Re: [Distutils] Proposed new Distutils API for compiler flag detection (Issue26689)

2016-08-24 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 6:50 PM, Thomas Kluyver wrote: > On Mon, Aug 22, 2016, at 07:15 AM, Sylvain Corlay wrote: > > I find this worrying that the main arguments to not include a patch would > be that > > - this part of the standard library is not very maintained (things don't > get merged) >

Re: [Distutils] PEP 527 - Removing Un(der)used file types/extensions on PyPI

2016-08-24 Thread Donald Stufft
Ok, I’ve updated the PEP. You can see a diff at https://github.com/python/peps/pull/74/files or the entire PEP at https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0527/ once that updated. However the primary differences are: * Added Nick Coghlan as the BDFL Delegate (Thanks Nick!). * Expanded upon rationale

Re: [Distutils] What role to eggs still play?

2016-08-24 Thread Daniel Holth
On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:28 PM Leonardo Rochael Almeida < leoroch...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 24 August 2016 at 12:56, Daniel Holth wrote: > >> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 10:41 AM Alex Grönholm >> wrote: >> > [...] >>> >> >> 19.08.2016, 20:25, Daniel Holth kirjoitti: >> >> Eggs are the only way to a

Re: [Distutils] What role to eggs still play?

2016-08-24 Thread Leonardo Rochael Almeida
On 24 August 2016 at 12:56, Daniel Holth wrote: > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 10:41 AM Alex Grönholm > wrote: > >> [...] >> > > 19.08.2016, 20:25, Daniel Holth kirjoitti: > > Eggs are the only way to add a zipped distribution to PYTHONPATH and have > setuptools find the metadata (the Python code can

Re: [Distutils] PEP 527 - Removing Un(der)used file types/extensions on PyPI

2016-08-24 Thread Anna Ravenscroft
On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 12:06 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On 24 August 2016 at 02:46, Donald Stufft wrote: > > Abstract > > > > > > This PEP recommends deprecating, and ultimately removing, support for > uploading > > certain unused or under used file types and extensions to PyPI. In > pa

Re: [Distutils] PEP 527 - Removing Un(der)used file types/extensions on PyPI

2016-08-24 Thread Philippe Ombredanne
On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 10:08 PM, Glyph Lefkowitz wrote: > In particular, bdist_wininst and bdist_msi (which Twisted supported for a > long time, and still builds, so it's not like I don't understand their > benefits and history!) are incompatible with virtualenvs, and make > development under Win

Re: [Distutils] What role to eggs still play?

2016-08-24 Thread Daniel Holth
On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 10:41 AM Alex Grönholm wrote: > 20.08.2016, 01:41, Chris Barker - NOAA Federal kirjoitti: > > Thanks, I think I'm getting it. > > About the toml file... the *-info metadata is a compiled artifact, > according to all the existing Python packages. Most sdists even have a > *

Re: [Distutils] What role to eggs still play?

2016-08-24 Thread Alex Grönholm
20.08.2016, 01:41, Chris Barker - NOAA Federal kirjoitti: Thanks, I think I'm getting it. About the toml file... the *-info metadata is a compiled artifact, according to all the existing Python packages. Most sdists even have a *.egg-info directory. If it's a compiled artifact, then shouldn'

Re: [Distutils] What role to eggs still play?

2016-08-24 Thread Alex Grönholm
19.08.2016, 20:25, Daniel Holth kirjoitti: Eggs are the only way to add a zipped distribution to PYTHONPATH and have setuptools find the metadata (the Python code can be found with or without the metadata; setuptools does not discover *.dist-info inside zip). Eggs are used by buildout, especial

Re: [Distutils] PEP 527 - Removing Un(der)used file types/extensions on PyPI

2016-08-24 Thread Reinout van Rees
Op 24-08-16 om 09:06 schreef Nick Coghlan: I think in this case, campaigning to remove ".zip" support will prove to be a false economy, as anything you'd gain from simplifying the toolchain implementation you'll lose arguing with folks that would prefer for .zip to be the default instead of .tar.

Re: [Distutils] Proposed new Distutils API for compiler flag detection (Issue26689)

2016-08-24 Thread Sylvain Corlay
Hi, Any feedback on this? Sylvain On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Sylvain Corlay wrote: > I think that Thomas' proposal makes sense. > > I would be ok to also add it to setuptools so that it can be used sooner > by projects that don't require python 3.6. > > ___

Re: [Distutils] PEP 527 - Removing Un(der)used file types/extensions on PyPI

2016-08-24 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 24 August 2016 at 02:46, Donald Stufft wrote: > Abstract > > > This PEP recommends deprecating, and ultimately removing, support for > uploading > certain unused or under used file types and extensions to PyPI. In particular > it recommends disallowing further uploads of any files of