Re: Master/slave trolling pull request accepted to django master branch

2014-08-14 Thread Juan Pablo Martínez
Master/Slave +0 The discusion of this terminology is only for trollers and non technical professionals. On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Tim Graham wrote: > This topic is closed and no replies will be tolerated. There are plenty of > Trac tickets that could use attention. Thank-you! > > > On T

Re: Master/slave trolling pull request accepted to django master branch

2014-08-14 Thread Cal Leeming [iops.io]
Ah yes, such a brilliant way to engage legitimate concerns from community. *slow caps* I'm out, it's been a fun 5 years guys, take care. Cal On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 7:18 PM, Tim Graham wrote: > This topic is closed and no replies will be tolerated. There are plenty of > Trac tickets that coul

Re: Master/slave trolling pull request accepted to django master branch

2014-08-14 Thread Tim Graham
This topic is closed and no replies will be tolerated. There are plenty of Trac tickets that could use attention. Thank-you! On Thursday, August 14, 2014 12:56:01 PM UTC-4, Andre Terra wrote: > > That is one great suggestion. +1 and as long as nobody -1s it, we're good > to go! > On Aug 12, 2014

Re: Master/slave trolling pull request accepted to django master branch

2014-08-14 Thread Andre Terra
That is one great suggestion. +1 and as long as nobody -1s it, we're good to go! On Aug 12, 2014 11:17 AM, "Robert Grant" wrote: > I'd really, really like it if we were to stop saying a UI element is > "disabled" and say "differently abled". > > Thanks > > > On Tuesday, 27 May 2014 14:14:43 UTC+2

Re: Master/slave trolling pull request accepted to django master branch

2014-08-13 Thread Stan
Ok Jerry Lewis, Everybody got the idea, now nove on. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to django-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post

Re: Master/slave trolling pull request accepted to django master branch

2014-08-12 Thread Robert Grant
I'd really, really like it if we were to stop saying a UI element is "disabled" and say "differently abled". Thanks On Tuesday, 27 May 2014 14:14:43 UTC+2, Meira wrote: > > As some of you may have notice, a hot discussion is happening in the > comments of this pull request: https://github.com/

Re: Master/slave trolling pull request accepted to django master branch

2014-05-27 Thread Hannu Krosing
On 05/27/2014 10:20 PM, Michael Manfre wrote: > It was very clearly stated in the other email thread about this, by > the no longer offensively titled BDFL :P, that the rename will not be > reverted. It's nearly impossible to get a change in to core when there > is a single core dev opposed to it a

Re: Master/slave trolling pull request accepted to django master branch

2014-05-27 Thread Michael Manfre
It was very clearly stated in the other email thread about this, by the no longer offensively titled BDFL :P, that the rename will not be reverted. It's nearly impossible to get a change in to core when there is a single core dev opposed to it and there have been many core devs who are -1 on revert

Re: Master/slave trolling pull request accepted to django master branch

2014-05-27 Thread bartek
On Tue, 27 May 2014 05:26:52 -0700 (PDT) Kai wrote: > What is so bad about removing terms like master/slave that are > related to or even originate from so much suffering and injustice and > replacing it with neutral terms? Primary/Replica is used in many DB > systems too. Bad thing is that the

Re: Master/slave trolling pull request accepted to django master branch

2014-05-27 Thread Daniele Procida
On Tue, May 27, 2014, Meira wrote: >Black people refer to themselves "a person of color", and then even shorten >it: PoC. Isn't that a ridiculous acronym? If I were black, I would be >deadly offended if someone dared to call me "a person of color"! You're not black though, and if some black pe

Re: Master/slave trolling pull request accepted to django master branch

2014-05-27 Thread Meira
I think a lot of recent changes in the language are harmful. Many common, short, clear, and concise words and phrases are being replaces with long, vague, sterile versions. Not only in the IT field, but everywhere. Black people refer to themselves "a person of color", and then even shorten it: P

Re: "Master/slave terminology" (was: Master/slave trolling pull request accepted to django master branch)

2014-05-27 Thread Andromeda Yelton
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 11:46 AM, Florian Apolloner wrote: > To be honest, looking at the PR the "many community members" probably > reduce to a number countable with all of my fingers. > Of the first 150 distinct commenters, 120 support the change (including everyone who is recognizably a person

Re: "Master/slave terminology" (was: Master/slave trolling pull request accepted to django master branch)

2014-05-27 Thread James Bennett
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Meira wrote: > It seems to be, there are enough reasonable people leaving comments like > this one: https://github.com/django/django/pull/2720#issuecomment-44296843 > We'll just get the databases to change their terminology before we change ours! Of course, the

Re: "Master/slave terminology" (was: Master/slave trolling pull request accepted to django master branch)

2014-05-27 Thread Meira
It seems to be, there are enough reasonable people leaving comments like this one: https://github.com/django/django/pull/2720#issuecomment-44296843 On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 10:47:02 PM UTC+7, Daniele Procida wrote: > > On Tue, May 27, 2014, Meira > wrote: > > >> This second commit was discussed

