Re: Consider releasing a .95 beta

2006-07-27 Thread Bill de hÓra
Tom Tobin wrote: > On 7/27/06, Joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Adrian Holovaty wrote: >>> There's no real reason, other than the fact that the core developers >>> all use (and are happy with) the Subversion/development versions of >>> Django, with which we've been enjoying the great changes to

Re: Consider releasing a .95 beta

2006-07-27 Thread Bill de hÓra
Jeremy Dunck wrote: > On 7/27/06, Kevin Menard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> People run svn update at >> different times and all that jazz. I know we've been burned once or >> twice by people running different versions of django. > > Two-phase email? "I'd like to svn up, report back when

Re: Consider releasing a .95 beta

2006-07-27 Thread Kevin Menard
On 7/27/06, Ian Holsman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > perfect is what 1.0 is for. I certainly hope this isn't the case. It'd kill me to see django get caught up with the mythical 1.0 that seems to plague so many OSS projects. -- Kevin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You

Re: Consider releasing a .95 beta

2006-07-27 Thread Ian Holsman
On 28/07/2006, at 7:56 AM, Tyson Tate wrote:On 7/27/06, Ian Holsman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I for one would like a 0.95 release. ...Earlier today:On 7/27/06, Adrian Holovaty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:... We're working on the .95 release as I typethis, though.Adrianyeah.. I saw that.but the

Re: Re: Consider releasing a .95 beta

2006-07-27 Thread Tyson Tate
On 7/27/06, Ian Holsman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I for one would like a 0.95 release. ... Earlier today: On 7/27/06, Adrian Holovaty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > We're working on the .95 release as I type > this, though. > > Adrian --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~

Re: Consider releasing a .95 beta

2006-07-27 Thread Ian Holsman
I for one would like a 0.95 release.why?I think 0.95 is stable enough *as is*. sure it's not perfect,  (thats what 0.96 is for ;-) but I would like people to stop using 0.91 ASAP.and personally I think trying to get a monthly release, or a release just before something major happens is a good

Re: Consider releasing a .95 beta

2006-07-27 Thread Matt Howell
Regardless of the merits of the issue, it certainly doesn't help things to get personal. If you want to influence the process, stay cool and keep the emotional attacks off the table. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to

Re: Consider releasing a .95 beta

2006-07-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jeremy Dunck wrote: > On 7/27/06, Matt the Destroyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does Django improve if everyone's out for lunch? > > I think that depends on whether we're all friends here. I certainly > think about Django over lunch often. GAYY!!! BTW Jocab good one banning

Re: Consider releasing a .95 beta

2006-07-27 Thread Jeremy Dunck
On 7/27/06, Matt the Destroyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does Django improve if everyone's out for lunch? I think that depends on whether we're all friends here. I certainly think about Django over lunch often. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message

Re: Consider releasing a .95 beta

2006-07-27 Thread Matt the Destroyer
Tyson Tate wrote: > > [...] If you can't handle using an in-development framework that's > improving by the hour [...] see it become the best web > application framework in the world > -Tyson Very ambitious words there, Tyson. While I can agreeably forsee Django eventually maturing into a

Re: Re: Consider releasing a .95 beta

2006-07-27 Thread Tyson Tate
On 7/27/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > When you talk all I hear is poop hitting a toilet. ... > astablished ... > use there nightly build it a production > enviroment? ... > last nights kernal build ... > If you have ever worked on a non-kiddy project (ie $$$) you will >

Re: Consider releasing a .95 beta

2006-07-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Todd O'Bryan wrote: > On Jul 27, 2006, at 3:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Tom Tobin wrote: > >> On 7/27/06, Joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> In line with other sentiments I've expressed here in the past: IMHO, > >> this means your *project manager* is addled, not Django's release

Re: Consider releasing a .95 beta

2006-07-27 Thread Kevin Menard
On 7/27/06, Todd O'Bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Read about agile development. You can release stable code without > freezing it. I guess it depends on the definition of "stable." I agree that you can have code that runs and runs well without freezing it. At some point though, you gotta

Re: Consider releasing a .95 beta

2006-07-27 Thread Matt the Destroyer
Todd O'Bryan wrote: > On Jul 27, 2006, at 3:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Tom Tobin wrote: > >> On 7/27/06, Joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> In line with other sentiments I've expressed here in the past: IMHO, > >> this means your *project manager* is addled, not Django's release

Re: Consider releasing a .95 beta

2006-07-27 Thread Todd O'Bryan
On Jul 27, 2006, at 3:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Tom Tobin wrote: >> On 7/27/06, Joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> In line with other sentiments I've expressed here in the past: IMHO, >> this means your *project manager* is addled, not Django's release >> process. If you can understand

