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No, I did not know about it! I'll take a look, maybe some parts might
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Are you aware of the pbxbuild project? This allows you to use Xcode
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just put forth my opinions on how an "app repo" could be done, and why I
don't think just putting things on a wiki is the perfect solution. My
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> Am 08.01.2011 um 18:29 schrieb Ivan Vučica:
>
> it is just one click away to see it in operation:
>
> http://www.gnustep.org/softwareindex/
>
> It is following the guidelines, motivations and technical aspects you have
> described :)
>
> Adding new en
hich is not discussed here, and which is something I agree with
you on. (Mostly.)
> You meant "Using a wiki alone for everything"
>
This is how I understood you. My apologies if I did not understand you.
> I sure can tell you that everything can be done with a wiki but wh
stop to experience, like appending too many tags.
>
Oh, you're a cookie :-)
But seriously now, appending tags in the context of submitting applications
of App Store:
Some segments of even human-reviewed App Store are spammed with applications
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gnustep's distribution of these toolkits. Can you see gcc.exe and
make.exe in c:\gnustep\bin?
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>
> I am a complete
odeproj bundles as
"files" instead of directories.
What did I do wrong with the plist? What else do I have to do to make the
GNUstep workspace associate .xcodeproj with Zcode?
See the plist here:
https://bitbucket.org/ivucica/zcode/src/9d1d0e6cebe1/ZcodeIn
or "Tools" shows with
> what to open. Several applications can be listed with one default.
>
Thanks!
>
> Furthermore I may add that ProjectCenter's 0.6.0 file format is a Bundle,
> organized similarly to Xcode: a project specific file inside and a
> user-specific p
SX doesn't detect association:
A) until app is opened from finder (maybe copied!)
B) unless app is removed from finder
I would have to play when I get back to OS X, but either way, I don't
see a reason why it couldn't work that way.
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> However, I think it would be good if gnustep-make also ran it
> automatically when doing a make-install (perhaps it already does ... I
> haven't checked).
So, upon instantiation of NSWorkspace, the registration is automatica
By the way, in case someone is interested in fixing MacPorts rather than
publishing an alternative and updated way to compile on OS X, the link to
MacPorts bugtracker ticket is here:
http://trac.macports.org/ticket/28063
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>
> H
e to worry just about getting my
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> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 16:02, Richard Frith-Macdonald <
> rich...@tiptree.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> However, it's really not the case that the user has any 'burden' to do it
>> ... applications run it automatically (as soon as t
In future, should I send these announcements to a different list? Should I
create a separate mailing list just for Zcode? I think there isn't enough
interest at the moment, and the project is in too early stages, but if you guys
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xistence of a previously
unknown .app bundle. Why depend on having apps in "normal" locations? While
reasonable, and while GNUstep does not have to clone OS X behavior in every
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>
> in Zcode, I've implemented editors as subclasses of NSViewController. Their
> UI is loaded from nib by making use of initWithNibName:bundle: inherited
> from NSViewController. This works great on Cocoa, but porting
e popular commercial (or even just proprietary) Mac
software: Socialite, Reeder, Twitter for Mac. Do you really think
porting them would involve just writing GNUmakefiles?
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> Hi. I have one question a
orm,
are bound to become more popular, stuff like Bonjour.
Incompatibilities in underlying platforms are not solvable by using
bytecode, which any .Net-developer-turned-Mono-developer that used
PInvoke can attest to.
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On 25. sij. 2011., at 02:58, "Zhang
avoid having files with identical names.
Alternatively, consider building support/ library as a static library
and then linking it into the main shared library.
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I am new to GNUstep makefile build s
the enterprise environments;
one of the biggest retail chains in Croatia runs their POS machines on
Linux, and writing POS software is about as commercial as you can get. But
that software is not targeted for the private citizen, and is not sold
en-masse. And… I do believe the
ing that task to make_services would be a good idea,
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> involve the equivalent of three ls *.app commands in the common case, and a
> tiny bit more in cases where you've added one or two new apps recently.
Heh, I didn't think of it that - it could just add and parse newly added
apps, just like the old
ancient GNUstep present in Debian Testing (my
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On 26. sij. 2011., at 01:05, Banlu Kemiyatorn wrote:
- Original message -
> GTK did not become popular just because it's something people are
> comfortable working in; it be
On 26. sij. 2011., at 10:41, Banlu Kemiyatorn wrote:
- Original message -
(...)
..back off with disagreement
> Here is a non-rhetoric question, since I don't know the current
> situation: Does, and can, FSF invest its energy and resources into
> GNUstep?
