t; {{{
> blog_entry.timestamp|date:"b"
> }}}
>
> in may, it returns "Mai", wich is german for may.
>
> but i am using the generic views for my blog archive, and monthly
> based i'm doing things like:
>
> {{{
> month=previous_month|date:"b"|l
hi there,
in my settings.py there is the language specified as "de_de", wich
works well with things like:
{{{
blog_entry.timestamp|date:"b"
}}}
in may, it returns "Mai", wich is german for may.
but i am using the generic views for my blog archive, and month
?
>
> Also, is there a workaround for using multiple date based generic
> views and having them with different models? Say for a news one and
> then for an events one?
You probably won't get the reverse lookup to work on a generic view
without giving it a specific name in the URLc
Hey all,
I have this code:
http://dpaste.com/76671/
When I go to the URL it doesn't display the page, but it also doesn't
display and errors with the URL. What is wrong with the permalink
instance?
Also, is there a workaround for using multiple date based generic
views and having
ive information (by forgetting a filter).
I'd also like to have it as DRY as possible, so developers
don't have to remember to put redaction in everywhere, even if
it's just one per URL entry.
It can't readily go in the URLs.py because it needs the request
info to know whe
Hi Tim,
On Mon, Sep 01, 2008 at 10:04:36AM -0500, Tim Chase wrote:
> My subclassed RequestContext object plans to intercept the
> Context.__getitem__ call (wherein redaction will hopefully happen
> in my custom subclass), and thus needs to be the actual object,
> not just a dict-like object me
>> I've been trying to figure out how to use a custom subclased
>> RequestContext[1] object in my generic views. Looking at the
>> code of django/views/generic/*.py it looks like this class is
>> hard-coded in each of the views.
>>
>> Ideally, I'd
Hi Tim,
> I've been trying to figure out how to use a custom subclased
> RequestContext[1] object in my generic views. Looking at the
> code of django/views/generic/*.py it looks like this class is
> hard-coded in each of the views.
>
>
> Ideally, I'd be able to s
I've been trying to figure out how to use a custom subclased
RequestContext[1] object in my generic views. Looking at the
code of django/views/generic/*.py it looks like this class is
hard-coded in each of the views.
Ideally, I'd be able to set something in the settings.py to
wnload the original PDF.
>
> -I
>
> On Aug 25, 5:50 pm, Tim Chase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Here is a summary of all the tutorials and docs that I have
>> > read on urlpatterns and generic views. It is a 2 page,
>> > concise, example code based cheat
if you guys want the source here it is:
although if you just had emailed me to my mail account i might have
read this :p
i used pdf because it's sexy and colorful as opposed to the
following.
from django.conf.urls.defaults import *
urlpatterns = patterns('',
# (regular exp, function, op
I have printed this from scribd into a PDF and use it as such, no need
for login.
Works somewhat, cannot select the text from it (could have run some
text recognition on it), but expect to find the original code or pdf
somewhere soon (Google code maybe).
maeck
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Is is possible with Create/update/delete generic views to get the user
that's logged in's ID and use? I have a field with a FK for user, I'd
really just like to use the generic views for this, since it's a
simple thrown together internal site, instead of writing out other
Tim Chase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-08-25 08:43]:
>
>> It's not terribly obvious from the scribd layout, but at the
>> top (above the document) there's a "download" link or similar,
>> and there you can download the original PDF.
>
>...which expects that I create login...
Copy & paste doesn't wor
> It's not terribly obvious from the scribd layout, but at the
> top (above the document) there's a "download" link or similar,
> and there you can download the original PDF.
...which expects that I create login...
Given that the source is likely just a PDF, posting a link to it
somewhere is a
ll the tutorials and docs that I have
> > read on urlpatterns and generic views. It is a 2 page,
> > concise, example code based cheat sheet.
>
> >http://www.scribd.com/doc/4975790/urlpatterns-for-django-cheatsheet
>
> Nifty, but scribd is annoying as heck. Printing from
> Here is a summary of all the tutorials and docs that I have
> read on urlpatterns and generic views. It is a 2 page,
> concise, example code based cheat sheet.
>
> http://www.scribd.com/doc/4975790/urlpatterns-for-django-cheatsheet
Nifty, but scribd is annoying as heck. Print
.py in the reverse order:
(r'^admin/doc/', include('django.contrib.admindocs.urls')),
(r'^admin/(.*)', admin.site.root),
Now I can have a public and admin interface, whether or not I use a
separate admin.py file. Sorry to have bothered you. It seems generic
vi
Useful! Thank you. :)
-I
On Aug 23, 3:11 pm, DavidY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here is a summary of all the tutorials and docs that I have read on
> urlpatterns and generic views. It is a 2 page, concise, example code
> based cheat sheet.
