Eric wrote:
> Well, you can teach someone to fish without telling them to "get an
> f'n fishing pole".
>
>
"Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach him how to fish and
for the rest of his life he will bore you with stories about the one
that got away".
regards
Steve
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Let him be as rude as he wants, as long as he is there.
Lets stop this idea before it grows legs. One of the strengths of
Django is the community, and one of the reasons the community is
strong is because it is
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 12:55 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> actually this debate belongs on django-users (which is why I put in
> my 2 paise) - I think if taken there we can get a real measure of the
> pros of his help against the cons of his curtness at times (I
> wouldn't
On 01-Jul-08, at 10:04 PM, Tom Tobin wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 4:25 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> why should he be more polite? He follows the policy of 'teaching to
>> fish' rather than spoonfeeding. I have several times got flamed by
>> him for getting
I'll agree Magus is harsh, but he's also helpful, and this isn't the
place to discuss this :)
On Jul 1, 11:40 am, "Rajeev J Sebastian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> +1 to Tom, though magus
>
> On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 7:34 PM, Tom Tobin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 4:25 AM,
+1 to Tom, though magus
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 7:34 PM, Tom Tobin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 4:25 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> why should he be more polite? He follows the policy of 'teaching to
>> fish' rather than spoonfeeding. I have several
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 4:25 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> why should he be more polite? He follows the policy of 'teaching to
> fish' rather than spoonfeeding. I have several times got flamed by
> him for getting impatient and giving the answer. I would say that he
> is the
On 26-Jun-08, at 7:51 PM, Jeremy Dunck wrote:
>> Then, I tried helping people the way he does for a mere fraction of
>> the time he does. Answering the same 5 questions 20 times a day
>> (ok, I
>> did it maybe twice) would drive anyone insane.
>
> +1
+1
>
> Yes, it'd be nice if Magus were a
On Jun 25, 11:48 pm, "Jacob Kaplan-Moss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Two things:
>
>
> I don't know the background of whether Tom tried these things or not.
> Again, I don't care to ague about it. Let's not make this happen again
> in the future, OK?
>
> Please, folks, we're all friends here.
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On Jun 25, 2008, at 23:47, James Bennett wrote:
> 3. As someone who hangs out in the channel pretty much 24/7 I can
> vouch for him being helpful. An instructive example is to run "grep
> thanks #django.log | grep -c Magus", and then compare to
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Alex Ezell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'd like to offer one more perspective. Magus- (Collin) was one of the
> first folks to help me in the IRC channel. And, initially, I did think
> to myself "well, that's a little smug."
>
> Then, I tried helping people the
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 4:48 PM, Jacob Kaplan-Moss
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Calling someone else out publically is a move of last resort, and one
> that should be avoided at all costs.
::sigh:: I'm sorry; after this and another spat on the ChiPy list, I
think I'm not very good at the whole
I'd like to offer one more perspective. Magus- (Collin) was one of the
first folks to help me in the IRC channel. And, initially, I did think
to myself "well, that's a little smug."
Then, I tried helping people the way he does for a mere fraction of
the time he does. Answering the same 5
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Tom Tobin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Specifically, I'd like you to note interactions with user "Magus-"
> (with trailing dash).
Four points:
1. His name is Collin.
2. He's one of the channel ops.
3. As someone who hangs out in the channel pretty much 24/7 I
"Has to go". Heh. While I certainly agree he doesn't exactly come
across as nice, I wouldn't call him abusive. He's terse and a bit
impatient but generally friendly.
He's an Op and I've never seen him ban people senselessly. I log in on
weekends and often see him in the room walking people
Ha, Magus is great. He's helped so many people, it's mind boggling.
Rather than ban him, I'd say he should get donations.
The problem on every IRC channel or email list is that often people
don't actually listen to the advice given to them, or read the
documentation pointed out to them. Magus
It's too bad you had a negative experience with someone in the IRC channel.
However, aside from how abrasive he can be from time to time, he's usually
the only one to answer questions in there. I'd guess he does a majority of
the help in there (no offense to the others that do a good deal of
I don't spend much time in #django on Freenode, but for a moment, I'd
like you to check the logs of that channel.
http://oebfare.com/logger/django/
Specifically, I'd like you to note interactions with user "Magus-"
(with trailing dash).
I think we have a representation problem on our hands.
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