Re: Trac workflow assistance (commiter feedback needed)

2010-04-30 Thread Luke Plant
On Friday 30 April 2010 19:22:33 Idan Gazit wrote: > FWIW, I spoke with Alex the other week about turning piano-man into > a more finished product. > > So long as core guarantees that they'll at least take a look at > whatever is made, I'm +1 on rolling our own, and am willing to > champion this p

Re: Trac workflow assistance (commiter feedback needed)

2010-04-30 Thread Alex Gaynor
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Gabriel Hurley wrote: > I'd also be interested in working on this, as long as I'm not alone on > it. Have you and/or Alex set up any kind of mailing list for it? Do > you plan to use git's issue tracker or something else? What's the > process plan for getting devel

Re: Trac workflow assistance (commiter feedback needed)

2010-04-30 Thread Gabriel Hurley
I'd also be interested in working on this, as long as I'm not alone on it. Have you and/or Alex set up any kind of mailing list for it? Do you plan to use git's issue tracker or something else? What's the process plan for getting development kick-started on it? - Gabriel On Apr 30, 11:22 am,

Re: Trac workflow assistance (commiter feedback needed)

2010-04-30 Thread Gabriel Hurley
On Apr 30, 8:02 am, Jeremy Dunck wrote: > I haven't heard one proposed.  I'll take a look at RedMine and/or > steal ideas from launchpad -- but writing a new tracker isn't the > problem I'm trying to solve. FWIW, I currently use (and administer) Redmine for my company. I'd say it's only a margi

Re: Trac workflow assistance (commiter feedback needed)

2010-04-30 Thread Idan Gazit
FWIW, I spoke with Alex the other week about turning piano-man into a more finished product. So long as core guarantees that they'll at least take a look at whatever is made, I'm +1 on rolling our own, and am willing to champion this project. I think having something we can easily shape to meet o

Re: Trac workflow assistance (commiter feedback needed)

2010-04-30 Thread Jeremy Dunck
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: ... >>> I'm not a huge fan of Trac - it's >>> got lots of quirks and bugs that annoy the bejezus out of me, >> ... >> Perhaps upgrading would get us some distance? > > Possibly. Was that you volunteering to become our Trac jockey? :-) >

Re: Trac workflow assistance (commiter feedback needed)

2010-04-30 Thread Alex Gaynor
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Jeremy Dunck wrote: > On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 1:27 AM, Stephen Wolff > wrote: >>> I recognize running tests w/ regressions pass would be useful, but >>> it's getting into CI-land -- once we have some CI infrastructure in >>> place, I'd be happy to use that. >>>

Re: Trac workflow assistance (commiter feedback needed)

2010-04-30 Thread Jeremy Dunck
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 5:37 PM, yml wrote: ... > While spending some more time looking at launchpad.net I stumbled upon > another very neat feature you can also sort the bug by heat [1]. Thanks for this -- I'll be reading it shortly. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to t

Re: Trac workflow assistance (commiter feedback needed)

2010-04-30 Thread Jeremy Dunck
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 1:27 AM, Stephen Wolff wrote: >> I recognize running tests w/ regressions pass would be useful, but >> it's getting into CI-land -- once we have some CI infrastructure in >> place, I'd be happy to use that. >> >> > > In case you missed it, there already is some CI infrastru

Re: Trac workflow assistance (commiter feedback needed)

2010-04-27 Thread rokclim...@gmail.com
The timing of this discussion is interesting, because I came to a similar conclusion last week and decided to start writing a drop-in replacement for Trac based on Django. Part of my desire was based on the fact that Trac has such poor support for other VCS and such spotty support for other databa

Re: Trac workflow assistance (commiter feedback needed)

2010-04-26 Thread yml
Just to make it clear I am not saying that Launchpad is "The Solution" to all the problems. I have decided to dig in its documentation and post the feature that I found interesting and I discover that launchpad has grown a some very useful features with regards to the issues we were discussing. On

Re: Trac workflow assistance (commiter feedback needed)

2010-04-26 Thread Reinout van Rees
On 04/25/2010 05:15 PM, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: However, the *huge* impediment that you have avoided mentioning is that moving to Launchpad would require moving Django to using Bazaar for version control. Moving to a DVCS has been proposed many times in the past, and rejected. The reasons for

Re: Trac workflow assistance (commiter feedback needed)

2010-04-25 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 4:48 AM, Gabriel Hurley wrote: > I've been dancing around this idea for a while. I know it's not a new > thought, and Alex Gaynor and Justin Lilly even started work on "piano > man" [1]... I'd be curious to know what the state of that project is > and if a few more devs wor

Re: Trac workflow assistance (commiter feedback needed)

2010-04-25 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 2:34 AM, yml wrote: > As you have noted I have avoided to the DVCS matter because I knew it > is a slippery slope and because it don't really matter. Launchpad > allows you to import branch from many of the popular VCS [1] cvs, svn, > git, hg.  The documentation mention tha

Re: Trac workflow assistance (commiter feedback needed)

2010-04-25 Thread yml
On Apr 25, 5:21 pm, Gabriel Hurley wrote: > I'm in a similar boat to Russell... LaunchPad's UI always seemed like > a complete disaster to me... > > However, in reading through LaunchPad's FAQ to give it a fair chance, > I saw a couple of other features that Trac doesn't have to add to the > lis