>
> http://www.scribd.com/doc/49
Here is a summary of all the tutorials and docs that I have read on
urlpatterns and generic views. It is a 2 page, concise, example code
based cheat sheet.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/4975790/urlpatterns-for-django-cheatsheet
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PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Aug 22, 4:18 pm, Anurag Goel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> I was able to
> implement the generic views change with yesterday's
> > trunk version successfully. I did not have to do anything special (no
> > separate admin.py, no get_absolute_url(
)
--end mysite/urls.py--
Again, no need for any additional changes.
On Aug 22, 1:38 am, Rodney Topor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Aug 22, 4:18 pm, Anurag Goel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> I was able to
> implement the generic views change with yesterday's
>
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 4:38 AM, Rodney Topor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Aug 22, 4:18 pm, Anurag Goel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I was able to implement the generic views change with yesterday's
> > trunk version successfully. I did not have to d
On Aug 22, 4:18 pm, Anurag Goel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was able to implement the generic views change with yesterday's
> trunk version successfully. I did not have to do anything special (no
> separate admin.py, no get_absolute_url())
>
> I did however, do somet
I was able to implement the generic views change with yesterday's
trunk version successfully. I did not have to do anything special (no
separate admin.py, no get_absolute_url())
I did however, do something that the tutorial did not ask to do - i.e.
delete all references to the admin in m
I'm having trouble modifying the tutorial example to use generic
views. (My implementation without generic views works fine.) I've
registered the class Poll with admin in a separate admin.py module as
described in ticket 8181. I've provided names for all url patterns in
a
Ivan Sagalaev wrote:
> fabio natali wrote:
> > For the sake of clarity, my django project is named arteak, the models
> > we are using belong to an app called "management".
>
> Ah! Then there should of course be get_model('management',
> kwargs.pop('model')). I thought 'arteak' was the name of t
fabio natali wrote:
> For the sake of clarity, my django project is named arteak, the models
> we are using belong to an app called "management".
Ah! Then there should of course be get_model('management',
kwargs.pop('model')). I thought 'arteak' was the name of the app. This
is why it returns N
Dear Ivan, it sounds like we are closer to the solution, still not got
it though.
Ivan Sagalaev wrote:
[...]
> > http://dpaste.com/72639/
>
> Oy! I've found it :-). It has nothing to do with model_view decorator or
> anything that we're talking here about. It's in urls.py, on line 30:
>
>
fabio natali wrote:
> That's right! So here comes my current urls.py:
>
> http://dpaste.com/72638/
>
> then the traceback I get at http://localhost:8000/:
>
> http://dpaste.com/72639/
Oy! I've found it :-). It has nothing to do with model_view decorator or
anything that we're talking here abo
Thanks for the help Daniel.
I think I'm making some progress now :-)
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Hi Ivan!
Ivan Sagalaev wrote:
[...]
> fabio natali wrote:
> > I added the line
> >
> > import arteak.management.models
>
> It's not the same thing :-). This line won't load the name "models" into
> your local environment. If you want import from some path this should be:
>
> from a
py could be easier. I'd probably better to
> write a short bash script to generate a urls.py file from my models.py
> with all the proper generic views entries for each model.
Well... The choice is yours. However I'd suggest to spend some time
ct is not callable
when accessing http://localhost:8000/ (that is the main page).
Here comes my current urls.py: http://dpaste.com/72623/
Anyway I don't want to steal your time any longer. I really hoped
saving some lines in urls.py could be easier. I'd probably better to
write a short b
fabio natali wrote:
> This is the urls.py I created: http://dpaste.com/72138/
> It doesn't work though: I get a
> KeyError at /manufacturer
> u'manufacturer'
> when accessing http://localhost:8000/manufacturer
> (manufacturer being one of my model)
KeyError says that it can't find a key 'manufact
On Aug 19, 11:59 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Daniel,
>
> I am working my way
> throughhttp://www.djangoproject.com/documentation/db-api/#related-objects
> at the moment trying to get a better grasp on how django handles SQL
> relationships.
>
> The way I got the above cod
Found the solution to:
{% for taskUpdate in object.taskUpdate_set.all %}
{{ taskUpdate.comment }}
{% endfor %}
Djando lowercases model names when used in templates. But still I had
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Daniel,
I am working my way through
http://www.djangoproject.com/documentation/db-api/#related-objects
at the moment trying to get a better grasp on how django handles SQL
relationships.
The way I got the above code to work was (following your suggestion):
{% for task in object.task_set.all %}
On Aug 19, 9:25 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Daniel,
>
> Thank you for your reply.
