[ACFUG Discuss] Clustering ColdFusion Servers

2011-04-14 Thread Szwedo . Ed
We looked into clustering for failover a few years back and actually got it working. However, setting it up was very complicated and all the knowledge was in the head of one admin - not a comfortable situation. Is anyoine clusterning ColdFusion, with or without session failover? ed

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Clustering ColdFusion Servers

2011-04-14 Thread Cameron Childress
Yes, I'm done several clustered configs. It can seem complicated but it's not that bad once you know where to go. What are your questions? -Cameron On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 8:09 AM, szwedo...@epamail.epa.gov wrote: We looked into clustering for failover a few years back and actually got it

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Clustering ColdFusion Servers

2011-04-14 Thread Szwedo . Ed
Don't know yet. I'm going to a meeting today to discuss clustering. In your experience, does it work well? Any caveats? Are you doing session failover? We have 46 applications. All except one connect to Oracle. The one exception uses Microsoft Access. It can seem complicated but it's not

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Clustering ColdFusion Servers

2011-04-14 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:01 AM, szwedo...@epamail.epa.gov wrote: Don't know yet.  I'm going to a meeting today to discuss clustering. In your experience, does it work well?  Any caveats?  Are you doing session failover? Well, a couple of caveats to any of my opinions: 1) I've mainly setup

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Clustering ColdFusion Servers

2011-04-14 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:01 AM, szwedo...@epamail.epa.gov wrote: Don't know yet.  I'm going to a meeting today to discuss clustering. In your experience, does it work well?  Any caveats?  Are you doing session failover? Lastly, and I wanted to send this in a different email... If your

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Clustering ColdFusion Servers

2011-04-14 Thread Szwedo . Ed
Wow. Great info. I had Mike Brunt's site up when your email arrived. I have more reading to do but this info is invaluable. Thanks again. ed __ Ed Szwedo Web Development Team Lead ECS Team - ITS-EPA II Contractor 109 TW

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Clustering ColdFusion Servers

2011-04-14 Thread Steven
I would second Cameron's vote for hardware LB with standard CF instances. We did this at my last company and it did indeed work well. -Steve On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:01 AM, szwedo...@epamail.epa.gov wrote: Don't

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Clustering ColdFusion Servers

2011-04-14 Thread Szwedo . Ed
It's all coming back to me now! I remember looking into load balancers a few years ago. If your application can support it, ... There are many application considerations when you do this so typically it requires the CF app to be built specifically in a way that supports it. I know nothing about

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Clustering ColdFusion Servers

2011-04-14 Thread Szwedo . Ed
What did you use for the LB? How expensive is it? How much did you have to modify your apps to take advantage of it? ed __ Ed Szwedo Web Development Team Lead ECS Team - ITS-EPA II Contractor 109 TW Alexander Drive, Building

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Clustering ColdFusion Servers

2011-04-14 Thread Ajas Mohammed
Great information Cameron. I dont mean to digress but is it possible that lets say 2 CF servers are load balanced and server 1 is processing 25 requests, can the load balancer be smart to send next incoming requests to server 2 instead of busy server 1? Do Load balancers have some kind of setting

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Clustering ColdFusion Servers

2011-04-14 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:04 AM, szwedo...@epamail.epa.gov wrote: I know nothing about LBs nor about any special development techniques to leverage them.  Also, it would not be practical or economical to re-visit all our apps to make sure they conform to the restrictions of a LB. Really,

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Clustering ColdFusion Servers

2011-04-14 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Ajas Mohammed ajash...@gmail.com wrote: Great information Cameron. I dont mean to digress but is it possible that lets say 2 CF servers are load balanced and server 1 is processing 25 requests, can the load balancer be smart to send next incoming requests to

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Clustering ColdFusion Servers

2011-04-14 Thread Szwedo . Ed
Really, the biggest thing to worry about is to make sure that stuff in the Application scope is synched. Our apps are all Mach-II. What impact does this fact have on a decision to cluster or use a LB? ed __ Ed Szwedo Web

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Clustering ColdFusion Servers

2011-04-14 Thread Steven
Well in our case, we had very expensive F5 LBs -- but there are alternatives like barracuda's: http://www.barracudanetworks.com/ns/products/balancer_overview.php http://www.barracudanetworks.com/ns/products/balancer_overview.phpNow I haven't experienced barracuda's but I hear they've come a long

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Clustering ColdFusion Servers

2011-04-14 Thread Steven
Ed no impact on the Mach-II side.. we were Mach-II as well at my last job. -Steve On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:26 AM, szwedo...@epamail.epa.gov wrote: Really, the biggest thing to worry about is to make sure that stuff in the Application scope is synched. Our apps are all Mach-II. What

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Clustering ColdFusion Servers

2011-04-14 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Steven steve...@gmail.com wrote: Ed no impact on the Mach-II side.. we were Mach-II as well at my last job. Agreed. I thought of a few more things... Scheduled tasks - if you have any, which node should they run on or should you split some on one and some on

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Clustering ColdFusion Servers

2011-04-14 Thread Szwedo . Ed
Yes we have scheduled tasks. I like the idea of a dedicated instance for these. Caches - Not a problem IP/URLs - Nothing accesses URLs by IP Direct URLs - How is this done? ed __ Ed Szwedo Web Development Team Lead ECS Team

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Clustering ColdFusion Servers

2011-04-14 Thread Charlie Arehart
Thanks for the shout out, Cameron. But no, I don't have any resources on CF411 related to clustering. Technically, it's a list of tools and resources, and even among the resources I don't really break them down into subjects within CF itself like that (but perhaps I could). This would be an area I

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] QoQ Variable Disappearance

2011-04-14 Thread Charlie Arehart
Is it a query that's gone? Or a column within it perhaps? Worth double checking. There is an isquery function, for instance. As for the datatype issue, I seem to recall there being a feature to indicate the datatype, which was bolstered in CF 8 or 9. Anyone recall the details, and whether it may

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] QoQ Variable Disappearance

2011-04-14 Thread Matthew Nicholson
Thank you for the direction Charlie! I actually dug deep into the developer's guide last night and this morning. With that in hand, I felt more confident that my research pointed directly to data issue being the culprit and that I wasn't running into some esoteric limitation I wasn't aware of.

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] QoQ Variable Disappearance

2011-04-14 Thread Frank Moorman
All, I am not sure about changes in CF 8 or 9 on this issue, but I remember CF7 had issues retaining datatypes. Essentially using CAST() helps this problem. More info here: http://www.bennadel.com/blog/379-ColdFusion-Query-of-Queries-Unexpected-Data-Type-Conversion.htm On 04/14/2011 02:10 PM,