scripts. From following the
patches here-and-there, this is bound to be much better than the hack I
initially put together. I'm looking forward to rebuilding my old
experimental code with the new process.
Do you have an opensour
This is cool
On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 12:47 AM Gregory Casamento
wrote:
>
> This should download install GNUstep on debian in one command:
>
> /bin/bash -c "$(curl -fsSL
> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/gnustep/tools-scripts/master/gnustep-web-install)"
>
> My goal is to make this universal so
Except it won't work when the dependencies are not the same between Debian
and Ubuntu.
(Unless the PPA repo is Debian specific: https://launchpad.net/debian/+ppas
— however, a quick 1min look at this doesn't show packages actually being
uploaded here, so maybe this is not supported anyway.)
sent
Note that I patched gnustep-make many years ago to produce source packages
which I experimentally uploaded to Canonical's PPA system and thus produced
binary packages. I never claimed ~gnustep, though ;)
They likely don't confirm to many of the Debian standards, and I didn't use
this in a long tim
On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 10:09 AM Andreas Höschler via Discussion list
for the GNUstep programming environment
wrote:
> > Then I saw the rest of the code you attached. My thought goes in the
> > direction of ‘_sharedMapView’-related code. Even though you’re allocating a
> > whole new window only
at actually does the drawing, create a new project, and slowly move in the drawing code into this PNG export function, you’d more easily notice the problems Ivan Vučica From: Fred KieferSent: Thursday 11 June 2020 22:57To: Andreas HöschlerCc: GNUstep DiscussSubject: Re: cairo drawing problem Hi Andreas
Well spotted, but the correct approach is actually to use "sudo -E" instead
of just "sudo" to inherit the current environment.
Otherwise you'd have to source the environment script within the new shell;
sudo bash -c "source $path_to_gnustepsh && make install", perhaps?
And, are .profile and .bash
Use make_services:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/gnu.gnustep.discuss/6SQ4sEbi5Gc
It ships with GNUstep GUI:
https://github.com/gnustep/libs-gui/blob/a92b030dcbc226b04cfdf0f91e9cb9b7995f989e/Tools/make_services.m
Reading it should probably hint you at which files are read when trying to
> On 2 May 2020, at 18:58, Frederik Seiffert wrote:
>
> Hi Stefan,
>
I rebuilt the Android Toolchain with the current state of master today and
updated the cmake arguments with "-DANDROID_STL=c++_shared“ according to
the examples, but now I’m getting a crash with
j
On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 7:33 PM Ivan Vučica wrote:
>
> Some updates, especially. for those who didn't follow
> https://github.com/gnustep/libs-back/pull/17.
>
> Fred and I have chosen to merge sooner rather than later. Despite the
> rendering being ultra buggy (screens
Some updates, especially. for those who didn't follow
https://github.com/gnustep/libs-back/pull/17.
Fred and I have chosen to merge sooner rather than later. Despite the
rendering being ultra buggy (screenshots posted on the pull request
above -- floating wayland surfaces seem to be created even f
On Mon 6 Apr 2020 at 10:38, Riccardo Mottola
wrote:
> Ah!
>
> Ivan Vučica wrote:
> > Next up, GNUstep on m68k System 7.
>
>
> I'll leave system 7 rest... in its floppies. But m68k is just my first
> love. For years I regularly did check and run GNUstep on m68k! N
Next up, GNUstep on m68k System 7.
On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 7:26 PM lars.sonchocky-helld...@hamburg.de
wrote:
>
>
>
> > Am 05.04.2020 um 00:43 schrieb Riccardo Mottola
> > :
> >
> > Hey Lars,
> >
> > lars.sonchocky-helld...@hamburg.de wrote:
> >> While being not genuinely GNUstep, some of us might
This is pretty cool!
On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 11:39 AM Gregory Casamento
wrote:
> I *REALLY* do love the part where it shows the window in the middle of the
> screen with just "yo" on it.
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 7:52 PM Umberto Cerrato
> wrote:
>
>> That’s cool!!
