Re: Great Wall of DEP

2014-05-11 Thread Jorge C . Leitão
In my opinion, it may be too soon to make an evaluation of DEP. Most importantly, it has to be put in context to what happened/is happening: - there was a security release - there was a fix to the security release - there is a version of Django to be released with *considerable* new features, that

Re: Great Wall of DEP

2014-05-09 Thread Trey Hunner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/29/2014 08:58 PM, Michael Manfre wrote: > From DEP 001: > > "Once you've written a DEP and submitted the pull request, post a > message about it to the django-developers mailing list. At that point, > Django developers will make sure it's techni

Re: Great Wall of DEP

2014-05-09 Thread Trey Hunner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Adding my two cents below regarding DEPs. On 05/08/2014 05:49 AM, Łukasz Rekucki wrote: > Discussing DEPs on Github inside Pull Request comments seems like a > really bad idea, because it excludes a whole bunch of people that are > subscribed to this

Re: Great Wall of DEP

2014-05-09 Thread Michael Manfre
Hi Jannis, On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 3:11 AM, Jannis Leidel wrote: > Michael, > > First, I would appreciate if you'd give feedback in a less passive > aggressive style. I hope it's just a matter of language barrier but your > mail came over as far too demanding for just a "curious" question. > I

Re: Great Wall of DEP

2014-05-09 Thread Jannis Leidel
Aymeric, On 08.05.14 19:23, Aymeric Augustin wrote: > On 8 mai 2014, at 16:26, Michael Manfre wrote: > >> It's been almost a month and the next step in the process for the first two >> DEPs is to merge the PRs and assign numbers to make them "active". The >> discussion for each of them can tak

Re: Great Wall of DEP

2014-05-09 Thread Jannis Leidel
Michael, First, I would appreciate if you'd give feedback in a less passive aggressive style. I hope it's just a matter of language barrier but your mail came over as far too demanding for just a "curious" question. As far as I can see there has been activity in the pull requests (including from

Re: Great Wall of DEP

2014-05-08 Thread Aymeric Augustin
On 8 mai 2014, at 16:26, Michael Manfre wrote: > It's been almost a month and the next step in the process for the first two > DEPs is to merge the PRs and assign numbers to make them "active". The > discussion for each of them can take place over the coming months. I hate to > sound so cynica

Re: Great Wall of DEP

2014-05-08 Thread Thomas Leo
Their is some value in commenting directly on a pull-request, for example you can comment on specific lines of code, and the interface is very friendly. With that being said, having a link to related google group pages (or another mail-archive site) in the pull-request message would be a great

Re: Great Wall of DEP

2014-05-08 Thread Michael Manfre
It's been almost a month and the next step in the process for the first two DEPs is to merge the PRs and assign numbers to make them "active". The discussion for each of them can take place over the coming months. I hate to sound so cynical, but if none of the 30+ current core developers are able t

Re: Great Wall of DEP

2014-05-08 Thread Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]
I have to agree that the decentralized nature of the mailing list would probably stand the test of time a bit better, plus the ability to in-line reply makes larger discussions easier on the eyes. In reference to OPs original comments; Enhancement proposals are a great idea, but ultimately they wi

Re: Great Wall of DEP

2014-05-08 Thread Łukasz Rekucki
Hi folks, Discussing DEPs on Github inside Pull Request comments seems like a really bad idea, because it excludes a whole bunch of people that are subscribed to this list (I always thought this was the sole purpose of this list). The best thing about PEPs is that they always get posted to python

Re: Great Wall of DEP

2014-05-08 Thread Florian Apolloner
Hi, On Thursday, May 8, 2014 2:13:52 PM UTC+2, Carl wrote: > > Just noticed this message, and the DEP PRs are still open a week later. > Can someone shuffle this along, please? > We are in the final stages of 1.7, I personally would rather focus on that first. -- You received this message

Re: Great Wall of DEP

2014-05-08 Thread Carl van Tonder
Hi all, > If no-one else has looked at and commented on those two DEPs within > the next day or two, I will have time to do so, and will do so (and > feel free to poke me if I haven't). Just noticed this message, and the DEP PRs are still open a week later. Can someone shuffle this along, please

Re: Great Wall of DEP

2014-04-29 Thread James Bennett
It's worth noting that during that two-week time period the core team has been a bit preoccupied with doing a security release and followup bugfix release :) If no-one else has looked at and commented on those two DEPs within the next day or two, I will have time to do so, and will do so (and feel

Great Wall of DEP

2014-04-29 Thread Michael Manfre
>From DEP 001: "Once you've written a DEP and submitted the pull request, post a message about it to the django-developers mailing list. At that point, Django developers will make sure it's technically feasible, not spam, etc., assign it a DEP number and commit it to the repository as "Active." Th