Re: "Master/slave terminology" (was: Master/slave trolling pull request accepted to django master branch)

2014-05-27 Thread Daniele Procida
On Tue, May 27, 2014, Meira wrote: >> This second commit was discussed in a Trac ticket and everyone (even you!) >> was welcome to give their opinion. >> > >That's all nice and good, but why is the discussion taking the course of >whether or not we're accepting the second commit? It is clearly

Re: "Master/slave terminology" (was: Master/slave trolling pull request accepted to django master branch)

2014-05-27 Thread Florian Apolloner
On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 5:38:23 PM UTC+2, Meira wrote: > > This second commit was discussed in a Trac ticket and everyone (even you!) >> was welcome to give their opinion. >> > > That's all nice and good, but why is the discussion taking the course of > whether or not we're accepting the seco

Re: "Master/slave terminology" (was: Master/slave trolling pull request accepted to django master branch)

2014-05-27 Thread Alex Gaynor
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 10:38 AM, Meira wrote: > This second commit was discussed in a Trac ticket and everyone (even you!) >> was welcome to give their opinion. >> > > That's all nice and good, but why is the discussion taking the course of > whether or not we're accepting the second commit? It

Re: "Master/slave terminology" (was: Master/slave trolling pull request accepted to django master branch)

2014-05-27 Thread Meira
> > This second commit was discussed in a Trac ticket and everyone (even you!) > was welcome to give their opinion. > That's all nice and good, but why is the discussion taking the course of whether or not we're accepting the second commit? It is clearly better than the first. The question is

Re: "Master/slave terminology" (was: Master/slave trolling pull request accepted to django master branch)

2014-05-27 Thread Aymeric Augustin
In the interest of giving the full story to those who're genuinely worried that core devs don't give a fuck about the community — community being defined as the people who discovered this change on django-updates, not on 4chan or Hacker News... > Le 27 mai 2014 à 16:24, Meira a écrit : > > I

Re: "Master/slave terminology" (was: Master/slave trolling pull request accepted to django master branch)

2014-05-27 Thread Florian Apolloner
On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 4:24:51 PM UTC+2, Meira wrote: > I appreciate your reply very much! And sure it's not wise to rename things > every time someone asks for it, even when it's a lot of people. But same > applies to the original renaming commit, doesnt it? > Yes and no, we trust our comm

Re: "Master/slave terminology" (was: Master/slave trolling pull request accepted to django master branch)

2014-05-27 Thread Meira
I appreciate your reply very much! And sure it's not wise to rename things every time someone asks for it, even when it's a lot of people. But same applies to the original renaming commit, doesnt it? I would suggest that leaving names the way they have been since a long time is the best option.

Re: "Master/slave terminology" (was: Master/slave trolling pull request accepted to django master branch)

2014-05-27 Thread Daniele Procida
On Tue, May 27, 2014, Meira wrote: >Sorry, I accidentally sent a private reply :) I'll try to repeat it here >for others. I have replied, privately, but I wanted to add publicly: >The community is trying to protect the django project from the attack of >people who seek no good for django. Ple

Re: "Master/slave terminology" (was: Master/slave trolling pull request accepted to django master branch)

2014-05-27 Thread Meira
Sorry, I accidentally sent a private reply :) I'll try to repeat it here for others. Those silly pictures are the community's emotional reply to an issue that they care about. I don't think calling the contributors "silly" is exactly politically correct, too, since we are on that level now :)

Re: Master/slave trolling pull request accepted to django master branch

2014-05-27 Thread Kai
What is so bad about removing terms like master/slave that are related to or even originate from so much suffering and injustice and replacing it with neutral terms? Primary/Replica is used in many DB systems too. On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 2:14:43 PM UTC+2, Meira wrote: > > As some of you may hav

"Master/slave terminology" (was: Master/slave trolling pull request accepted to django master branch)

2014-05-27 Thread Daniele Procida
On Tue, May 27, 2014, Meira wrote: >As some of you may have notice, a hot discussion is happening in the >comments of this pull request: https://github.com/django/django/pull/2692 If by "hot discussion" you mean silly pictures and noisy accusations... There is a discussion to be had about this

Re: Master/slave trolling pull request accepted to django master branch

2014-05-27 Thread alTus
It took 7 minutes and 23 seconds to merge this troll PR without any discussion and now Meira is suggested to wait 6 months? But what can happen? вторник, 27 мая 2014 г., 16:14:43 UTC+4 пользователь Meira написал: > > As some of you may have notice, a hot discussion is happening in the > comments

Master/slave trolling pull request accepted to django master branch

2014-05-27 Thread Meira
As some of you may have notice, a hot discussion is happening in the comments of this pull request: https://github.com/django/django/pull/2692 Essentially, this pull request suggests that all occurences of master/slave be replaced with leader/follower. While this is clearly insane, a less jaw-dr