>
> Following your advice I tried the following:
>
> task is the model that relates to project.
>
>
> {% for task in project.task.all %}
> {{ task.title }}
> {% endfor %}
>
>
> It doesn't s
My mistake, I must have made a typo as it is now working perfectly.
Thanks Daniel!
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Daniel,
Thank you for your reply.
Following your advice I tried the following:
task is the model that relates to project.
{% for task in project.task.all %}
{{ task.title }}
{% endfor %}
It doesn't show anything so I think I'm confusing my models. Am I
missing something obvious ? I am only
On Aug 19, 7:08 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My urls.py looks like this:
>
> project_info = {
> "queryset" : project.objects.all(),
>
> }
>
> (r'^project/(?P[-\w]+)/',
> login_required(list_detail.object_detail), dict(project_info,
> slug_field='slug')),
>
> Projects ha
My urls.py looks like this:
project_info = {
"queryset" : project.objects.all(),
}
(r'^project/(?P[-\w]+)/',
login_required(list_detail.object_detail), dict(project_info,
slug_field='slug')),
Projects have a one to many relationship with tasks. The objective of
my using object_detail is to
Dear Ivan, your help is priceless, thanks!
Ivan Sagalaev wrote:
[...]
> In models.py you can get rid of repeating "Manufacturer" two extra times
> by doing:
>
> class Manufacturer(models.Model):
> name = models.CharField(max_length=30)
> address = models.CharField(max_len
On Jul 10, 5:41 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> what's the best way with django to remember a page and redirect to
> that page.
>
> so if you're atwww.mysite.com/entries/2008/jul/04/this-is-my-entry
> and you click a link that stores something in a different db field
> that once it goes through tha
what's the best way with django to remember a page and redirect to
that page.
so if you're at www.mysite.com/entries/2008/jul/04/this-is-my-entry
and you click a link that stores something in a different db field
that once it goes through that view and enters the info it redirects
you to the url
thanks!
On Jul 7, 9:32 am, Malcolm Tredinnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 06:28 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > i found a post from a while back that basically said if you're using
> > the same generic view type with two different urls you couldn't use
> > the permalink
On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 06:28 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> i found a post from a while back that basically said if you're using
> the same generic view type with two different urls you couldn't use
> the permalink decorator, is that still the case with the SVN release?
>
> we have our normal
i found a post from a while back that basically said if you're using
the same generic view type with two different urls you couldn't use
the permalink decorator, is that still the case with the SVN release?
we have our normal news table for the school's news, but we also have
students blogging an
On Jul 6, 3:53 pm, Christopher Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> class IssuerManaager(models.Manager):
>
> def with_aggs(self):
> from django.db import connection
> cursor=connection.cursor()
> cursor.execute("""
> select i.id,max(i.name), m.dateix AS
On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 5:53 PM, Christopher Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Guys
> I'm building a django based system for a company that monitors the mutuals
> funds industry
> We have Mutual Funds Companies (Issuer) who have one or more funds (Fund)
> and every month the funds submit a vo
Hi Guys
I'm building a django based system for a company that monitors the
mutuals funds industry
We have Mutual Funds Companies (Issuer) who have one or more funds
(Fund) and every month the funds submit a volume report
Here is a simplified version
class Issuer(models
:06 am, pength <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As Generic Views are using RequestContext by default, in most cases
> it's quite good. But I have some special generic views, which will
> populate the result via Ajax, so, to make it more effecient, I don't
> want the views to us
As Generic Views are using RequestContext by default, in most cases
it's quite good. But I have some special generic views, which will
populate the result via Ajax, so, to make it more effecient, I don't
want the views to use RequestContext. but how to "disable"
RequestCont
Hi all!
As I can see in the docs,
django.views.generic.create_update.delete_object needs a
post_delete_redirect parameter.
Isn't it possible to redirect to the referrer, if the parameter is not
given? It would make sense IMHO.
The other thing, that annoys me, that I cannot easily check
permissi
No idea ?
Can't I use generic view in this case ? :-/
On 18 avr, 00:11, picky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to usegenericview in my app and I have some problems with
> objects related to the logged user.
>
> Here is a simplified version of my models :
>
> class Animal(models.
Hi,
I'm trying to use generic view in my app and I have some problems with
objects related to the logged user.
Here is a simplified version of my models :
class Animal(models.Model):
owner = models.ForeignKey(User)
gender = models.CharField(max_length=1, choices=GENDERS)
mother = mo
Hi there,
I've been able to cache some views individually using the cache_page
decorator, for example:
@cache_page(60 * 15)
def frontpage(request):
blabla...
