Re: [Distutils] pip/warehouse feature idea: help needed

2015-04-16 Thread Wes Turner
On Apr 14, 2015 7:15 PM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote: On 14 April 2015 at 11:19, Trishank Karthik Kuppusamy trish...@nyu.edu wrote: On 14 April 2015 at 11:16, Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote: I agree. Even something as simple as a boolean that triggers a banner saying this

Re: [Distutils] pip/warehouse feature idea: help needed

2015-04-16 Thread Brett Cannon
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 8:34 PM Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au wrote: Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com writes: Yep, Guido's keynote was the genesis of the thread. I can't find it online, can you give a URL so we can see the talk? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-uKNd5TSBw Past

Re: [Distutils] pip/warehouse feature idea: help needed

2015-04-16 Thread Wes Turner
On Apr 14, 2015 7:15 PM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote: [...] The perception that open source software is provided by magic internet pixies that don't need to eat (or at the very least to be thanked for the time their generosity has saved us)

Re: [Distutils] pip/warehouse feature idea: help needed

2015-04-16 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 16 April 2015 at 17:42, Wes Turner wes.tur...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 14, 2015 7:15 PM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote: [...] The perception that open source software is provided by magic internet pixies that don't need to eat (or at the very least to be thanked for the time

Re: [Distutils] pip/warehouse feature idea: help needed

2015-04-14 Thread Brett Cannon
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 10:13 PM Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io wrote: On Apr 13, 2015, at 8:57 PM, Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au wrote: Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com writes: On 11 Apr 2015 12:22, Alexander Walters tritium-l...@sdamon.com wrote: Is the package index

Re: [Distutils] pip/warehouse feature idea: help needed

2015-04-14 Thread Trishank Karthik Kuppusamy
On 14 April 2015 at 11:16, Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote: I agree. Even something as simple as a boolean that triggers a banner saying this project is looking for a new maintainer would be useful both from the perspective of project owners who want to move on or from the perspective of

Re: [Distutils] pip/warehouse feature idea: help needed

2015-04-14 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 14 April 2015 at 11:19, Trishank Karthik Kuppusamy trish...@nyu.edu wrote: On 14 April 2015 at 11:16, Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote: I agree. Even something as simple as a boolean that triggers a banner saying this project is looking for a new maintainer would be useful both from the

Re: [Distutils] pip/warehouse feature idea: help needed

2015-04-14 Thread Ben Finney
Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com writes: Yep, Guido's keynote was the genesis of the thread. I can't find it online, can you give a URL so we can see the talk? Past suggestions for social features have related to providing users with a standard way to reach maintainers and each other, and I'd

Re: [Distutils] pip/warehouse feature idea: help needed

2015-04-14 Thread Ben Finney
Trishank Karthik Kuppusamy trish...@nyu.edu writes: Yeah, I think Guido said something to this effect in his keynote. Apparently I'm missing that context, then. The original post didn't help me understand why this proposal is significantly different from past “add a bunch of social to PyPI”

Re: [Distutils] pip/warehouse feature idea: help needed

2015-04-14 Thread Donald Stufft
On Apr 14, 2015, at 6:46 PM, Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au wrote: Trishank Karthik Kuppusamy trish...@nyu.edu writes: Yeah, I think Guido said something to this effect in his keynote. Apparently I'm missing that context, then. The original post didn't help me understand why

Re: [Distutils] pip/warehouse feature idea: help needed

2015-04-13 Thread Ben Finney
Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com writes: On 11 Apr 2015 12:22, Alexander Walters tritium-l...@sdamon.com wrote: Is the package index really the best place to put this? This is a very social-networking feature for the authoritative repository of just about all the third party module, and it

Re: [Distutils] pip/warehouse feature idea: help needed

2015-04-13 Thread Donald Stufft
On Apr 13, 2015, at 8:57 PM, Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au wrote: Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com writes: On 11 Apr 2015 12:22, Alexander Walters tritium-l...@sdamon.com wrote: Is the package index really the best place to put this? This is a very social-networking feature for

Re: [Distutils] pip/warehouse feature idea: help needed

2015-04-13 Thread Olivier Grisel
+1 overall to Nick' suggestions. -- Olivier ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

Re: [Distutils] pip/warehouse feature idea: help needed

2015-04-12 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 11 Apr 2015 12:22, Alexander Walters tritium-l...@sdamon.com wrote: Is the package index really the best place to put this? This is a very social-networking feature for the authoritative repository of just about all the third party module, and it feels like either it could corrupt the

Re: [Distutils] pip/warehouse feature idea: help needed

2015-04-12 Thread Alexander Walters
On 4/12/2015 21:08, Nick Coghlan wrote: Hence the idea of making the feature accessible through the command line clients, not just the web service. For the love of... Can we get packaging fixed before we start jamming crap onto the tools? Enough already. No. Just No. Never. Stop.

Re: [Distutils] pip/warehouse feature idea: help needed

2015-04-11 Thread Wes Turner
On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Marc Abramowitz msabr...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting. One of the things that would help with getting people to help and is in the PEPs but last I checked wasn't yet implemented is the metadata that allows putting in all kinds of URLs and the ones I'm

Re: [Distutils] pip/warehouse feature idea: help needed

2015-04-11 Thread Wes Turner
On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Wes Turner wes.tur...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Marc Abramowitz msabr...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting. One of the things that would help with getting people to help and is in the PEPs but last I checked wasn't yet implemented is the

[Distutils] pip/warehouse feature idea: help needed

2015-04-11 Thread Nick Coghlan
Guido mentioned in his PyCon keynote this morning that we don't currently have a great way for package authors to ask for help from their user base. It occurred to me that it could be useful to have a Help needed feature on PyPI (after the Warehouse migration) where package maintainers could

Re: [Distutils] pip/warehouse feature idea: help needed

2015-04-11 Thread Alexander Walters
Is the package index really the best place to put this? This is a very social-networking feature for the authoritative repository of just about all the third party module, and it feels like either it could corrupt the 'sanctity' of the repository (in the absolute worst case), or simply be

Re: [Distutils] pip/warehouse feature idea: help needed

2015-04-11 Thread Wes Turner
On Apr 11, 2015 9:46 AM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote: Guido mentioned in his PyCon keynote this morning that we don't currently have a great way for package authors to ask for help from their user base. It occurred to me that it could be useful to have a Help needed feature on PyPI

Re: [Distutils] pip/warehouse feature idea: help needed

2015-04-11 Thread Marc Abramowitz
Interesting. One of the things that would help with getting people to help and is in the PEPs but last I checked wasn't yet implemented is the metadata that allows putting in all kinds of URLs and the ones I'm primarily thinking of here are the source code repository URL and the issue tracker

Re: [Distutils] pip/warehouse feature idea: help needed

2015-04-11 Thread Wes Turner
On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Alexander Walters tritium-l...@sdamon.com wrote: Is the package index really the best place to put this? This is a very social-networking feature for the authoritative repository of just about all the third party module, and it feels like either it could