FSF isnt intereted by making
ssing -
Iwhateverrelativeorfullpathyouneed. This argument can be added in
GNUmakefile in OBJC_FLAGS, if I remember correctly. Why is this
necessary? NSObject.h depends and includes additional headers which
are referred to using relative paths, and hence they are again
unfindable.
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gt; best way to find a market for GNUstep.
Agreed with most of the sentiment, except I'd argue that having GNUstep on
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@"Quit"
So:
while(![@"Quit" isEqualToString:word2])
or
while(![word2 isEqualToString:@"Quit"])
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You c
On 30. sij. 2011., at 18:44, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf > wrote:
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while(![@"Quit" isEqualToString:word2])
or
while(![word2 isEqualToString:@"Quit"])
Straying wildly off-topic
I just spotted one more mistake. scanf() should not get a pointer to
pointer -- that &word should be just word.
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Hi ,
i am trying to work with NSString object.The .m(source code) file is
attach
On 30. sij. 2011., at 23:29, David Chisnall wrote:
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That is awesome?
Just want to point out this was supposed to ve "This is awesome!" with
an exclamation mark ;-)
I mistyped this and it looks quite rude. Sorry!
Perhaps optimiz
addresses, not the contents.
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On 31. sij. 2011., at 10:03, Parag Deshpande > wrote:
Thank you .
There was little mistake in the attached code that you spotted i .e
while(word2!=Quit)
so sorry for that.
But still i am not getting that why it is not work
hould wrap stuff all into classes. Right?
(Of course, it's still good to know, in case one has to deal with C
libraries or interact with kernel API :-) )
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> > From what I saw, you commonly don't want to return structs in ObjC
> anyway. Rather one should wrap stuff all into classes. Right?
>
> See NSRange, NSPoint,
I have to find out, that I'm not able to compile the current
> gnustep-base with this new compiler, is there any plans to provid a
> release of gnustep which is supported on gcc-4.6.
>
Hi,
have you considered compiling with clang? What are the i
On 31. sij. 2011., at 21:00, Jochen Schmitt wrote:
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> Am 31.01.2011 20:47, schrieb Ivan Vučica:
>>
>> have you considered compiling with clang? What are the issues with
>> GCC 4.6?
>>
> What you mean with clang?
By clang I was referring to the clang com
ist warmed me up to it, hopefully
one of these years I'll be able to go :-))
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it would be nice if somebody could bring one of the following things
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someone were to help you, that person will need to know the version of
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If you refer to for(id x in y) syntax, I believe you just need to use
a compiler with objc2.0 support, as well as a sufficiently recent
runtime.
I think I haven't had problems with clang and Debian testing's GNUstep.
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>>
>> If you refer to for(id x in y) syntax, I believe you just need to use a
>> compiler with objc2.0 support, as well as a sufficiently recent runtime.
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> gnustep-make needs a bit of work before release too; trunk
> contains a migration to the unix filesystem layout as default
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Is that FHS?
http://www.pathname.com/fhs/
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> support to GNUstep, but only about a quarter of the people in the room at the
> time were GNUstep developers, so we couldn't do much meaningful discussion.
Getting UIKit into GNUstep would be awesome; if not the entirety of it, at
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On 16. vel. 2011., at 11:26, Richard Frith-Macdonald > wrote:
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CHECK(ZCPBXProjectReader_returns_error_message)
{
ZCPBXProjectReader *r = [[ZCPBXProjectReader alloc]
initWithFile:@"does_not_exist.pbxproj"];
(
synthesized. What harm
in using that?
Finally, let me restate that I do see what bothers you, and I do agree with
your stance a bit more. I do not, however, consider that we should call the
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> This is the fastest path to unmaintainable code that I have encountered. I
> can point to places in GNUstep and other projects where people have had the
> same philosophy. These people have subsequently moved on to other projects,
> and no
ak up the monotony so that you can pick out distinct objects
> visually.
#pragma mark -
#pragma mark something?
alternatively:
// MARK: -
// MARK: something?
I use that all the time to organize myself in Xcode. :-)
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version numbers aren't confusing. At least
> for me.
>
> Since it is libobjc2, I would expect some 2.x version numbers.
I concur :-)
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> On 5 Mar 2011, at 08:50, Ivan Vučica wrote:
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> It would be very good to have the testsuite run on OSX, but it will take
> some work.
>
> I frequently run individual test di
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ability of each user to load his
own bundles (or indeed to control the bundles being loaded) but on
the other hand, it makes it
reasonably safe and simple. :-)
Or you could limit domains only for setuid apps...? :-)
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making certain moves to get closer to OS X in some areas. In either case, I
don't think the criticism is valid, and I feel that GNUstep is making the
right moves.
