RE: [ACFUG Discuss] cfexecute, shared hosting, and security

2009-07-10 Thread Charlie Arehart
Clarke, in addition to the good stuff Shawn shared [and btw, Shawn, I'd enjoy seeing that code :-)], I'll note that at least as far as the point he made: > So the hoster is left with a hard choice: disable CFEXECUTE, CFOBJECT, > CreateObject(.NET), CreateObject(COM) and CreateObject(JAVA) or accep

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] cfexecute, shared hosting, and security

2009-07-10 Thread Derrick Peavy
S, I'd like to find out how insecure. Can you forward the code? _ Derrick Peavy derr...@derrickpeavy.com 404-786-5036 _ On Jul 10, 2009, at 1:43 PM, shawn gorrell wrote: Clarke, Welcome to the big leagues. I know that you might want to stay away fro

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion and MySQL

2009-07-10 Thread Dean H. Saxe
There are many suites you can use (Foundstone Enterprise, Nessus, etc.) and manual methods too. But unless your host agrees to it and you want to pay for it, you're left with whatever info they can give you about penetration testing they have had done in the past. -dhs -- Dean H. Saxe d..

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion and MySQL

2009-07-10 Thread Clarke Bishop
Sorry to ask a dumb question, but how, exactly would you "Test the system." Do you mean use some set of methods to try and break in, or is there some sort of standard test suite? Clarke -Original Message- From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Dean H. Saxe Sent: Fr

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion and MySQL

2009-07-10 Thread Dean H. Saxe
If you have security concerns, there is only one way to figure out if they are valid. Test the system. With permission, of course. Dean H. Saxe d...@fullfrontalnerdity.com "A true conservationist is a person who knows that the world is not given by his fathers, but borrowed from his childr

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion and MySQL

2009-07-10 Thread Clarke Bishop
I looked, but couldn't find the message you mentioned. Please resend it. I'm about to conclude that I just need to switch hosts due to security concerns, so that may fix the problem, too. Clarke -Original Message- From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Chi

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion and MySQL

2009-07-10 Thread Cameron Childress
Clarke- Did you see the message I forwarded to the list a few days ago regarding compression in the driver? Also - I'm not sure what the load profile of this website is, but the "performance hit" from turning maintain connections off is not usually visible till you are under relatively high load.

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion and MySQL

2009-07-10 Thread Clarke Bishop
Sorry if I wasn't clear about something. As you said, "Maintain connections across client requests" is the default. It's when you turn it off that the mySQL problem goes away with some server/driver configurations. If maintain connections is off, then CF has to recreate the connection for each quer

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] cfexecute, shared hosting, and security

2009-07-10 Thread shawn gorrell
Clarke, Welcome to the big leagues. I know that you might want to stay away from that stuff, but if you want to be an uber-developer, you really need to know that stuff inside and out. Network and server administrators are unlikely to learn CF config at any level of depth, so you need to be the

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion and MySQL

2009-07-10 Thread Wes Byrd
That's very odd considering I have several Windows 2003 servers all running CF8. These servers host about 200 different websites using CF8 that ALL connect to a separate dedicated MySQL server. Some of the sites connect to a MySQL 4.x service and others MySQL 5.x. All of these sites connect via

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion and MySQL

2009-07-10 Thread Clarke Bishop
I still haven't been able to get the host to resolve this problem, and I've decided to just abandon MySQL for SQL Server. The database is simple and I can make the change quickly. To wrap this up, based on what I've learned and what my web research shows: . The problem exists only f

[ACFUG Discuss] cfexecute, shared hosting, and security

2009-07-10 Thread Clarke Bishop
I realize that all developers have a role in application security (cfqueryparam, etc.). So, there definitely are things I have to pay attention to in building an application. But for server-level administration and security issues, I would personally like to stay away as much as I can! While debu