>> Thank you for sharing
>>
To add:
I also installed mutter from Debian testing (required installation of
Xwayland as well), ran it with 'mutter --wayland --nested', and I
could run SystemPreferences from it.
Unfortunately, the window doesn't display initially (it's invisible,
kind of like the experience I had attempting to
On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 9:23 PM Ladislav Michl wrote:
>
> Keep in mind that it will break any git-bisect plumbing people might run
> on libs-back as you are intentionally creating point in history, where
> things even do not compile.
I haven't thought about it that way before. This is worth consi
Yep, Josh has discussed this here earlier, and sent us a release
announce email a few days ago :-)
On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 8:24 PM Liam Proven wrote:
>
> http://twilightedge.com/mac/redoomed/
>
> --
> Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven
> Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Han
On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 8:54 AM Ladislav Michl wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jan 07, 2020 at 09:39:57PM +, Ivan Vučica wrote:
> > ...and now actually attaching the patches before the Debian pastes expire.
>
> Hmm, sending all the patches inline as a patch serie with nice cover letter
FYI this ended up in spam for me. Not sure why.
This is super exciting! Looking forward to taking some time to merge this.
I've attached the patches for archival purposes, and will take a look at
updating the forked tree. We will definitely want the copyright assignment
to FSF; Sergio mentioned h
On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 1:17 PM Manuel Guesdon wrote:
>
> - make a CNAME www.gnustep.org => gnustep.github.io (but server hosting
>gnustep.github.io should accept requests for www.gnustep.org)
This merely requires creating a file named 'CNAME' in the github repo
for gnustep.github.io (i.e.
ht
On Thu 28 Nov 2019 at 04:13, Maxthon Chan wrote:
> We should have three layers of falling back: OpenGL-on-Vulcan first, pure
> OpenGL next, Cairo software rendering last.
>
If you are saying “CA-on-OpenGL-on-Vulcan”, my POV is: that’s up to the
user to figure out how they will use their OpenGL s
On Wed 27 Nov 2019 at 18:58, David Chisnall
wrote:
> On 27 Nov 2019, at 18:29, Ivan Vučica wrote:
> >
> > I will intentionally not discuss this further, and I have
> > intentionally not dug very deep. I don't want to be overly exposed to
> > ideas beyond the A
ndle all the actual rendering,
> including rasterization? The CPU-based renderer (Cairo) would be reserved
> when rendering to raster image files.
>
> -----邮件原件-
> 发件人: Ivan Vučica
> 发送时间: 2019年11月28日 2:29
> 收件人: Max Chan
> 抄送: Discuss-gnustep Discuss
> 主题: Re: SwiftUI c
We're straying off of the main discussion again now, but I'll do one
more response :-)
On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 6:02 PM Max Chan wrote:
>
> I wonder how Apple implemented their version though…
I will intentionally not discuss this further, and I have
intentionally not dug very deep. I don't want
hy not throw out AppKit and reimplement
the important parts on top of GTK3 or Qt (neither of which, I think, pulls
in an OpenGL dependency at this point).
>
> *发件人:* Ivan Vučica
> *发送时间:* 2019年11月28日 0:46
> *收件人:* Max Chan
> *抄送:* Discuss-gnustep Discuss
> *主题:* Re: SwiftUI c
On Wed 27 Nov 2019 at 16:31, Max Chan wrote:
> Well given how apps are being written now, a lot of code I have seen
> assumes the existence of CoreGraphics in AppKit, so it won't hurt if GI
> directly depends on Opal.
What about performance regressions on specialty low-performance hardware
used
On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 3:59 PM Max Chan wrote:
>
> Well if we are using OpenGL, since almost all other OpenGL related code is in
> CoreAnimation, and it is OpenGL that actually opens the window for us in a
> system agnostic manner, we might as well.
We are not using OpenGL and it has not been
inux world to copy Apple architecture.
> systemd is a clone of launchd and networkd, Wayland is modeled after
> windowserver, etc. We might as well play along.)