But now I'd like to cahe some generic views that I'm using. Here are
the url patterns:
urlpatt
o and I'm looking how to use generic views.
>
> I see there is a generic view to update an object. I use it perfectly.
> Now, I would like to know if it is possible to use it to update only
> some field of an object without display an HTML field for each model
> field. Actually
Hi,
I'm new to django and I'm looking how to use generic views.
I see there is a generic view to update an object. I use it perfectly.
Now, I would like to know if it is possible to use it to update only
some field of an object without display an HTML field for each model
field. A
http://www.djangoproject.com/documentation/authentication/#authentication-in-web-requests
On 4/7/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I 'm developing a web application for multi-user. Because of power of
> admin interface and generic views
Hi,
I 'm developing a web application for multi-user. Because of power of
admin interface and generic views, I 'd like to use them as much as
possible. For multiple user application, specific views seem to be
need, especially permission
checking.
Are there any example application
When you will read Michael's links on documentation you can use
generic views on newforms:
http://217.196.165.10/create_update.txt
They have create and update preview support also, just use
preview=True option. And object_delete can use id's like
'1/2/3/4/5/10/128' to us
They are two very different animals really.
Generic views work as a way to cut code from your views code (the code
that creates the httpresponse, between the url handling and the
template rendering). Newforms is the way that Django creates and
handles forms. You will generally need to use a new
Hello, what is the difference (advantage) to use generic views or newforms
Victor
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Thanks for pointing that out. I just browsed to the object_list()
source, and it's nice to see a lot of the pagination stuffs abstracted
out, it indeed helped me to appreciate it more. :)
On Mar 28, 4:50 pm, "James Bennett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 6:40 PM, bob <[EMAI
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 6:40 PM, bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> in some examples that require extra work, we have to define a wrapper
> function. What's confusing me is how is this different from just
> defining regular views? I can't quite notice much reduction in code,
> nor improvements
Hi,
I'm a newbie to Django. I've just read the reference doc and Django
Book chapter on generic view, but I'm still a bit confused as to when
to justify the use of generic views. This is just out of curiosity,
as I'm sure there are aspects I've overlooked. My unde
el <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I guess I didn't explain myself well enough.
>
> 90% of the views on my site don't need anything special being passed
> to a wrapper view function or anything. In my "info_dict" I typically
> define only the items that s
I guess I didn't explain myself well enough.
90% of the views on my site don't need anything special being passed
to a wrapper view function or anything. In my "info_dict" I typically
define only the items that stretch across the generic views of the
entire model, ty
This should help:
http://www.b-list.org/weblog/2006/nov/16/django-tips-get-most-out-generic-views/
Say you've got this in "yourproj.yourapp.views" (assuming there's a
ForeignKey on Thing2):
from django.views.generic import date_based
from yourproj.yourapp.model
I was just messing around with my sites urlconf to keep it organized
and manage clean things up a bit. I make use of generic views quite a
bit and they really save me a lot of time. One of the things that I
noticed however as I was trying to combine a lot of "info_dicts" was
that t
want to display fields form a related object. I coded this
into my generic templates at first, with various custom filters like lookup,
isin, stringsub, etc., but I now think that's template abuse :)
I do wonder what newforms generic views and templates will bring, but I
haven't stayed up on t
Just to follow up for the archives.
What I was after is a getattr filter for the templates. Searching
djangosnippets.org has found a couple. This one seems to do what I need:
http://www.djangosnippets.org/snippets/411/
Regards
Darryl
Darryl Ross wrote:
Hey All,
I'm using the ge
Hey All,
I'm using the generic views and trying to build a HTML table where both
the rows and columns are generated dynamically. Simplified example follows.
I am having a problem though in that I can't work out if it is possible
to reference an attribute of a model using a templat
On Wed, 2008-02-13 at 10:35 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Is there a way to set the "size" attribute of FloatFields in Generic
> Views? Currently they're pretty big, and it seems like max_digits was
> deprecated in FloatFields with the arrival of DecimalFields.
You&#
Is there a way to set the "size" attribute of FloatFields in Generic
Views? Currently they're pretty big, and it seems like max_digits was
deprecated in FloatFields with the arrival of DecimalFields.
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>
> > > > You must specify details in pattern
> > > > definitianhttp://www.djangoproject.com/documentation/generic_views/
>
> > > > On 14 янв, 20:08, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
to a dictionary for the generic view
> > > > to use but I keep getting an error that the variable is not defined.
> > > > Its obvious that the variable is not defined yet but is there a way
> > > > that I can make this work? Here is an example that I have. Worst case
the generic view
> > > to use but I keep getting an error that the variable is not defined.