Re: Trac workflow assistance (commiter feedback needed)

2010-04-25 Thread Gabriel Hurley
I'm in a similar boat to Russell... LaunchPad's UI always seemed like a complete disaster to me... However, in reading through LaunchPad's FAQ to give it a fair chance, I saw a couple of other features that Trac doesn't have to add to the list: * Out-of-the-box OpenID support * "Bug Expiry" to

Re: Trac workflow assistance (commiter feedback needed)

2010-04-25 Thread Alex Gaynor
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 4:48 PM, Gabriel Hurley wrote: > I've been dancing around this idea for a while. I know it's not a new > thought, and Alex Gaynor and Justin Lilly even started work on "piano > man" [1]... I'd be curious to know what the state of that project is > and if a few more devs wor

Re: Trac workflow assistance (commiter feedback needed)

2010-04-25 Thread Gabriel Hurley
I've been dancing around this idea for a while. I know it's not a new thought, and Alex Gaynor and Justin Lilly even started work on "piano man" [1]... I'd be curious to know what the state of that project is and if a few more devs working on it might be able to bring it to a place where it'd be re

Re: Trac workflow assistance (commiter feedback needed)

2010-04-25 Thread yml
As you have noted I have avoided to the DVCS matter because I knew it is a slippery slope and because it don't really matter. Launchpad allows you to import branch from many of the popular VCS [1] cvs, svn, git, hg. The documentation mention that drupal is using this feature to import on a regular

Re: Trac workflow assistance (commiter feedback needed)

2010-04-25 Thread burc...@gmail.com
Hi Russell, Jacob, What do you think, is it good idea to write django-based bug tracker as a trac replacement? As we all know, Django would be a perfect fit for such project! Current Trac templates & layouts can be used for prototyping the project. On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Russell Keith-

Re: Trac workflow assistance (commiter feedback needed)

2010-04-25 Thread Dennis Kaarsemaker
On zo, 2010-04-25 at 23:15 +0800, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > However, the *huge* impediment that you have avoided mentioning is > that moving to Launchpad would require moving Django to using Bazaar > for version control. You don't *have* to use the bzr/code bits of launchpad to use the bugtra

Re: Trac workflow assistance (commiter feedback needed)

2010-04-25 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 10:54 PM, yml wrote: > Hello, > > On Apr 23, 12:32 pm, Russell Keith-Magee > wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Jeremy Dunck wrote: >> > Commiters and triagers, >> >  I've gone through the contributing doc and tried to identify places >> > that tickets might get s

Re: Trac workflow assistance (commiter feedback needed)

2010-04-25 Thread yml
Hello, On Apr 23, 12:32 pm, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Jeremy Dunck wrote: > > Commiters and triagers, > >  I've gone through the contributing doc and tried to identify places > > that tickets might get stuck (or other places that automation might > > smooth th

Re: Trac workflow assistance (commiter feedback needed)

2010-04-24 Thread Stephen Wolff
5-10: The most useful of the lot for me personally. An automated process that applies patches and runs tests would be nice; if it can autocheck the appropriate flags ("patch needs improvement", "needs tests" etc) that would be even better. I recognize running tests w/ regressions pass wou

Re: Trac workflow assistance (commiter feedback needed)

2010-04-23 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 2:34 AM, Jeremy Dunck wrote: > On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Russell Keith-Magee > wrote: > Frequent contributors are not the only audience for this tool -- I'm > trying to help answer the question -- where is help most needed right > now? > > With that perspective, d

Re: Trac workflow assistance (commiter feedback needed)

2010-04-23 Thread Jacob Kaplan-Moss
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: >> Can a DB dump be shared? > > I don't have any problem sharing the raw ticket data. However, I'm not > sure if there's anything else in the database (like emails and > passwords/hashes) that we would want to strip out before sharing. >

Re: Trac workflow assistance (commiter feedback needed)

2010-04-23 Thread Jeremy Dunck
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: ... > 2: Would be useful as a work list for people looking for. It would > also be useful if tickets could be auto-disowned; i.e., if there's no > activity from the owner after a month, post a comment asking for a > status update; if no

Re: Trac workflow assistance (commiter feedback needed)

2010-04-23 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Jeremy Dunck wrote: > Commiters and triagers, >  I've gone through the contributing doc and tried to identify places > that tickets might get stuck (or other places that automation might > smooth the process). >  If you could take a few minutes to give feedback on

Re: Trac workflow assistance (commiter feedback needed)

2010-04-23 Thread burc...@gmail.com
Hi Jeremy, And what about information on the page if the patch commits cleanly, and if all tests pass after applying patch? Not just sending email to the patch author, but making it visible to everyone. On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Jeremy Dunck wrote: > Commiters and triagers, >  I've gone

Trac workflow assistance (commiter feedback needed)

2010-04-23 Thread Jeremy Dunck
Commiters and triagers, I've gone through the contributing doc and tried to identify places that tickets might get stuck (or other places that automation might smooth the process). If you could take a few minutes to give feedback on the list, hopefully prioritizing in your named column with +/-