>
> -邮件原件-
> 发件人: Ivan Vučica
> 发送时间: 2019年11月27日 23:34
> 收件人: Max Chan
> 抄送: Discuss-gnustep Discuss
o/OpenGL.
>
>
>
> 发件人: Gregory Casamento
> 发送时间: 2019年11月27日 23:23
> 收件人: Chan Maxthon
> 抄送: Ivan Vučica ; Discuss-gnustep Discuss
>
> 主题: Re: SwiftUI compatibility APIs in GNUstep's graphics stack (Was: Which
> ObjC2.0 features are missing in the latest GCC?
m not familiar with how GUI and Back interacts, and I am confused at
> why GUI, Back, Opal et al are layered that way.
>
> -邮件原件-
> 发件人: Ivan Vučica
> 发送时间: 2019年11月27日 23:17
> 收件人: Max Chan
> 抄送: Discuss-gnustep Discuss
> 主题: Re: SwiftUI compatibility APIs in GNUst
On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 3:01 PM Max Chan wrote:
>
> Apple implemented SwiftUI as a wrapper on top of AppKit and UIKit for macOS
> and iOS respectively, however architecturally those three libraries are at
> the same level. This is why I am suggesting us doing the reverse, making our
> AppKit an
On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 3:32 AM Maxthon Chan wrote:
>
> When talking about SwiftUI, I mean having CAAppKitBridge/Opal/Back implement
> SwiftUI API as its interface to the upper layers.
I am getting increasingly confused here. Why would these particular
libraries implement the SwiftUI APIs?
Espe
On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 3:49 PM Maxthon Chan wrote:
>
> AppKit on CoreAnimation can be our first big piece of fully ARC code. I don’t
> think anything in AppKit would require special memory handling, so it should
> be able to be fully ARC'd. Just by enabling ARC and @properties we get a lot
> o
On Tue 26 Nov 2019 at 14:43, Pirmin Braun wrote:
>
> a modern Objective-C Ecosystem, comparable to iOS and XCode from Apple,
> the well known market leader, blah blah
>
> making it a perfect porting target for iOS applications to run on any
> cheap laptop with any Linux distribution
Correctly i
Look, I'm saying these things as someone that wants free software to
succeed, and I wish I could write more of it.
I also want GCC to be usable in the core.
However, not using a better runtime than GCC's and not using an
ARC-enabled compiler has costs for free software.
On Sun, Nov 24, 2019 at 1
On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 8:02 PM Yavor Doganov wrote:
> The answer is simple: because there's a
> lot to lose and nothing to gain.
As someone that does want to see GCC have continued support in
GNUstep's core libs, and as someone who has been happy in an ARC-free
world, and as someone that's very
On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 2:53 PM Andreas Fink wrote:
> In other words, going for clang doesnt mean ObjC 1.0 code wont run but it
> means a lot of ObjC2.0 code will start to run.
The discussion is not whether ObjC2.0-and-later-unnamed-variants code
will start to run (because it already runs), the
On Fri 22 Nov 2019 at 17:41, Fred Kiefer wrote:
> I really don’t see gcc support is itself holding us back. At least not
> more than the incomplete CoreFoundation, or the fact that base is not build
> on top of core base,
Or GUI on top of Core Graphics which would then have its backends... but
Sounds good, but how would they be kept in sync?
On Wed 20 Nov 2019 at 04:29, Gregory Casamento
wrote:
> Hey guys,
>
> I just realixed... there is a way to download the bugs from savannah.
> Additionally there is an API for interfacing with the bug system on
> github. The various ids (for grou
On Wed 20 Nov 2019 at 11:07, Andreas Fink wrote:
>
> Which platforms are we exactly talking about?
>
> Is clang not supporting all these additional platforms?
> is libobjc even supporting all these other platforms?
Clearly yes — but Debian packages also use the GCC runtime, or they did
last tim
On Wed 20 Nov 2019 at 08:00, Johannes Brakensiek
wrote:
> I understand
> you are doing this for compatibility with other processor platforms. But
> this leads to the problem that any app developer who wants to build a
> new app based upon the clang ABI has to build and ship everything on his
> o
On Wed 20 Nov 2019 at 00:48, cobjective wrote:
>
>
> My initial idea was to make my dream come true - have NeXTSTEP for my own
> use: fast, reliable and consistent.
