Re: [Distutils] PEP 470 - Using Multi Index Support for External to PyPI Package File Hosting

2014-05-14 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 15 May 2014 01:07, "Donald Stufft" wrote: > > I’ve just published a draft of PEP 470 - Using Multi Index Support for External to PyPI Package File Hosting > > You can see this online at http://legacy.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0470/ or read below > For the record: I reviewed Donald's initial draf

Re: [Distutils] Need for respect

2014-05-14 Thread Donald Stufft
On May 14, 2014, at 5:33 PM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > On 14.05.2014 22:56, Donald Stufft wrote: >> On my phone so I can't respond to everything here but I just want to say I >> don't think a discussion where we can't challenge each other's conclusions >> isn't going to go anywhere. Hopefully we

Re: [Distutils] Need for respect

2014-05-14 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
On 14.05.2014 22:56, Donald Stufft wrote: > On my phone so I can't respond to everything here but I just want to say I > don't think a discussion where we can't challenge each other's conclusions > isn't going to go anywhere. Hopefully we are adults and can handle > disagreement. There's nothi

Re: [Distutils] Need for respect (was: PEP 438, pip and --allow-external)

2014-05-14 Thread Donald Stufft
On my phone so I can't respond to everything here but I just want to say I don't think a discussion where we can't challenge each other's conclusions isn't going to go anywhere. Hopefully we are adults and can handle disagreement. > On May 14, 2014, at 4:26 PM, "M.-A. Lemburg" wrote: > > Noa

Re: [Distutils] Need for respect (was: PEP 438, pip and --allow-external)

2014-05-14 Thread Noah Kantrowitz
On May 14, 2014, at 1:26 PM, "M.-A. Lemburg" wrote: > On 14.05.2014 21:48, Noah Kantrowitz wrote: >> >> On May 14, 2014, at 12:44 PM, "M.-A. Lemburg" wrote: >> >>> PyPI is still mainly the Python registry for mapping package >>> names to URLs and descriptions. >> >> Sorry, going to have to s

Re: [Distutils] Need for respect (was: PEP 438, pip and --allow-external)

2014-05-14 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
On 14.05.2014 21:48, Noah Kantrowitz wrote: > > On May 14, 2014, at 12:44 PM, "M.-A. Lemburg" wrote: > >> PyPI is still mainly the Python registry for mapping package >> names to URLs and descriptions. > > Sorry, going to have to stop you here. This, and all your conclusions based > on this as

Re: [Distutils] Need for respect (was: PEP 438, pip and --allow-external)

2014-05-14 Thread Noah Kantrowitz
On May 14, 2014, at 12:44 PM, "M.-A. Lemburg" wrote: > PyPI is still mainly the Python registry for mapping package > names to URLs and descriptions. Sorry, going to have to stop you here. This, and all your conclusions based on this assumption, are flat out incorrect. You are far far far in t

Re: [Distutils] Need for respect (was: PEP 438, pip and --allow-external)

2014-05-14 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
On 13.05.2014 13:46, Donald Stufft wrote: > > On May 13, 2014, at 7:16 AM, Stefan Krah wrote: > >> FreeBSD ports have been using the download-from-many-but-verify strategy >> for a long time. I don't see why users should find this surprising. > > The difference is in expectations which is a fu

Re: [Distutils] PyPI down again

2014-05-14 Thread Donald Stufft
I'll take a look at this. We might need to increase the number of allowed failures on the health checks. > On May 14, 2014, at 1:51 PM, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > >> On 14 May 2014, at 19:49, Paul Moore wrote: >> >>> On 14 May 2014 18:37, Wichert Akkerman wrote: >>> PyPI is down again for me

Re: [Distutils] PyPI down again

2014-05-14 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 14 May 2014, at 19:49, Paul Moore wrote: > On 14 May 2014 18:37, Wichert Akkerman wrote: >> PyPI is down again for me (from .nl): when I go to >> https://pypi.python.org/pypi I am greeted with a "You've reached the static >> mirror of https://pypi.python.org” message. http://status.python.org

Re: [Distutils] PyPI down again

2014-05-14 Thread Paul Moore
On 14 May 2014 18:37, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > PyPI is down again for me (from .nl): when I go to > https://pypi.python.org/pypi I am greeted with a "You've reached the static > mirror of https://pypi.python.org” message. http://status.python.org/ does > not show any problems though. Works for m

[Distutils] PyPI down again

2014-05-14 Thread Wichert Akkerman
PyPI is down again for me (from .nl): when I go to https://pypi.python.org/pypi I am greeted with a "You've reached the static mirror of https://pypi.python.org” message. http://status.python.org/ does not show any problems though. Wichert. ___ Distu

[Distutils] PEP 470 - Using Multi Index Support for External to PyPI Package File Hosting

2014-05-14 Thread Donald Stufft
I’ve just published a draft of PEP 470 - Using Multi Index Support for External to PyPI Package File Hosting You can see this online at http://legacy.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0470/ or read below --- PEP: 470 Title: Usin