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It's hard to list all *little* things when I don't use GNUstep daily, and
more so when I used Debian's build instead of the latest one. (And I also
feel like a whining brat.)
I wish I had a million bucks to be able to work on all the things I want to
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looks abandoned. I tried to set up a local MacPorts repository and update
the Portfile, but I'm confused by how Portfile specifies where to get
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ntu is much more explicit about this, since most users use a stable release.
On Debian, if you use it for a workstation, with availability of testing, you
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m not comfortable enough with either
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experience with relatively small packages, and Debian's strict policies with
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> The compiler is gcc version 4.2.1 20070719 on OpenBSD i386. After a bit
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> Anything I can do about this?
>
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>
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;t let me drop.
>
> As far as I can tell, none of the functions in my NSBox subclass are
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> Is this functionality just not supported in GNUStep/Windows or am I
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like to get this to work before moving on to upgrading all libraries to latest
releases.
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>
> I've successfully fixed gnustep-base on MacPorts. At least, it compiles and
> installs on my machine
versioning (which
Code::Blocks is also using successfully): labeling release by year and date.
For example, gnustep-base 11.06 or whatever the date might be sounds like a
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Here's a screenshot; SystemPreferences.app looks really lovely under OS X :)
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>
> after fixing gnustep-base (and making minor changes to gnustep-make to
class of NSWindowController, link File's Owner with an instance
of window, and implement stuff such as -
(void)windowControllerDidLoadNib:(NSWindowController *) aController.
>
> If you guys can point me to a tutorial which shows how to do the
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> > Problem is in the compiler. I think GCC 4.6 introduced Objective-C 2.0
> features. You can try using clang compiler, and you'd probably need to
> switch to libobjc2
as installed correctly because I could run
> gnustep-config in my Terminal, so I just ran "sudo port install gnustep-base"
> again and it worked the second time.
>
> Hopefully we can get these changes accepted into macports now :-)
>
> Cheers,
> Eric
>
>
&
file or
> directory "
>
>
It would be nice to say where you ran into the broken link, so someone can
fix it ;)
> can be "baack" the error?
>
Since this is FTP, directory listing is available:
ftp://ftp.gnustep.org/pub/gnustep/core/
So, the answer is Yes.
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On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 15:48, Andrea D'Amore wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 9:25 PM, Ivan Vučica wrote:
> > Hi!
>
> I've lately got interest in upgrading GNUstep packages in MP, but I
> had little time to proceed.
>
> Knowing little GNUstep I was mainl
On 14. tra. 2011., at 19:17, Andrea D'Amore wrote:
> 2011/4/14 Ivan Vučica :
>> I took the existing portfiles and adapted that; something wrong with that?
>> :-)
>
>> Hosting on SVN is also a good solution for me, since I have an SVN server
>> set up alrea
linux offers some
> driver advantages like hardware acceleration or so.
>
> So I made my quest and "adopted" Sabayon linux that is a Gentoo based
> with an additional layer for binary packages support.
A serious question:
What makes it more compelling than pulling o
> 2011/4/14 Ivan Vučica :
>> I took the existing portfiles and adapted that; something wrong with that?
>> :-)
>
>> Hosting on SVN is also a good solution for me, since I have an SVN server
>> set up already.
>
Extra info for those interested in what I'
rt() is a weird thing to fail on. Any ideas?
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ntime.h usability... no
checking objc/runtime.h presence... no
checking for objc/runtime.h... no
checking objc/objc.h usability... no
checking objc/objc.h presence... no
checking for objc/objc.h... no
Check to make sure you have a full installation of the GCC
compiler that includes the Objective-C he
I noticed I failed to mention which version I'm using. This is latest SVN of
the core module:
ivucica@theevilmacbook:~/Programs/gnustep/modules/core$ svn info | grep
Revision
Revision: 32865
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 12:56, Ivan Vučica wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I currently have GNUstep in
#ifndef __objc_INCLUDE_GNU, but since objc/objc.h is
included *after*
ObjectiveC2/runtime.h, __objc_INCLUDE_GNU is not #defined yet, and
the protection does
not work.
Thanks
I could submit a patch. Would just including objc/objc.h in
ObjectiveC2runtime.h be
Hi!
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 15:20, David Chisnall wrote:
> On 15 Apr 2011, at 14:14, Ivan Vučica wrote:
>
> > I could submit a patch. Would just including objc/objc.h in
> ObjectiveC2runtime.h be correct?
>
>
> No, absolutely not. runtime.h is designed to be inclu
s a matter of personal taste.
>
>
I'd go with stable, too, but this has 'worked once upon a time', so there's
greater possibility it can quickly work for a greater amount of people.
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