Re: Consider releasing a .95 beta

2006-07-27 Thread Tom Tobin
On 7/27/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Tom Tobin wrote: > > On 7/27/06, Joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > In line with other sentiments I've expressed here in the past: IMHO, > > this means your *project manager* is addled, not Django's release > > process. If you can

Re: Consider releasing a .95 beta

2006-07-27 Thread Joe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Tom Tobin wrote: > > On 7/27/06, Joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > In line with other sentiments I've expressed here in the past: IMHO, > > this means your *project manager* is addled, not Django's release > > process. If you can understand that the development

Re: Consider releasing a .95 beta

2006-07-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tom Tobin wrote: > On 7/27/06, Joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In line with other sentiments I've expressed here in the past: IMHO, > this means your *project manager* is addled, not Django's release > process. If you can understand that the development version is stable > enough to use, but

Re: Consider releasing a .95 beta

2006-07-27 Thread Tom Tobin
On 7/27/06, Joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Tom Tobin wrote: > > In line with other sentiments I've expressed here in the past: IMHO, > > this means your *project manager* is addled, not Django's release > > process. If you can understand that the development version is stable > > enough to

Re: Consider releasing a .95 beta

2006-07-27 Thread Todd O'Bryan
On Jul 27, 2006, at 1:05 PM, Joe wrote: > Malcolm Tredinnick wrote: >> Release management is a little more faceted than that. You do >> understand >> that any Open Source project has multiple releases, right? Putting >> out >> periodic releases to act as checkpoints, regardless of whether it

Re: Consider releasing a .95 beta

2006-07-27 Thread Tom Tobin
On 7/27/06, Joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Adrian Holovaty wrote: > > > > There's no real reason, other than the fact that the core developers > > all use (and are happy with) the Subversion/development versions of > > Django, with which we've been enjoying the great changes to Django > >

Re: Consider releasing a .95 beta

2006-07-27 Thread Kevin Menard
On 7/27/06, Jeremy Dunck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Two-phase email? "I'd like to svn up, report back when ready." > > Or, if too large a team, cron'd switchtower/capistrano task? Heh, I'm not saying it's not doable. It is a pain in the neck though, and is alleviated by a point release. I

Re: Consider releasing a .95 beta

2006-07-27 Thread Jeremy Dunck
On 7/27/06, Kevin Menard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > People run svn update at > different times and all that jazz. I know we've been burned once or > twice by people running different versions of django. Two-phase email? "I'd like to svn up, report back when ready." Or, if too large a team,

Re: Consider releasing a .95 beta

2006-07-27 Thread Adrian Holovaty
On 7/27/06, Joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wonder, then, why .95 has been held off so long. Hey Joe, There's no real reason, other than the fact that the core developers all use (and are happy with) the Subversion/development versions of Django, with which we've been enjoying the great

Re: Consider releasing a .95 beta

2006-07-27 Thread Joe
Malcolm Tredinnick wrote: > Release management is a little more faceted than that. You do understand > that any Open Source project has multiple releases, right? Putting out > periodic releases to act as checkpoints, regardless of whether it is the > ultimate, be-all-and-end-all release has

Re: Re: Consider releasing a .95 beta

2006-07-27 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick
On Thu, 2006-07-27 at 08:36 -0700, Tyson Tate wrote: > It'd be nice if .95 would take care of at least *some* of the bugs > that have been piling up in Trac. I understand the few who have commit > access are insanely busy, but I just can't fathom a .95 release with > the current state of trunk.

Re: Re: Consider releasing a .95 beta

2006-07-27 Thread Tyson Tate
It'd be nice if .95 would take care of at least *some* of the bugs that have been piling up in Trac. I understand the few who have commit access are insanely busy, but I just can't fathom a .95 release with the current state of trunk. (Whatever happened to the bug-fix sprint?) It's a little

Re: Consider releasing a .95 beta

2006-07-27 Thread Matt the Destroyer
Joe wrote: > I saw this post, but I wasn't sure a consensus had been reached. I thought simonslaw summed it up pretty nicely. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. To post to

Re: Consider releasing a .95 beta

2006-07-27 Thread Joe
I saw this post, but I wasn't sure a consensus had been reached. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com To

Re: Consider releasing a .95 beta

2006-07-27 Thread Deryck Hodge
On 7/27/06, Joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How would the community around here feel about a beta/pre-release .95 > version? > Adrian mentioned doing one at OSCON. See this thread: http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/75c0a1d3703ab81/ Cheers, deryck --