Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC alignment conflicts with RFC 5322 on the use of the From and Sender header fields

2020-06-04 Thread Dotzero
On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 12:40 AM Jim Fenton wrote: > On 6/2/20 10:35 AM, Dotzero wrote: > > > As part of the original DMARC team, the goal was to make clear whether the > email was authorized by the domain being used, hence the reliance on SPF > and DKIM. These are clearly under the domain owner/a

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC alignment conflicts with RFC 5322 on the use of the From and Sender header fields

2020-06-04 Thread Jim Fenton
On 6/2/20 10:35 AM, Dotzero wrote: > > As part of the original DMARC team, the goal was to make clear whether > the email was authorized by the domain being used, hence the reliance > on SPF and DKIM. These are clearly under the domain > owner/administrator's control to the extent they choose to ex

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Reminder - DMARC Interim 11 June 2020

2020-06-04 Thread Tim Wicinski
We are also looking for someone to take minutes and someone to assist monitoring the Jabber room For minutes, we'll try to use the Etherpad (link in the Agenda) but minute taker is not bound by that. Thanks tim On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 8:32 PM Tim Wicinski wrote: > > All > > Reminder that the DM

[dmarc-ietf] Reminder - DMARC Interim 11 June 2020

2020-06-04 Thread Tim Wicinski
BEGIN:VCALENDAR VERSION:2.0 METHOD:PUBLISH PRODID:-//IETF//datatracker.ietf.org ical agenda//EN BEGIN:VEVENT UID:ietf-interim-2020-dmarc-01-12834-dmarc SUMMARY:dmarc - Domain-based Message Authentication, Reporting & Conformance LOCATION:None STATUS:CONFIRMED CLASS:PUBLIC DTSTART;TZID="UTC":2020061

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC alignment conflicts with RFC 5322 on the use of the From and Sender header fields

2020-06-04 Thread John Levine
In article <652580c1-5f8b-4d11-af25-d968b277c...@www.fastmail.com>, Stan Kalisch wrote: >> That depends on who creates the Author: field. I'd imagine it can be created >> on rewriting From:. If it exists already at that time, one can still check >> (by >> ARC?) if it was signed, and, in case,

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC alignment conflicts with RFC 5322 on the use of the From and Sender header fields

2020-06-04 Thread Stan Kalisch
On Wed, Jun 3, 2020, at 2:30 PM, Alessandro Vesely wrote: > On Wed 03/Jun/2020 19:27:52 +0200 Dave Crocker wrote: > > On 6/3/2020 10:20 AM, Alessandro Vesely wrote: > >> On Wed 03/Jun/2020 18:43:16 +0200 Dave Crocker wrote: > >>> On 6/3/2020 9:38 AM, Alessandro Vesely wrote: > MUAs should be d

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC alignment conflicts with RFC 5322 on the use of the From and Sender header fields D

2020-06-04 Thread Douglas E. Foster
MAILING LISTS. The mailing list problem can be stated as follows: Domain B wants to operate a mailing list.The list owner will accept messages from domain A, alter them, then re-transmit the altered message to member C.List owner B wants the mail filter for member C to guarantee that his list m