Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC-Compliant Mailing Lists

2021-10-06 Thread Scott Kitterman
On October 6, 2021 11:37:26 PM UTC, John Levine wrote: >It appears that Alessandro Vesely said: >>Doug's emphasis on aliases tends to give that impression. Otherwise it can >>finally be a much needed attempt at formalizing the old, known From: >>rewriting. > >To point out what I would thin

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC-Compliant Mailing Lists

2021-10-06 Thread Douglas Foster
"Bad idea" is a subjective term, and irrelevant. The purpose of technical standards is not to get somebody elected, it is to define solutions to problems. The critical question is whether a proposal provides the best available solution to a problem. I wonder if the mailing list community is actu

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC-Compliant Mailing Lists

2021-10-06 Thread John Levine
It appears that Alessandro Vesely said: >Doug's emphasis on aliases tends to give that impression. Otherwise it can >finally be a much needed attempt at formalizing the old, known From: rewriting. To point out what I would think is obvious, formalizing a bad idea doesn't make it any less bad a

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC-Compliant Mailing Lists

2021-10-06 Thread Douglas Foster
We are laying out options, not specifying a MUST, So there is room for multiple approaches. The situation has been stuck because there is no good way to identify an innocuous edit from a harmless one. Your proposal stimulated my thinking, so let me try to build on yours and come back to mine l

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC-Compliant Mailing Lists

2021-10-06 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Tue 05/Oct/2021 16:17:28 +0200 Baptiste Carvello wrote: another season, another "From rewriting" proposal. Doug's emphasis on aliases tends to give that impression. Otherwise it can finally be a much needed attempt at formalizing the old, known From: rewriting. A) The From field

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC-Compliant Mailing Lists

2021-10-06 Thread Baptiste Carvello
Hi, I'll just make a few quick points here, as my message from yesterday was long enough :-) Le 06/10/2021 à 00:30, Douglas Foster a écrit : > > We clearly disagree about whether mailing list SHOULD be a closed > group. Indeed we do, but ultimately it doesn't matter that much. The relevant que