> I would be glad if other people share my taste. If you like
> macOS/KDE/GNOME - why should you use GNUstep-based DE?
GNUstep is
On Tue, Nov 19, 2019, 12:20 Liam Proven wrote:
>
> IMHO one of the problems of Étoilé was that it violated the core FOSS
> principle of "release early, release often". GNUstep comes close to
> the same.
>
> Sticking some source code on a version control system somewhere is not
> releasing somethi
On Tue, Nov 19, 2019, 20:16 Derek Fawcus <
dfawcus+lists-gnustep-disc...@employees.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 02:02:34PM +0100, Johannes Brakensiek wrote:
> >
> > 1. Integrate apps on a short-term basis. (Updated) themes for Gtk, Qt,
> > keyboard shortcuts, support for drag ’n drop per
On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 5:26 PM Jordan Schidlowsky
wrote:
> Is this not the strongest argument to deprecate GCC, and just build on
Clang/LLVM? If feature parity with Apple's API is the goal, isn't this
kind of a requirement at this point?
>
> There's other rather large projects moving purely to a
IRC works well enough. Let's stick to IRC for realtime chat. I often
idle in #gnustep on freenode. Not too much dev activity or idling in
there.
Beyond that... some members of this community have experience using
XMPP, and I think most would be extremely unlikely to use voice calls
(good voice/vid
On Mon, Nov 18, 2019, 23:40 Sergii Stoian wrote:
> Plus themes support bloats the GNUstep codebase. I understand that the
> initial idea was to attract more users/developers, but… It’s not working.
>
Have you guessed why it's not working?
Users who would be attracted by a different theme are no
On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 11:16 AM Umberto Cerrato
wrote:
>
> Yeah…
>
> Just sayin’…
>
> Do you know how can GitHub achieve that?
Yes, I indeed do. By having "501 to 1000 employees":
https://www.glassdoor.ie/Overview/Working-at-GitHub-EI_IE671945.11,17.htm
who are working on developing the product
I’ll answer as if you are asking the question and not asking rhetorically.
Whoever hosts the project takes over the responsibility for:
- storing user credentials
- abuse management
- security and service upgrades
- data migration when moving from service A to service B
- possibly even GDPR and o
I checked the directory instead and there's files there:
https://github.com/plaurent/gnustep-build/tree/master/debian-10-clang-8.0
Looks like there's versioning on top of versioning in that repo?
On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 12:16 AM Svetlana Tkachenko
wrote:
> Hi Johannes
>
> > P.S.: This is the bui
>> Mailtrack
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>> 11/02/19,
>> 02:39:12 PM
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 2:37 PM Ivan Vučica wrote:
>>
>>> I don't mind thi
I don't mind this myself as I didn't look at Savannah tracker, but I
personally cannot find those words you quoted. They're not in my email
archive except in this particular thread.
So perhaps there was indeed no explained announcement of the change?
*shrug*
sent from phone
On Sat, Nov 2, 2019,
Not advocating for Savannah in one way or another, but as I remember it:
tl;dr GitHub move happened because of a series of events: GNA shutdown
pushed for git conversion, and GitHub being easy to go to. And despite the
opposition, not because we wanted to go there.
And a lot of subprojects electe
/gist.github.com/Letterus/01d913d85098c48d2183ed6de30abc40
>
> Maybe you are able to detect anything unregular? For me it looks a
> little bit weird that it's linked against libgcc, but other apps that
> are as well, are working for me.
>
> Johannes
>
>
> Am 07.10
as above, or ldding.)
On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 2:33 PM Ivan Vučica wrote:
> I usually try to see what files are getting accessed using things like:
>
> strace GWorkspace 2>&1 | grep open
>
> Usually because it's slightly more comprehensive than just seeing what the
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