> > > Its obvious that the variable is not defined yet but is there a way
> > > that I can make this work? Here is an example that I have. Worst case
> > > scenario is th
use but I keep getting an error that the variable is not defined.
> > > Its obvious that the variable is not defined yet but is there a way
> > > that I can make this work? Here is an example that I have. Worst case
> > > scenario is that I create my own view whic
an make this work? Here is an example that I have. Worst case
> > scenario is that I create my own view which I already have but I like
> > to use what is already provided. Anyone have a work around to my
> > generic views problem?
>
> > Here is the code:http://dpaste.c
have but I like
> to use what is already provided. Anyone have a work around to my
> generic views problem?
>
> Here is the code:http://dpaste.com/31029/
>
> Thanks ahead of time.
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scenario is that I create my own view which I already have but I like
to use what is already provided. Anyone have a work around to my
generic views problem?
Here is the code:
http://dpaste.com/31029/
Thanks ahead of time
On Jan 8, 11:29 pm, "Guilherme M. Gondim (semente)"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In generic views, my queryset is cached and I need restart my
> application for get new itens. It is a bug? With default objects
> manager, I don't have this problem.
Hi, I found the pr
info_dict = {
'queryset': Entry.published_on_site.all(),
}
In generic views, my queryset is cached and I need restart my
application for get new itens. It is a bug? With default objects
manager, I don't have this problem.
Thanks,
semente
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that will filter queryset and then pass it to generic view.
On 9 янв, 01:19, "Shishir Ramam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'd like to pass a parameter from a url to a query set of a generic view.
>
> Something like the following.
I'd like to pass a parameter from a url to a query set of a generic view.
Something like the following. I'm not sure if this is possible, but would
appreciate any tips
on how this can be accomplished.
thanks,
-shishir
my_info_dict = {
'queryset': my_model.objects.filter(field_name=field_value
I believe an override with css is the best option here. size=30 is
probably the standard for a form field representing CharField. You could
open a ticket with a feature request to change the default behavior.
Cheers!
Jeff Anderson
Steve Bergman wrote:
> I have a model with several fields, one of
I have a model with several fields, one of which is defined like this:
mi = CharField(max_length=1, blank=True)
When I use it in a generic create_update form, it sets the size=30 and
maxlength=1. This seems odd to me. I can override it with CSS. But
why does it make the field so large in the
Sorry for the spam, looks like I can just grab the messages via
{{request.messages}} from within the templates.
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I know this has been asked a few times and the answer seems to be that
this is already included in generic views by default, but it's just
not showing anything in my {{messages}} variable on all of my generic
views. If i send messages and go to a regular page that's ren
Hello,
I'm fairly certain this is a really easy thing I'm just not
understanding. I have some generic views that I want to pass a
RequestContext(request) object, but I'm not exactly sure how to do so.
I've been passing a RequestContext to all of my other pages using
render_
Up, unless I need to move it to django-dev list ?
On 20 nov, 14:30, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> After reading and viewing the screencast on syndication framework [1],
> I let a comment on the site where the "obj" comes from ?
>
> Michael points me to the right url
hi, michael
thanks for the help.. i've tried this but it still doesn't work. i'm
doing something wrong, but i don't know what. if i remove save(),
object still gets created, just without slug. my question here is:
does slug field needs to have blank=True? when that is set, object
gets created, wi
Hi Martin,
On Nov 22, 7:59 am, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i wrote this at the end of my model (for which, slug must be created
> after user creates it):
>
> def save(self):
> if not self.id:
> self.slug = title.slugify()
> super(Kom
btw, after this change, object gets created, but the slug field is
empty.. so i can't view the object, because of
(r'^(?P\d{4})/(?P[a-z]{3})/(?P\w{1,2})/(?
P[-\w]+)/$',object_detail, dict(komentar_date_dict,
slug_field='slug'))
thanks, martin
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Thanks a lot, guys!
i'm pretty new to django and i really didn't want to use newforms in
my app. but RajeshD's idea is pretty cool. it just seems that i don't
know how to use slugify().. if you have just a little more time,
please help me for a minute:
i wrote this at the end of my model (for w
Hi Martin,
Looking at your url conf above, I'm thinking that you're not currently
using a form for your templates? I'd create a form (newform) for your
model and then use this to ensure that entry of the slug field is not
required [1] by the user when creating a post, and then update your
form's
> that work ok, when a user want to create an entry it opens
> komentar_form.html and it's displayed right. but when user clicks
> submit, it always returns a error for slug field. since user doesn't
> write slug field (should be prepopulated, right?),
No. That only happens in the admin and even
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